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Who you got after Fultz?
Lonzo Ball
75%
 75%  [ 315 ]
Josh Jackson
15%
 15%  [ 64 ]
Jayson Tatum
1%
 1%  [ 8 ]
De'Aaron Fox
4%
 4%  [ 20 ]
Malik Monk
1%
 1%  [ 5 ]
Jonathan Isaac
0%
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 8:03 am    Post subject:

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did you notice the hitch becoming less noticeable in January? Think it could be a good sign that he modified shot while having success, and I do not think it will take a major overhaul to pull it back and up.


^ I actually didn't see the hitch all that much, so I assume it was largely fixed:
(the hitch I'm referring to is in this first shot)


But in the tourney, his release (which is a different issue) was the same as what I described above, with the low angle. It's not going to prevent him from being a threat from deep in the league, but I would bet that it's responsible for his streaky-ness and rushed contested spot ups.
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If you think Magic is seriously considering anyone other than Lonzo...here's a quote from today's interview.

“As long as it doesn’t bother him(Lonzo), it’s not going to bother the Lakers organization as long as Lonzo performs on the basketball court.”

That doesn't sound like there are 3 candidates for the #2 spot or that he's even considering trading the pick. But what do I know?

I will say I am so impressed by the stamina of the guys in the ABB camp...#AnyoneButBall


If he isn't seriously considering others then he should be fired. He hasn't even worked out/interviewed any of the top players.



Some of these posters seem like bigger fans of Lonzo than they are of the Lakers.

I just want the Lakers to end up with the best player- whoever that is.

I don't care where he grew up or where he went to college for a year.


Bully for you...

Glad you make so many assumptions about me.

How about this...

Ask me a question and create a conversation.
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 8:12 am    Post subject:

The only thing I worry about is that the FO would draft one specific player over another because they think they can get paul george.

Even if they can get paul george, they should draft BPA.

Now who BPA is I dont know. Whether this worrying makes any sense or not I dont know. The FO is new and we dont know their thought process.
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 8:15 am    Post subject:

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saetarubia wrote:
Andre2K wrote:
GoldenThroat wrote:
Just had a great Lakers-centric interview with Mike Schmitz. The pod should be up at some point tonight.


Looking forward to it


Listening to it.

https://soundcloud.com/user-456873398


Sheesh Mike Schmitz made me not want JJ at all lol


Yeah Nate Duncan and Danny Leroux crapped on him as well. Not saying he's not talented but I just think Lonzo and Ingram have higher ceilings than him. I mean imagine them at 20 going against college competition...BBQ chicken lol. Also I'd rather not deal with the off court issues, major red flag IMO...

Anyways that was a great listen and I appreciate Mike's insights on Brandon Ingram, props to coach Pete and Darius for the great work they do on the podcast.
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Andre2K wrote:
Hydro21 wrote:
saetarubia wrote:
Andre2K wrote:
GoldenThroat wrote:
Just had a great Lakers-centric interview with Mike Schmitz. The pod should be up at some point tonight.


Looking forward to it


Listening to it.

https://soundcloud.com/user-456873398


Sheesh Mike Schmitz made me not want JJ at all lol


Yeah Nate Duncan and Danny Leroux crapped on him as well. Not saying he's not talented but I just think Lonzo and Ingram have higher ceilings than him. I mean imagine them at 20 going against college competition...BBQ chicken lol. Also I'd rather not deal with the off court issues, major red flag IMO...

Anyways that was a great listen and I appreciate Mike's insights on Brandon Ingram, props to coach Pete and Darius for the great work they do on the podcast.



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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 8:20 am    Post subject:

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Yeah Nate Duncan and Danny Leroux crapped on him as well. Not saying he's not talented but I just think Lonzo and Ingram have higher ceilings than him. I mean imagine them at 20 going against college competition...BBQ chicken lol. Also I'd rather not deal with the off court issues, major red flag IMO...


off court issues like Lavar ball?
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 8:23 am    Post subject:

Andre2K wrote:
Hydro21 wrote:
saetarubia wrote:
Andre2K wrote:
GoldenThroat wrote:
Just had a great Lakers-centric interview with Mike Schmitz. The pod should be up at some point tonight.


Looking forward to it


Listening to it.

https://soundcloud.com/user-456873398


Sheesh Mike Schmitz made me not want JJ at all lol


Yeah Nate Duncan and Danny Leroux crapped on him as well. Not saying he's not talented but I just think Lonzo and Ingram have higher ceilings than him. I mean imagine them at 20 going against college competition...BBQ chicken lol. Also I'd rather not deal with the off court issues, major red flag IMO...

