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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:43 pm    Post subject: Does D'Angelo Russell have the most effortless shot release in the game?

I don't see enough people talking about Russell's release, and I feel they should be because it's one of the things, in my mind, that makes him such a special player. I think it might be even quicker, or as quick, as Curry's release. But it's even more unguardable because DLO launches it off of his fingertips from above his head.

Am I the only one seeing this? This guy could quite possibly break the 3 point record if he gets hot one night.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:50 pm    Post subject:

I don't know that he's quicker than curry, but yeah, it is smooth as hell.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:52 pm    Post subject:

Most effortless yes maybe.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:59 pm    Post subject:

zePokar wrote:
Most effortless yes maybe.


I'm trying to think of someone who could compare but I can't. Steph is quite possibly quicker on the draw but smoother? Not so sure. Klay has an effortless shot but it's not quite as fluid, though that might be subjective. Who else is there?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:04 pm    Post subject:

Hard to know the effort invested in each shot by each player, however going solely based on what I see, it looks the most effortless of anyone I can think of. Curry is quick but it does look like he puts quite a bit of effort at times. Dlo looks like he's shooting a 3pt floater at times.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:12 pm    Post subject:

Depends on the grip on the balls in my opinion.

OK I'll take my week off for that one.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:12 pm    Post subject:

Flick of da wrist.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:14 pm    Post subject:

I'd say Curry, particularly from distance. But he's damn close.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:15 pm    Post subject:

Definitely his strongest skill.
He's skilled in multiple aspects of the game. But his shot stands out.

When I watch our games, I expect every shot to go in when he puts it up.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:19 pm    Post subject:

Lakers_Jester wrote:
Hard to know the effort invested in each shot by each player, however going solely based on what I see, it looks the most effortless of anyone I can think of. Curry is quick but it does look like he puts quite a bit of effort at times. Dlo looks like he's shooting a 3pt floater at times.


that's what the touch on his shot reminds me of. And it's funny that the OP mentioned how it comes off of DLo's fingertips/hands. His hand placement is really interesting to me and I think it factors into the amount of touch on his shot.

Look at the unique hand placement on his shot.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BLKdy6mjs45/?taken-by=dloadingdaily
https://www.instagram.com/p/BLW_udfA_dr/?taken-by=teamdangelo1 - the guide hand is a wide clawed grip. the palm is all over it on the shooting hand

https://www.instagram.com/p/BLKdusxj4GL/?taken-by=dloadingdaily
https://www.instagram.com/p/BK4PGsmDoQb/?taken-by=dloadingdaily - side of the ball.
He just gets a lot of feel and rythym with his hands

He has a short stroke and his wrist/hands do a lot of the work
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Does D'Angelo Russell have the most effortless shot release in the game?

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I don't see enough people talking about Russell's release, and I feel they should be because it's one of the things, in my mind, that makes him such a special player. I think it might be even quicker, or as quick, as Curry's release. But it's even more unguardable because DLO launches it off of his fingertips from above his head.

Am I the only one seeing this? This guy could quite possibly break the 3 point record if he gets hot one night.


Lots of guys shoot off their fingertips above their heads. You might be responding to the fact that he has long arms so his release point might be a fraction higher than other guards, though that might be mitigated by his not getting great lift on his shots. He does have a quick release and smooth form.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:27 pm    Post subject:

One thing I will say is that his shooting stance always looks very narrow, and it seems like that helps him get shots off quickly. Kind of hard to explain what I mean
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:32 pm    Post subject:

KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
Lakers_Jester wrote:
Hard to know the effort invested in each shot by each player, however going solely based on what I see, it looks the most effortless of anyone I can think of. Curry is quick but it does look like he puts quite a bit of effort at times. Dlo looks like he's shooting a 3pt floater at times.


that's what the touch on his shot reminds me of. And it's funny that the OP mentioned how it comes off of DLo's fingertips/hands. His hand placement is really interesting to me and I think it factors into the amount of touch on his shot.

