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KeepItRealOrElse
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Fiendish If i remembered more of Gerald Wallace's game, or took the time to look - I'd probably agree with that comp that you gave Jackson - you said Wallace with point guard skills
I know conjuring inaccurate 1:1 comparisons is our favorite past time as fans... But the 'mix of - comparisons' may be more fun.
For Jackson I'd say
-MKG motor/defense
-Iggy ball handling & passing
Jumper that I can't predict... |
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adkindo
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| Vishnu wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | eddiejonze wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | give LG what they want....Jackson vs. Ball in the final  |
Nah, LG wants UCLA revenge on arizona. Take a poll. |
you really think so? I guess the whole board....I am probably thinking more of the draft thread... |
They wouldn't meet in the final |
your right...Semi Final |
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GoldenThroat
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| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | Fiendish If i remembered more of Gerald Wallace's game, or took the time to look - I'd probably agree with that comp that you gave Jackson - you said Wallace with point guard skills
I know conjuring inaccurate 1:1 comparisons is our favorite past time as fans... But the 'mix of - comparisons' may be more fun.
For Jackson I'd say
-MKG motor/defense
-Iggy ball handling & passing
Jumper that I can't predict... |
I like that comp as well. |
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krisobe
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| matrixskillz wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | Mason reminds me a little of Jameer Nelson @ St. Joseph's |
He reminds me more of Kemba at UConn. Definitely worth a high 2nd |
Reminds me of a right handed , 3 inch taller Isaiah Thomas who was picked VERY last. I say we get him at 28 just to be safe. |
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ChickenStu
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| I really like Trier. I think CBS is highest on him and I think they are for good reason. |
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adkindo
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| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | Fiendish If i remembered more of Gerald Wallace's game, or took the time to look - I'd probably agree with that comp that you gave Jackson - you said Wallace with point guard skills
I know conjuring inaccurate 1:1 comparisons is our favorite past time as fans... But the 'mix of - comparisons' may be more fun.
For Jackson I'd say
-MKG motor/defense
-Iggy ball handling & passing
Jumper that I can't predict... |
I think he will have more of a scorer mentality in the pro's. At least more than Iggy. |
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ChickenStu
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| Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Trier has the last 15 for Zona. Wow. And that shot looks pretty pure to me. |
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adkindo
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| Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | I really like Trier. I think CBS is highest on him and I think they are for good reason. |
pretty sure he will go in top #25...I know he does not have great measurements, but he can play |
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bonkers
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| Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Trier hmm... |
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Baron Von Humongous
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | I really like Trier. I think CBS is highest on him and I think they are for good reason. |
I shouldn't like him more than Markkanen...but I do. |
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Mini Mamba
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| It would be funny if we drafted Ball and Trier. Both have very similar first names. |
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ChickenStu
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| Markannen is going to be an absolute nothing on defense in the pros. He can still make an impact offensively--perhaps a big one--but man, that D. Oy vey. |
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KeepItRealOrElse
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| adkindo wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | Fiendish If i remembered more of Gerald Wallace's game, or took the time to look - I'd probably agree with that comp that you gave Jackson - you said Wallace with point guard skills
I know conjuring inaccurate 1:1 comparisons is our favorite past time as fans... But the 'mix of - comparisons' may be more fun.
For Jackson I'd say
-MKG motor/defense
-Iggy ball handling & passing
Jumper that I can't predict... |
I think he will have more of a scorer mentality in the pro's. At least more than Iggy. |
I think that depends on his jumper. I think the ability to score(shoot in large part) is the determining factor of aggressiveness. I think that's why we've seen Ingram be passive so often this season. If a guy knows he can't shoot/score, he gon' look to create for others.
Jackson can be unselfish if need be, and is a skilled passer/creator |
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adkindo
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| Mini Mamba wrote: | | It would be funny if we drafted Ball and Trier. Both have very similar first names. |
who would get to be called "Zo"? |
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adkindo
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| Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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| this monitor stuff on every play under 2 minutes is getting old fast |
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adkindo
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| Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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| adkindo wrote: | | this monitor stuff on every play under 2 minutes is getting old fast |
how does it take them so long  |
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ChickenStu
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| Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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| What a complete and utter choke job by Arizona. |
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matrixskillz
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| krisobe wrote: | | matrixskillz wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | Mason reminds me a little of Jameer Nelson @ St. Joseph's |
He reminds me more of Kemba at UConn. Definitely worth a high 2nd |
Reminds me of a right handed , 3 inch taller Isaiah Thomas who was picked VERY last. I say we get him at 28 just to be safe. |
I was all for drafting IT that year. Can't believe he dropped to 60.