Anyways that was a great listen and I appreciate Mike's insights on Brandon Ingram, props to coach Pete and Darius for the great work they do on the podcast.


Nate is a terrible draft prospect evaluator....and well Danny just agrees with whoever the alpha is. I personally like Nate, but he has been poor at this for years....just as he was very low on Ingram and Rusell. Not many true NBA talking heads, that dip into the draft for a couple months are very good....and Nate is the perfect example of this. Listen to Real GM podcast last week with Sam Vecenie, and you will think Danny is a totally different guy because he just mostly agrees with Sam.

I always picture Nate and Danny walking towards to beach, and Nate is hands free pontificating, and Danny is carrying two chairs, a cooler, Nate's sunscreen, etc. while trying to write down Nate's comments.
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 8:24 am    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
Andre2K wrote:
Hydro21 wrote:
saetarubia wrote:
Andre2K wrote:
GoldenThroat wrote:
Just had a great Lakers-centric interview with Mike Schmitz. The pod should be up at some point tonight.


Looking forward to it


Listening to it.

https://soundcloud.com/user-456873398


Sheesh Mike Schmitz made me not want JJ at all lol


Yeah Nate Duncan and Danny Leroux crapped on him as well. Not saying he's not talented but I just think Lonzo and Ingram have higher ceilings than him. I mean imagine them at 20 going against college competition...BBQ chicken lol. Also I'd rather not deal with the off court issues, major red flag IMO...

Anyways that was a great listen and I appreciate Mike's insights on Brandon Ingram, props to coach Pete and Darius for the great work they do on the podcast.


Nate is a terrible draft prospect evaluator....and well Danny just agrees with whoever the alpha is. I personally like Nate, but he has been poor at this for years....just as he was very low on Ingram and Rusell. Not many true NBA talking heads, that dip into the draft for a couple months are very good....and Nate is the perfect example of this. Listen to Real GM podcast last week with Sam Vecenie, and you will think Danny is a totally different guy because he just mostly agrees with Sam.

I always picture Nate and Danny walking towards to beach, and Nate is hands free pontificating, and Danny is carrying two chairs, a cooler, Nate's sunscreen, etc. while trying to write down Nate's comments.


Nate focuses on NBA ball and doesn't spend enough time looking at draft prospects to have an informed opinion. I don't think there's enough time in the world to have informed opinions on NBA basketball AND be well informed on draft prospects too. Too much bball to watch.
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 8:31 am    Post subject:

Man- I am getting hyped about Ball.

He has flaws for sure, but he is just 19 and from everything I have read this kid is dedicated to his craft.

His high Bbal IQ at his young age is the key for me. It will only improve and his only goal on the floor is getting his teammates involved.

He will be Luke on the floor. Can you imagine Luke and Ball scheming together? I think they will stay up late at night just talking ball. Good things are going to come from this.

Ball is more quick and athletic than he is given credit for. It looks like he has a DLO similar 6'9" wingspan and given his IQ and speed he will be a decent to a plus defender.

Lastly he is a leader and not afraid to be one. This team has not had a real leader since Kobe. It is unusual for a 19 year old to have this ability, but it is real and will only improve with time.
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 8:32 am    Post subject:

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Yeah Nate Duncan and Danny Leroux crapped on him as well. Not saying he's not talented but I just think Lonzo and Ingram have higher ceilings than him. I mean imagine them at 20 going against college competition...BBQ chicken lol. Also I'd rather not deal with the off court issues, major red flag IMO...


off court issues like Lavar ball?


Who is Lavar ball and what team he play for?
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 8:35 am    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
Andre2K wrote:
Hydro21 wrote:
saetarubia wrote:
Andre2K wrote:
GoldenThroat wrote:
Just had a great Lakers-centric interview with Mike Schmitz. The pod should be up at some point tonight.


Looking forward to it


Listening to it.

https://soundcloud.com/user-456873398


Sheesh Mike Schmitz made me not want JJ at all lol


Yeah Nate Duncan and Danny Leroux crapped on him as well. Not saying he's not talented but I just think Lonzo and Ingram have higher ceilings than him. I mean imagine them at 20 going against college competition...BBQ chicken lol. Also I'd rather not deal with the off court issues, major red flag IMO...

Anyways that was a great listen and I appreciate Mike's insights on Brandon Ingram, props to coach Pete and Darius for the great work they do on the podcast.


Nate is a terrible draft prospect evaluator....and well Danny just agrees with whoever the alpha is. I personally like Nate, but he has been poor at this for years....just as he was very low on Ingram and Rusell. Not many true NBA talking heads, that dip into the draft for a couple months are very good....and Nate is the perfect example of this. Listen to Real GM podcast last week with Sam Vecenie, and you will think Danny is a totally different guy because he just mostly agrees with Sam.

