2017 Lakers Draft Discussion Thread ** DRAFT DAY** (2: Ball, 27: Kuzma, 30: Hart and 42: Bryant )
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Who you got after Fultz?
Lonzo Ball
75%
 75%  [ 315 ]
Josh Jackson
15%
 15%  [ 64 ]
Jayson Tatum
1%
 1%  [ 8 ]
De'Aaron Fox
4%
 4%  [ 20 ]
Malik Monk
1%
 1%  [ 5 ]
Jonathan Isaac
0%
 0%  [ 4 ]
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:45 pm    Post subject:

Despite not looking too good today, I could see Ball doing well in Luke's system
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:46 pm    Post subject:

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cant judge Ball on this single game


Magic is there watching this game plus his idiot dad talking about being better than Jordan or Curry. Just not a good look when you see other lotto players like Fox and Monk
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:46 pm    Post subject:

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first live game I've seen from ball. He looks like a fantastic role player that does not pressure the defense. He's a play "finder" more than a play maker.


I don't see how he will fit with DLO rather have either Monk or Fox just watching this game.


For real. He is like Rondo, great passer with a fatal offensive limitation.

Wait, who is Rondo in this comparison? Fox can not from outside to save his life.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:46 pm    Post subject: Concerns if Lonzo Ball becomes a Laker? My observation...Just wondering

I'm watching Fox/Monk go at it with Ball....Ball arguably more talented than Fox...but not being aggressive. ..this is the damn Sweet 16...Fox is taking it personal and going at dude...Ball is a stat stuffer...tons of talent. ...but where is his kill mode switch? Red flag much?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:46 pm    Post subject:

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cant judge Ball on this single game


It does substantiate all the building criticisms on him though ...


he looks mentally off....who knows what is going on with mom or anything...just looks distracted
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:47 pm    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
cant judge Ball on this single game
this is the only full game I've seen him play. But really, his iso game just isn't there. You can definitely see the IQ and suoer-elite passing, but he can't really break the defense down to fully utilize the passing skills. I think he'd be a great off-ball guard, but you can't run your offense through him. His handle is nothing special, and his athleticism is pedestrian. You can't run your offense through a guard like that. I'd still take him third, but Fultz and Jackson I think are a notch above him.

He's a shooting guard with fantastic passing skill, great IQ, average athleticism, average handle.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:48 pm    Post subject:

and yet another phantom foul for fox,,
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:49 pm    Post subject:

trade the pick for Paul George
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:49 pm    Post subject:

that did look like John Wall
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Concerns if Lonzo Ball becomes a Laker? My observation...Just wondering

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I'm watching Fox/Monk go at it with Ball....Ball arguably more talented than Fox...but not being aggressive. ..this is the damn Sweet 16...Fox is taking it personal and going at dude...Ball is a stat stuffer...tons of talent. ...but where is his kill mode switch? Red flag much?

He's done a pretty good job in several other games this season where he's taken over in the 2nd half to lead a comeback.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:49 pm    Post subject:

dao wrote:
adkindo wrote:
cant judge Ball on this single game
this is the only full game I've seen him play. But really, his iso game just isn't there. You can definitely see the IQ and suoer-elite passing, but he can't really break the defense down to fully utilize the passing skills. I think he'd be a great off-ball guard, but you can't run your offense through him. His handle is nothing special, and his athleticism is pedestrian. You can't run your offense through a guard like that. I'd still take him third, but Fultz and Jackson I think are a notch above him.


Essentially Ricky Rubio back in the days.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:49 pm    Post subject:

Fox looks damn fast though, kinda impressed. I can see why he was projected top 3 before the season.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:49 pm    Post subject:

dao wrote:
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first live game I've seen from ball. He looks like a fantastic role player that does not pressure the defense. He's a play "finder" more than a play maker.


I don't see how he will fit with DLO rather have either Monk or Fox just watching this game.
If we get the second pick I think you have to think hard about taking Jackson over Ball. He's good but his iso game is really non-existent, and he's not strong in the screen game, so..


I don't think it's even a thought anymore.