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dcarter4kobe
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Jackson's motor is impressive
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Runway8
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| Tony Anapolis wrote: | | Runway8 wrote: | | noahp45 wrote: | I'm liking the idea of a
Ball
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Until you realize Ball is just like any other rookie we've had... meaning it will take time. While PG13 is an inefficient scorer, and a passive Kobe. 22 pts and he's had his own team for awhile, so nothing will change on the scoring front. 22 is lightweight for a "superstar" who might not make the all-star in the West either.
My comment is based on assuming that you've dealt Ingram and D'Lo for George? Terrible idea, hope this isn't what Magic and Pelinka are thinking. |
George has been above average defender this year. Which could be considered elite now? I mean let's face it, defense in the NBA this season has to be close to an all time worst? Bit before this year George's defense has been in the elite, elite category, even better then Kobe. So 22pts and say a top 10 defender is worth it imo. |
Will Ball and Randle explode and be superstars during PG13's prime? I don't think they will, and I'd like a better end-game than the line up that Noahp45 proposed. In that scenario, you just traded Ingram and Russell for several years of mediocrity. I think Bird would be ecstatic going forward with a trio of Turner/Ingram/Russell.
The elite wing club is a minimum of 25/5/5, the numbers Kobe and T-Mac would at least get. PG13 doesn't even get the minimum on a team all to himself. I'm just not a big PG13 fan. |
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| dao wrote: | | 2019 wrote: |
I'm still a huge Ben Simmons guy. I'd easily trade the #1 for him. |
wow, that's an interesting thought. I wonder if Philly would entertain this, since Saric at PF is pretty solid for them.. Fultz for Simmons.. |
Now THAT'S an interesting trade.
I think Philly would do it depending where they land come lotto night. If they end up with Smith or Monk on Draft day they're pretty much set. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:24 am Post subject: |
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| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | Fiendish If i remembered more of Gerald Wallace's game, or took the time to look - I'd probably agree with that comp that you gave Jackson - you said Wallace with point guard skills
I know conjuring inaccurate 1:1 comparisons is our favorite past time as fans... But the 'mix of - comparisons' may be more fun.
For Jackson I'd say
-MKG motor/defense
-Iggy ball handling & passing
Jumper that I can't predict... |
Yeah, it's hard to find good 1:1 comparisons bc you end up boxing the prospects into certain characteristics that they may or may not have. |
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dao
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| BynumForThree wrote: | | dao wrote: | | 2019 wrote: |
I'm still a huge Ben Simmons guy. I'd easily trade the #1 for him. |
wow, that's an interesting thought. I wonder if Philly would entertain this, since Saric at PF is pretty solid for them.. Fultz for Simmons.. |
Now THAT'S an interesting trade.
I think Philly would do it depending where they land come lotto night. If they end up with Smith or Monk on Draft day they're pretty much set. |
Smith or Monk would make sense, especially Monk. Let's say they get the fifth pick and we get the first pick. we trade Fultz for Simmons, they draft Monk.
Their roster lineup would be
Fultz
Monk
Covington
Saric
Embiid
I think that's better for them than having Simmons at PF and a hole in the starting backcourt.
We would have (Nick young resigned on large one large year deal)
Russell
Young
Ingram
Simmons
Zubac
Let simmons be point forward. Zubac can shoot, so you actually have four shooters surrounding Simmons, which is perfect.
I'd even throw in the late first rounder and second rounder to make it work if necessary. Also throw in Randle if they want him.
This trade really makes a lot of sense for Philly. Having Fultz instead of Simmons gives them a much more balanced roster. They don't waste Saric, who's a very solid stretch 4 prospect. And a Fultz/Embiid screen and roll/pop based offense would be lethal. |
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Baron Von Humongous
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Monk is going through a massive shooting slump in March, hitting only 18% of his 3s in the tournament after hitting 26% in the SEC tournament. It's also interesting, though possibly not very meaningful when assessing his pro potential, to see that Monk has only hit 27% of his 3s on true road games this year. He shot 41% on 3s at neutral sites, but that doesn't include his tournament performance and is buoyed by his 8-12 shooting against UNC in Las Vegas in December.
I still think he'll be a special shooter in the NBA, but there's additional ammunition for the "Monk is too streaky to be anything but a sixth man" crowd. |
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Monk is going through a massive shooting slump in March, hitting only 18% of his 3s in the tournament after hitting 26% in the SEC tournament. It's also interesting, though possibly not very meaningful when assessing his pro potential, to see that Monk has only hit 27% of his 3s on true road games this year. He shot 41% on 3s at neutral sites, but that doesn't include his tournament performance and is buoyed by his 8-12 shooting against UNC in Las Vegas in December.
I still think he'll be a special shooter in the NBA, but there's additional ammunition for the "Monk is too streaky to be anything but a sixth man" crowd. |
I think he may drop out of lottery.....because if he is not an elite shooter in the NBA, he is pretty much uselsss. |
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