I always picture Nate and Danny walking towards to beach, and Nate is hands free pontificating, and Danny is carrying two chairs, a cooler, Nate's sunscreen, etc. while trying to write down Nate's comments.


I don't care for their takes to be frank.

Josh Jackson shot 56% from the free throw line, didn't show much range on his improved 3pt shot. Kmt I'll pass.
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 8:35 am    Post subject:

Andre2K wrote:
adkindo wrote:
Andre2K wrote:
Hydro21 wrote:
saetarubia wrote:
Andre2K wrote:
GoldenThroat wrote:
Just had a great Lakers-centric interview with Mike Schmitz. The pod should be up at some point tonight.


Looking forward to it


Listening to it.

https://soundcloud.com/user-456873398


Sheesh Mike Schmitz made me not want JJ at all lol


Yeah Nate Duncan and Danny Leroux crapped on him as well. Not saying he's not talented but I just think Lonzo and Ingram have higher ceilings than him. I mean imagine them at 20 going against college competition...BBQ chicken lol. Also I'd rather not deal with the off court issues, major red flag IMO...

Anyways that was a great listen and I appreciate Mike's insights on Brandon Ingram, props to coach Pete and Darius for the great work they do on the podcast.


Nate is a terrible draft prospect evaluator....and well Danny just agrees with whoever the alpha is. I personally like Nate, but he has been poor at this for years....just as he was very low on Ingram and Rusell. Not many true NBA talking heads, that dip into the draft for a couple months are very good....and Nate is the perfect example of this. Listen to Real GM podcast last week with Sam Vecenie, and you will think Danny is a totally different guy because he just mostly agrees with Sam.

I always picture Nate and Danny walking towards to beach, and Nate is hands free pontificating, and Danny is carrying two chairs, a cooler, Nate's sunscreen, etc. while trying to write down Nate's comments.


I don't care for their takes to be frank.

Josh Jackson shot 56% from the free throw line, didn't show much range on his improved 3pt shot. Kmt I'll pass.


what does that even mean? I always find it funny that Ball fans are so quick to point out that Jackson shot 57% from the line, while appearing not bothered at all that Lonzo shot 67%.....so one was 6 of 11 and that is a problem.....while the other was 7 of 11, and that is perfectly fine....especially since Jackson got to the line about twice as much as Lonzo.


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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 8:38 am    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
Andre2K wrote:
adkindo wrote:
Andre2K wrote:
Hydro21 wrote:
saetarubia wrote:
Andre2K wrote:
GoldenThroat wrote:
Just had a great Lakers-centric interview with Mike Schmitz. The pod should be up at some point tonight.


Looking forward to it


Listening to it.

https://soundcloud.com/user-456873398


Sheesh Mike Schmitz made me not want JJ at all lol


Yeah Nate Duncan and Danny Leroux crapped on him as well. Not saying he's not talented but I just think Lonzo and Ingram have higher ceilings than him. I mean imagine them at 20 going against college competition...BBQ chicken lol. Also I'd rather not deal with the off court issues, major red flag IMO...

Anyways that was a great listen and I appreciate Mike's insights on Brandon Ingram, props to coach Pete and Darius for the great work they do on the podcast.


Nate is a terrible draft prospect evaluator....and well Danny just agrees with whoever the alpha is. I personally like Nate, but he has been poor at this for years....just as he was very low on Ingram and Rusell. Not many true NBA talking heads, that dip into the draft for a couple months are very good....and Nate is the perfect example of this. Listen to Real GM podcast last week with Sam Vecenie, and you will think Danny is a totally different guy because he just mostly agrees with Sam.

I always picture Nate and Danny walking towards to beach, and Nate is hands free pontificating, and Danny is carrying two chairs, a cooler, Nate's sunscreen, etc. while trying to write down Nate's comments.


I don't care for their takes to be frank.

Josh Jackson shot 56% from the free throw line, didn't show much range on his improved 3pt shot. Kmt I'll pass.


what does that even mean?


It means I don't trust his shooting and his ability to space the floor on this team.
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 8:38 am    Post subject:

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Does anyone remind you of yourself at that young age in this year's draft?

"That's easy, Lonzo Ball"
- @MagicJohnson


lets just get in the Lonzo Ball.

Sorry Josh Jackson
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Does anyone remind you of yourself at that young age in this year's draft?

"That's easy, Lonzo Ball"
- @MagicJohnson


lets just get in the Lonzo Ball.

Sorry Josh Jackson


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Does anyone remind you of yourself at that young age in this year's draft?

"That's easy, Lonzo Ball"
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lets just get in the Lonzo Ball.

