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LakerSD
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| adkindo wrote: | SEC going to have 3 teams in Elite 8  |
The conference is CLEARLY known for basketball |
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Tony Anapolis
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| Yong wrote: | | dao wrote: | | yeah Ball is a shooting guard with excellent passing, average athleticism and handle imo. Which is still a really good player if his jumper translates. A fantastic role player. I still think I'd take him third. |
You will take a fantastic role player with the 3rd pick?
I would rather roll the dice with Tatum or Jackson. Even if they don't turn out as superstars, but the tier of Derozan, that's still way better than a glorified Rubio. |
Just trade Deng and Hou pick to Minnesota for Rubio! |
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eddiejonze
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ball is limping, wonder if he got hurt this game with some uncalled UK foul
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adkindo
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| Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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| If Alford announces he is going to Indiana soon....he will be the most hated man in LA...cause that would mean he had already been negotiating |
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The Lebrons
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| Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Yong wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | cant judge Ball on this single game |
It does substantiate all the building criticisms on him though ... |
It reminds me of early criticism of Lebron. Granted Lebron's a better scorer, but Ball is who is who. Not a guy who's going to flip the switch and start chucking and forcing it. |
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adkindo
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| Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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| eddiejonze wrote: | | ball is limping, wonder if he got hurt this game with some uncalled UK foul |
he has did so little, his leg fell asleep...just kidding |
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adkindo
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| Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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| all my UCLA friends....I know it sucks....still hurting from last night....but there is always next year |
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JeffreyRashad
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| eddiejonze wrote: | | JeffreyRashad wrote: | | dao wrote: | | bandiger wrote: | | dao wrote: | | first live game I've seen from ball. He looks like a fantastic role player that does not pressure the defense. He's a play "finder" more than a play maker. |
I don't see how he will fit with DLO rather have either Monk or Fox just watching this game. |
If we get the second pick I think you have to think hard about taking Jackson over Ball. He's good but his iso game is really non-existent, and he's not strong in the screen game, so.. |
I don't think it's even a thought anymore.
Top 3 - Fultz, Jackson, Tatum
Ball just played himself out of the Top 3 |
the Lakers disagree with you |
My bad Magic, I didn't know you had already made your decision |
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pio2u
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| Fox & Monk dominated |
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LakerLogic
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| Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Alford and Leaf are just big liabilities on D. |
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pio2u
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| Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Feel for Lonzo but at least his dad will quiet down for at least a day or two |
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dao
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| Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Yong wrote: | | dao wrote: | | yeah Ball is a shooting guard with excellent passing, average athleticism and handle imo. Which is still a really good player if his jumper translates. A fantastic role player. I still think I'd take him third. |
You will take a fantastic role player with the 3rd pick?
I would rather roll the dice with Tatum or Jackson. Even if they don't turn out as superstars, but the tier of Derozan, that's still way better than a glorified Rubio. |
Jackson will go second, I'd definitely take him over Ball. I haven't payed much attention to guys like Tatum who were projected out of the top three, other than looking at their stats and DX vids.
And yeah, I'd definitely take a fantastic role player with the third pick. If Ball's jumper translates, he's a damn good shooting guard prospect. I just call him a role player because he doesn't really pressure the defense, and thus can't be a guy you hand the ball to and say "make me a play." Green in Golden State is a role player too, but a top 10-15 player in the league. That's the kind of role player I expect ball to be, but he has to play with guys that can break down the defense. |
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| LakerLogic wrote: | | Alford and Leaf are just big liabilities on D. |
and Anigbogu gave them nothing tonight |
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JeffreyRashad
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And I'm a UCLA fan and picked them to go to the Final Four.
As a Laker fan, I'm weary of picking a high-level role player with a Top 3 pick |
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| IMO this game nor any of the tournament game will change the pecking order. |
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JeezyXVII
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| pio2u wrote: | | Feel for Lonzo but at least his dad will quiet down for at least a day or two |
3 Days MAX !  |
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Yong
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| Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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| DLO > Ball |
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eddiejonze
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| JeffreyRashad wrote: | | eddiejonze wrote: | | JeffreyRashad wrote: | | dao wrote: | | bandiger wrote: | | dao wrote: | | first live game I've seen from ball. He looks like a fantastic role player that does not pressure the defense. He's a play "finder" more than a play maker. |
I don't see how he will fit with DLO rather have either Monk or Fox just watching this game. |
If we get the second pick I think you have to think hard about taking Jackson over Ball. He's good but his iso game is really non-existent, and he's not strong in the screen game, so.. |
I don't think it's even a thought anymore.
Top 3 - Fultz, Jackson, Tatum
Ball just played himself out of the Top 3 |
the Lakers disagree with you |
My bad Magic, I didn't know you had already made your decision |
No problem Kwame Brown, even though you were the first pick, draft analysis just slips through your hands there, buddy.
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| pio2u wrote: | | IMO this game nor any of the tournament game will change the pecking order. |
it could help solidify Fox in the top 5....but yeah, nobody is making their final decision over a single game....nobody would accuse me of being a Ball apologists....but even I get he just had a bad game. |
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saetarubia
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I don't think Ball is a SG. I'd bet on him averaging 6-7 assists in NBA than 20 PPG. He hasn't shown much midrange and isn't that crafty around the rim either. He's a scoring threat mainly beyond the arc and in transition. Josh Jackson reminds me of Ingram with better handles and more explosive. But we already Ingram, Randle, Nance who aren't good shooters at the moment.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:07 pm Post subject: Re: Concerns if Lonzo Ball becomes a Laker? My observation...Just wondering |
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| P.K. wrote: | | LakeShowSince84 wrote: | | I'm watching Fox/Monk go at it with Ball....Ball arguably more talented than Fox...but not being aggressive. ..this is the damn Sweet 16...Fox is taking it personal and going at dude...Ball is a stat stuffer...tons of talent. ...but where is his kill mode switch? Red flag much? |
He's done a pretty good job in several other games this season where he's taken over in the 2nd half to lead a comeback. |
pretty much that. But after you watch college basketball for a while and how 'tournaments' translate to actual NBA talent, you learn not to put much stock into it.
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Yong
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| dao wrote: | | Yong wrote: | | dao wrote: | | yeah Ball is a shooting guard with excellent passing, average athleticism and handle imo. Which is still a really good player if his jumper translates. A fantastic role player. I still think I'd take him third. |
You will take a fantastic role player with the 3rd pick?
I would rather roll the dice with Tatum or Jackson. Even if they don't turn out as superstars, but the tier of Derozan, that's still way better than a glorified Rubio. |
Jackson will go second, I'd definitely take him over Ball. I haven't payed much attention to guys like Tatum who were projected out of the top three, other than looking at their stats and DX vids.
And yeah, I'd definitely take a fantastic role player with the third pick. If Ball's jumper translates, he's a damn good shooting guard prospect. I just call him a role player because he doesn't really pressure the defense, and thus can't be a guy you hand the ball to and say "make me a play." Green in Golden State is a role player too, but a top 10-15 player in the league. That's the kind of role player I expect ball to be, but he has to play with guys that can break down the defense. |
But Green, is considered a consistent 3pt shooter for a big man, and actually has legit post moves (iso moves).
Ball doesn't man .... |
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| pio2u wrote: | | IMO this game nor any of the tournament game will change the pecking order. |
it never is.
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Yong
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| We truly need 1st pick so that we can pick Fultz. Ball is a full tier below Fultz |
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KeVaughn Allen going off for Florida
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