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vanexelent Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:05 am Post subject: |
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The video of Trump denying that McCain was a war hero for being caught should make it's rounds today. |
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angrypuppy Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:57 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | Mueller Expands Probe to Trump Business Transactions
The U.S. special counsel investigating possible ties between the Donald Trump campaign and Russia in last year’s election is examining a broad range of transactions involving Trump’s businesses as well as those of his associates, according to a person familiar with the probe.
The president told the New York Times on Wednesday that any digging into matters beyond Russia would be out of bounds. Trump’s businesses have involved Russians for years, making the boundaries fuzzy so Special Counsel Robert Mueller appears to be taking a wide-angle approach to his two-month-old probe.
FBI investigators and others are looking at Russian purchases of apartments in Trump buildings, Trump’s involvement in a controversial SoHo development with Russian associates, the 2013 Miss Universe pageant in Moscow and Trump’s sale of a Florida mansion to a Russian oligarch in 2008, the person said. |
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-20/mueller-is-said-to-expand-probe-to-trump-business-transactions
This explains why Trump flamed Sessions. Mueller is closing in on the truth. |
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:32 am Post subject: |
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"Crooked Hillary! Nasty woman! Dirty business! Pay for play!"
"Oh, no no, investigating me is a witch hunt!" _________________ Courage doesn't always roar.
Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying...'I will try again tomorrow.' |
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Hector the Pup Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:59 am Post subject: |
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angrypuppy wrote: | Quote: | Mueller Expands Probe to Trump Business Transactions
The U.S. special counsel investigating possible ties between the Donald Trump campaign and Russia in last year’s election is examining a broad range of transactions involving Trump’s businesses as well as those of his associates, according to a person familiar with the probe.
The president told the New York Times on Wednesday that any digging into matters beyond Russia would be out of bounds. Trump’s businesses have involved Russians for years, making the boundaries fuzzy so Special Counsel Robert Mueller appears to be taking a wide-angle approach to his two-month-old probe.
FBI investigators and others are looking at Russian purchases of apartments in Trump buildings, Trump’s involvement in a controversial SoHo development with Russian associates, the 2013 Miss Universe pageant in Moscow and Trump’s sale of a Florida mansion to a Russian oligarch in 2008, the person said. |
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-20/mueller-is-said-to-expand-probe-to-trump-business-transactions
This explains why Trump flamed Sessions. Mueller is closing in on the truth. |
He might already be there. He was looking at Kaveladze a few days before it came out that he was the 8th person in the meeting with Jr. |
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:30 am Post subject: |
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Mueller is on his ass. The man is going to go down in disgrace. _________________ Nobody in the NBA can touch the Laker brand, which, like the uniform color, is pure gold. |
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DuncanIdaho Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:28 am Post subject: |
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angrypuppy wrote: | Quote: | Mueller Expands Probe to Trump Business Transactions
The U.S. special counsel investigating possible ties between the Donald Trump campaign and Russia in last year’s election is examining a broad range of transactions involving Trump’s businesses as well as those of his associates, according to a person familiar with the probe.
The president told the New York Times on Wednesday that any digging into matters beyond Russia would be out of bounds. Trump’s businesses have involved Russians for years, making the boundaries fuzzy so Special Counsel Robert Mueller appears to be taking a wide-angle approach to his two-month-old probe.
FBI investigators and others are looking at Russian purchases of apartments in Trump buildings, Trump’s involvement in a controversial SoHo development with Russian associates, the 2013 Miss Universe pageant in Moscow and Trump’s sale of a Florida mansion to a Russian oligarch in 2008, the person said. |
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-20/mueller-is-said-to-expand-probe-to-trump-business-transactions
This explains why Trump flamed Sessions. Mueller is closing in on the truth. |
2008 huh? Guess this Russian collusion goes back a while. |
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Hector the Pup Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:49 am Post subject: |
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Fake news! Trump never had any dealings with Russia! He didn't even know it was a country until he became president! He can't even spell Russia!
(okay, that last one might actually be true) |
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vanexelent Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:52 am Post subject: |
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/team-trump-used-obamacare-money-to-run-ads-against-it?source=twitter&via=mobile
Team Trump Used Obamacare Money to Run PR Effort Against It
Quote: | The Trump administration has spent taxpayer money meant to encourage enrollment in the Affordable Care Act on a public relations campaign aimed at methodically strangling it.
The effort, which involves a multi-pronged social media push as well as video testimonials designed at damaging public opinion of President Obama’s health care law, is far more robust and sustained than has been publicly revealed or realized. |
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ContagiousInspiration Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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Hector the Pup wrote: | Fake news! Trump never had any dealings with Russia! He didn't even know it was a country until he became president! He can't even spell Russia!
(okay, that last one might actually be true) |
Saw it reported on Brietbart that Trump called Sara Palin to find out where Russia even is |
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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Earth calling Donald, Earth calling Donald, come in Donald!
This is not Russia. You're alienating one of your strongest supporters. If you fire Mueller Congress will hire their own counsel and it will then just be a matter of time.
