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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:49 pm    Post subject: LA HOOPS: The 2007 Plan is Dead?

Hey all - here's my latest at HOOPSWORLD.com

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Enjoy!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:56 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:58 pm    Post subject:

The worst possible news ...

What's worse than the '07 plan? The realization that there's no plan at all ...

Nice writeup, emplay.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:59 pm    Post subject:

Does this mean a blockbuster trade is coming?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:03 pm    Post subject:

Disappointing to say the least.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:04 pm    Post subject:

another KG reference?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:05 pm    Post subject:

aiel wrote:
Disappointing to say the least.


Why? this only means a blockbuster trade is coming towards our way no way do the Lakers take out the 07 plan for nothing a trade has to be brewing.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:18 pm    Post subject:

Pretty intense column, Eric. Hmmm. I do find it hard to believe there's no plan, though.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:22 pm    Post subject:

LakerJam wrote:
Pretty intense column, Eric. Hmmm. I do find it hard to believe there's no plan, though.


Same here, maybe Eric can tell us specifically why the Lakers choose to do this.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:22 pm    Post subject:

Nice article. But what the heck was Mitch offering when he called up about Frye? It couldn't be DG, Slava and the Miami pick? If that's what he's offering the dude should be fired for being a joke. Why not offer up Sasha and a pick for Chris Paul then.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:22 pm    Post subject:

this is starting to become worrisome, are we done for the remainder of this decade as a contender? Or do we have direction? This coming offseason will answer many questions, if so what is phil doing here at 10 million a year? A diversion for the common fans maybe?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:27 pm    Post subject:

We're not getting anyone.

OT: But does anyone believe in subliminal messages.

PLEASE LET US GET KG!!! PLEASE LET US GET KG!!!!


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:27 pm    Post subject:

DaggerInTheHeart wrote:
aiel wrote:
Disappointing to say the least.


Why? this only means a blockbuster trade is coming towards our way no way do the Lakers take out the 07 plan for nothing a trade has to be brewing.


That article doesn't hint at a blockbuster trade, but suggest smaller deals.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:28 pm    Post subject:

Specifically here's what i got out of the article.

Kwame's option has been added to 3 years there is no more 07 plans which means either

1. ( we have another plan on a different year )

2. ( we have a trade in place that will take us over the top and the Lakers know it will happen )

3. ( they thought the 07 plan was a waste of time )

Thats what i got out of it.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:29 pm    Post subject:

The article is intentionally vague in that area - it's not worth the flak - and frankly writing about a deal too early can complicate things.

Let's just see what happens - the likelihood of ANY trade going through is always low.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:29 pm    Post subject:

aiel wrote:
That article doesn't hint at a blockbuster trade, but suggest smaller deals.


It doesn't have to all you have to do is read between the lines.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:30 pm    Post subject:

Kwame could be used simply as a roleplayer or filler in a sign-and-trade in 2007 as an expiring contract. Bosh, KG or LeBron would have to threaten Toronto, Minnesota, and Cleveland management - "Trade me to LA, or I will take the qualifying offer and sign with them anyway in 2008." If somebody actually follows through, Kwame would be off the books and either could be signed outright. With the QO, LeBron or Bosh would be UFA's, and KG has his ETO then.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:34 pm    Post subject:

^ How will they reason with everyone as too y phil was here for the "garbage period" and not here for the "return to dominace period". Makes less and less sense, y would u not have the greates finisher here to star another run?

A trade is looking like the only obvious answer from here onward. Maybe the lakers are seeing all these all stars becoming available in recent times since the shaq trade and knowing an opputrunity will arise soon. I mean, tmac,francis,marbury,A.I,garnett,K-mart,peirce,artest,J.O,...list goes on. The lakers are banking Heavily i mean heavily on bynum if this is the direction their going on...Bynum,Mihm, kobe as keepers potentially. Brown,Odom as trade bait ?? to bring in role players, and thos two are more than enough too fill out a roster through trades.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:39 pm    Post subject:

Is there any reason why the Lakers will take off the 2007 plan? it just doesn't make sense to me nor does it to any other Laker fan probably i really wanna know why the Lakers choose to do this and make Kobe's prime years suffer more.

there has to be a trade in place or else this Organization is turing into a nightmare.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:54 pm    Post subject:

A wise man (you could even go so far as to call him a wizard) once said "Never mistake activity for progress".
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:14 am    Post subject:

I would be all for a Sasha+Odom for KMart + Miller trade. It would involve Melo switching to the 2 maybe, or Odom playing the 4, but either way, I think it might be a good trade for both sides.

I don't see how else we can replace Odom's rebounding and facilitatoring other than a 1 for 2.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:16 am    Post subject:

nobody should be alarmed by this. the 07 plan became dead the day amare/yao re-upped. that day it became the 08 plan.

if the lakers see a player that they can get to win now, they will abandon the plan...if not...they will wait.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:19 am    Post subject:

The 2007 plan was still alive when Amare and Yao re-upped with there teams.

unless it was dead why would Eric tell us now?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:31 am    Post subject:

I'm happy with this. We have flexibility still, and if Kwame doesn't improve, he becomes a tradeable asset. I think this thinking from the Lakers part comes from seeing Bynum as a hit in the draft, and not a miss. Kobe/Bynum are our building blocks to roll off a title run or two, and Odom/Kwame are loose ends which could go one way or another.

Kobe/Bynum/Odom/Kwame/Pure Shooter is a really good team down the road, with Kobe and Bynum as the 1-2 punch, Odom giving his stat sheet stuff and Kwame post defense and some offense. Shooter is KEY on this team, and always will be. If Odom and/or Kwame don't fit, they can be moved for a very good player, especially contractually, and we are still set.

I think it's a win/win, but I'm not thinking about NOW, but for a long-term future. As in, title contention for years, not playoff contention as we are currently aligned to have.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:44 am    Post subject: Two players away

Magic is right...we are two players away. One good player, and one role player. Their names are Brevin Knight and Melvin Ely, and we could have them if we throw out enough picks, cash, and contracts.

Let's do it.

Knight gives us fire, and a steady PG. Who cares how short he is?

And Ely gives us a scoring presence in the paint, and a steady rebounder, so that we keep the pressure off Kwame so he doesn't crack before he blossoms.
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