Sorry Josh Jackson


Lonzo confirmed
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Word of advice to @Lakers fans I spoke to @UCLA coach Steve Alford & he said Lonzo Ball is.a super fit .Said Dad was not a prob 4 him .


That means he'll tell the Lakers that too.
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adkindo wrote:
Andre2K wrote:
adkindo wrote:
Andre2K wrote:
Hydro21 wrote:
saetarubia wrote:
Andre2K wrote:
GoldenThroat wrote:
Just had a great Lakers-centric interview with Mike Schmitz. The pod should be up at some point tonight.


Looking forward to it


Listening to it.

https://soundcloud.com/user-456873398


Sheesh Mike Schmitz made me not want JJ at all lol


Yeah Nate Duncan and Danny Leroux crapped on him as well. Not saying he's not talented but I just think Lonzo and Ingram have higher ceilings than him. I mean imagine them at 20 going against college competition...BBQ chicken lol. Also I'd rather not deal with the off court issues, major red flag IMO...

Anyways that was a great listen and I appreciate Mike's insights on Brandon Ingram, props to coach Pete and Darius for the great work they do on the podcast.


Nate is a terrible draft prospect evaluator....and well Danny just agrees with whoever the alpha is. I personally like Nate, but he has been poor at this for years....just as he was very low on Ingram and Rusell. Not many true NBA talking heads, that dip into the draft for a couple months are very good....and Nate is the perfect example of this. Listen to Real GM podcast last week with Sam Vecenie, and you will think Danny is a totally different guy because he just mostly agrees with Sam.

I always picture Nate and Danny walking towards to beach, and Nate is hands free pontificating, and Danny is carrying two chairs, a cooler, Nate's sunscreen, etc. while trying to write down Nate's comments.


I don't care for their takes to be frank.

Josh Jackson shot 56% from the free throw line, didn't show much range on his improved 3pt shot. Kmt I'll pass.


what does that even mean? I always find it funny that Ball fans are so quick to point out that Jackson shot 57% from the line, while appearing not bothered at all that Lonzo shot 67%.....so one was 6 of 11 and that is a problem.....while the other was 7 of 11, and that is perfectly fine....especially since Jackson got to the line about twice as much as Lonzo.


That makes it even more alarming
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Does anyone remind you of yourself at that young age in this year's draft?

"That's easy, Lonzo Ball"
- @MagicJohnson


lets just get in the Lonzo Ball.

Sorry Josh Jackson

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That makes it even more alarming


57% FTs is 1.14 PPP, which is still pretty good.
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Yeah Nate Duncan and Danny Leroux crapped on him as well. Not saying he's not talented but I just think Lonzo and Ingram have higher ceilings than him. I mean imagine them at 20 going against college competition...BBQ chicken lol. Also I'd rather not deal with the off court issues, major red flag IMO...


off court issues like Lavar ball?


You're reaching if you think the off court issues a loud mouth dad brings compare to Josh Jacksons at Kansas
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Andre2K wrote:
Yeah Nate Duncan and Danny Leroux crapped on him as well. Not saying he's not talented but I just think Lonzo and Ingram have higher ceilings than him. I mean imagine them at 20 going against college competition...BBQ chicken lol. Also I'd rather not deal with the off court issues, major red flag IMO...


off court issues like Lavar ball?


You're reaching if you think the off court issues a loud mouth dad brings compare to Josh Jacksons at Kansas


I was wondering if everybody had glossed over that. Jackson did some serious damage to a car and was trying to get a girl to come out of that car so he could beat her up. At least Okafor picks fights with dudes...
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ESPNLosAngeles‏ @ESPNLosAngeles 1h1 hour ago
"Our young core we're excited about, we want to build around that young core." - @MagicJohnson

Does anyone remind you of yourself at that young age in this year's draft?

"That's easy, Lonzo Ball"
- @MagicJohnson


"We feel next year's class is going to be a special class of free agents...

One superstar could change our roster, change our team"

-Magic

"We are hearing from agents that their players want to play for us now, (you know) whenever they become free."

- @MagicJohnson

What @MagicJohnson is looking for in pre-draft interviews:

"I want a competitor.

I want a guy who wants to be special and be the best."
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Does anyone remind you of yourself at that young age in this year's draft?

"That's easy, Lonzo Ball"
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lets just get in the Lonzo Ball.

Sorry Josh Jackson


Ball and DLO is gonna be an amazing backcourt.
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I think it would be a mistake to pass on Ball because he is a special player that makes everyone around him better.

I'd hate to see him thrive in Philly playing alongside Embiid and Simmons while we constantly criticize Jackson's poor shooting.
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