Look at the unique hand placement on his shot.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BLKdy6mjs45/?taken-by=dloadingdaily
https://www.instagram.com/p/BLW_udfA_dr/?taken-by=teamdangelo1 - the guide hand is a wide clawed grip. the palm is all over it on the shooting hand

https://www.instagram.com/p/BLKdusxj4GL/?taken-by=dloadingdaily
https://www.instagram.com/p/BK4PGsmDoQb/?taken-by=dloadingdaily - side of the ball.
He just gets a lot of feel and rythym with his hands

He has a short stroke and his wrist/hands do a lot of the work
Let's try and keep this as PG as possible my dude.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:37 pm    Post subject:

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KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
Lakers_Jester wrote:
Hard to know the effort invested in each shot by each player, however going solely based on what I see, it looks the most effortless of anyone I can think of. Curry is quick but it does look like he puts quite a bit of effort at times. Dlo looks like he's shooting a 3pt floater at times.


that's what the touch on his shot reminds me of. And it's funny that the OP mentioned how it comes off of DLo's fingertips/hands. His hand placement is really interesting to me and I think it factors into the amount of touch on his shot.

Look at the unique hand placement on his shot.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BLKdy6mjs45/?taken-by=dloadingdaily
https://www.instagram.com/p/BLW_udfA_dr/?taken-by=teamdangelo1 - the guide hand is a wide clawed grip. the palm is all over it on the shooting hand

https://www.instagram.com/p/BLKdusxj4GL/?taken-by=dloadingdaily
https://www.instagram.com/p/BK4PGsmDoQb/?taken-by=dloadingdaily - side of the ball.
He just gets a lot of feel and rythym with his hands

He has a short stroke and his wrist/hands do a lot of the work
Let's try and keep this as PG as possible my dude.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:52 pm    Post subject:

He can break the three pointers record. A lot of guys can. I'm surprised that record is still at 12.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:55 pm    Post subject:

IceInMyVeins wrote:
He can break the three pointers record. A lot of guys can. I'm surprised that record is still at 12.


Lol killer username. Looks like DLO'S thing this year is "this is my shiznit"
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:55 pm    Post subject:

It's identical to Harden's shot. Kinda freaky how similar.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Does D'Angelo Russell have the most effortless shot release in the game?

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I don't see enough people talking about Russell's release, and I feel they should be because it's one of the things, in my mind, that makes him such a special player. I think it might be even quicker, or as quick, as Curry's release. But it's even more unguardable because DLO launches it off of his fingertips from above his head.

Am I the only one seeing this? This guy could quite possibly break the 3 point record if he gets hot one night.


Lots of guys shoot off their fingertips above their heads. You might be responding to the fact that he has long arms so his release point might be a fraction higher than other guards, though that might be mitigated by his not getting great lift on his shots. He does have a quick release and smooth form.


Yeah, that point was mainly in comparison to Curry.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:56 pm    Post subject:

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It's identical to Harden's shot. Kinda freaky how similar.


Better arc and less of a trebuchet motion on DLO's though.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 12:04 am    Post subject:

Russell not most effortless shot release... possible best shot release overall?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 12:15 am    Post subject:

Don Draper wrote:
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It's identical to Harden's shot. Kinda freaky how similar.


Better arc and less of a trebuchet motion on DLO's though.


Ya I don't think it's similar. imo
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:08 am    Post subject:

Flat footed arm shots tend to look effortless because it kinda is and it's also the easiest way to shoot an outside shot imo. The Down side is it's easier to defend than someone who shoots like say Klay or Clarkson. Good Ball handling/quick release is almost a necessity when you shoot like that. when The defensive intensity picks up it can be hard to get a shot like that off consistently especially without a height advantage. There Is a reason coaches teach jump shots and not flat footed shots.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:18 am    Post subject:

KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
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It's identical to Harden's shot. Kinda freaky how similar.


Better arc and less of a trebuchet motion on DLO's though.


Ya I don't think it's similar. imo



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:29 am    Post subject:

Chronicle wrote:
Russell not most effortless shot release... possible best shot release overall?


GDY! I was trying to phrase this in my head lmao.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:37 am    Post subject:

The Brain wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
Don Draper wrote:
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It's identical to Harden's shot. Kinda freaky how similar.


Better arc and less of a trebuchet motion on DLO's though.


Ya I don't think it's similar. imo




their strokes still aren't similar. Harden has way more of a dip, more cockback, a longer stroke, leaves his follow-through up longer. Also a more deliberate stance - As someone else mentioned, Russell's stance is so close and non methodical, he can just throw up a shot out of nowhere.
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