Top 3 - Fultz, Jackson, Tatum

Ball just played himself out of the Top 3
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:50 pm    Post subject:

SEC going to have 3 teams in Elite 8
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:50 pm    Post subject:

Yong wrote:
dao wrote:
adkindo wrote:
cant judge Ball on this single game
this is the only full game I've seen him play. But really, his iso game just isn't there. You can definitely see the IQ and suoer-elite passing, but he can't really break the defense down to fully utilize the passing skills. I think he'd be a great off-ball guard, but you can't run your offense through him. His handle is nothing special, and his athleticism is pedestrian. You can't run your offense through a guard like that. I'd still take him third, but Fultz and Jackson I think are a notch above him.


Essentially Ricky Rubio back in the days.

Ball has a good jumper though... I wanna see them run some set plays to get him open for the 3
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:51 pm    Post subject:

I have concern about his 'ceiling'.

Realistically, what can he evolve? His shot is wreck, he has NO driving game at all, and he doesn't finish well.

Are we going to use a top 3 pick to draft someone who runs the fastbreak well and makes great swing passes in half court?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:51 pm    Post subject:

JeffreyRashad wrote:
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first live game I've seen from ball. He looks like a fantastic role player that does not pressure the defense. He's a play "finder" more than a play maker.


I don't see how he will fit with DLO rather have either Monk or Fox just watching this game.
If we get the second pick I think you have to think hard about taking Jackson over Ball. He's good but his iso game is really non-existent, and he's not strong in the screen game, so..


I don't think it's even a thought anymore.

Top 3 - Fultz, Jackson, Tatum

Ball just played himself out of the Top 3

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:51 pm    Post subject:

At what point does Lavar Ball rush to half court and threaten to beat up Kentucky's team if his son's team doesnt win?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:52 pm    Post subject:

TrekLife wrote:
Yong wrote:
dao wrote:
adkindo wrote:
cant judge Ball on this single game
this is the only full game I've seen him play. But really, his iso game just isn't there. You can definitely see the IQ and suoer-elite passing, but he can't really break the defense down to fully utilize the passing skills. I think he'd be a great off-ball guard, but you can't run your offense through him. His handle is nothing special, and his athleticism is pedestrian. You can't run your offense through a guard like that. I'd still take him third, but Fultz and Jackson I think are a notch above him.


Essentially Ricky Rubio back in the days.

Ball has a good jumper though... I wanna see them run some set plays to get him open for the 3


Not confident to conclude that he has a good jumper. When he is off, he is WAY off.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:52 pm    Post subject:

Regardless of his game tonight I still like Ball. I have softened to him that is for sure. I was always a Fultz guy anyway though, and I still think Fultz goes #1.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:52 pm    Post subject:

yeah Ball is a shooting guard with excellent passing, average athleticism and handle imo. Which is still a really good player if his jumper translates. A fantastic role player. I still think I'd take him third.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:52 pm    Post subject:

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At what point does Lavar Ball rush to half court and threaten to beat up Kentucky's team if his son's team doesnt win?


he is in California...really wondering about his wife's health...for him to stay...and Lonzo looks in a daze


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:53 pm    Post subject:

eddiejonze wrote:
JeffreyRashad wrote:
dao wrote:
bandiger wrote:
dao wrote:
first live game I've seen from ball. He looks like a fantastic role player that does not pressure the defense. He's a play "finder" more than a play maker.


I don't see how he will fit with DLO rather have either Monk or Fox just watching this game.
If we get the second pick I think you have to think hard about taking Jackson over Ball. He's good but his iso game is really non-existent, and he's not strong in the screen game, so..


I don't think it's even a thought anymore.

Top 3 - Fultz, Jackson, Tatum

Ball just played himself out of the Top 3

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AFTER this game though? It's certainly a possibility. Add the LaVar element (remember how Lamar went downhill after the Kardashian distraction?), and I think his stock may have fallen.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:54 pm    Post subject:

Can't take a role player in the Top 3
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:54 pm    Post subject:

dao wrote:
yeah Ball is a shooting guard with excellent passing, average athleticism and handle imo. Which is still a really good player if his jumper translates. A fantastic role player. I still think I'd take him third.


You will take a fantastic role player with the 3rd pick?

I would rather roll the dice with Tatum or Jackson. Even if they don't turn out as superstars, but the tier of Derozan, that's still way better than a glorified Rubio.
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