TRUMP WARNS MUELLER AGAINST INVESTIGATION, SHARES ANGER AT SESSIONS AND COMEY IN NYT INTERVIEW
LINK _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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ChefLinda Moderator
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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DuncanIdaho wrote: | angrypuppy wrote: | Quote: | Mueller Expands Probe to Trump Business Transactions
The U.S. special counsel investigating possible ties between the Donald Trump campaign and Russia in last year’s election is examining a broad range of transactions involving Trump’s businesses as well as those of his associates, according to a person familiar with the probe.
The president told the New York Times on Wednesday that any digging into matters beyond Russia would be out of bounds. Trump’s businesses have involved Russians for years, making the boundaries fuzzy so Special Counsel Robert Mueller appears to be taking a wide-angle approach to his two-month-old probe.
FBI investigators and others are looking at Russian purchases of apartments in Trump buildings, Trump’s involvement in a controversial SoHo development with Russian associates, the 2013 Miss Universe pageant in Moscow and Trump’s sale of a Florida mansion to a Russian oligarch in 2008, the person said. |
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-20/mueller-is-said-to-expand-probe-to-trump-business-transactions
This explains why Trump flamed Sessions. Mueller is closing in on the truth. |
2008 huh? Guess this Russian collusion goes back a while. |
If Russians have leverage over Trump because of shady past business dealings, then that leverage is relevant TODAY. Doesn't matter if it started in 2008 or 2016. If Russians used economic leverage over Trump during campaign to elicit political gifts favorable toward Russia, then Mueller has a duty to investigate.
In fact, Russia could still be using leverage over Trump as he sits in the oval office. Could be illegal financial shenanigans from the past, embarrassing tapes, whatever. Surely you want Mueller/FBI/Congress to discover so we don't have person susceptible to blackmail making decisions based on his own interests rather than the interests of the United States? |
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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jodeke wrote: | Earth calling Donald, Earth calling Donald, come in Donald!
This is not Russia. You're alienating one of your strongest supporters. If you fire Mueller Congress will hire their own counsel and it will then just be a matter of time.
TRUMP WARNS MUELLER AGAINST INVESTIGATION, SHARES ANGER AT SESSIONS AND COMEY IN NYT INTERVIEW
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Orange Devil Troll is Col. Jessup.
Mueller: Did you launder Russian money through your real estate properties, Mr. Trump??
ODT: YOU (bleep) RIGHT I DID!!!! _________________ So glad we gave you your flowers while you were here, Kobe. |
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Hector the Pup Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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Ready for some fun?
Quote: | Among the many mysteries surrounding Donald Trump’s finances as a real-estate mogul—and the conflicts of interest that might be revealed by his tax returns, were he ever to release them—is his long history of debt. The issue is not merely what Trump owes, but who he owes. As critics noted on the campaign trail, Trump’s habit of reneging on contracts and suing his lenders meant that virtually nobody on Wall Street wanted to work with him, with one exception: Deutsche Bank, which had loaned him hundreds of millions of dollars when no one else would, even after he sued the firm. Now, investigators probing the ties between the Trump campaign and Russia are wondering why—and they’re beginning to take a closer look at the president’s accounts with his favorite bank, which also happens to have strong ties to Russia itself.
The New York Times reports that banking regulators are currently “reviewing hundreds of millions of dollars in loans made to Mr. Trump’s businesses through Deutsche Bank’s private wealth management unit . . . to [see] if the loans might expose the bank to heightened risk.” Meanwhile, the Guardian reports that executives at Deutsche are “expecting that the bank will soon be receiving subpoenas or other requests for information from Robert Mueller,” and that the special counsel’s investigative team and the bank have “already established informal contact in connection to the federal investigation.” |
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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vanexelent wrote: | http://www.thedailybeast.com/team-trump-used-obamacare-money-to-run-ads-against-it?source=twitter&via=mobile
Team Trump Used Obamacare Money to Run PR Effort Against It
Quote: | The Trump administration has spent taxpayer money meant to encourage enrollment in the Affordable Care Act on a public relations campaign aimed at methodically strangling it.
The effort, which involves a multi-pronged social media push as well as video testimonials designed at damaging public opinion of President Obama’s health care law, is far more robust and sustained than has been publicly revealed or realized. |
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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governator wrote: | vanexelent wrote: | http://www.thedailybeast.com/team-trump-used-obamacare-money-to-run-ads-against-it?source=twitter&via=mobile
Team Trump Used Obamacare Money to Run PR Effort Against It
Quote: | The Trump administration has spent taxpayer money meant to encourage enrollment in the Affordable Care Act on a public relations campaign aimed at methodically strangling it.
The effort, which involves a multi-pronged social media push as well as video testimonials designed at damaging public opinion of President Obama’s health care law, is far more robust and sustained than has been publicly revealed or realized. |
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Trump reminds me of our police officers. He does what he wants with no consequences. Until he's held accountable he's going to continue to do as he chooses. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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jodeke wrote: | governator wrote: | vanexelent wrote: | http://www.thedailybeast.com/team-trump-used-obamacare-money-to-run-ads-against-it?source=twitter&via=mobile
Team Trump Used Obamacare Money to Run PR Effort Against It
Quote: | The Trump administration has spent taxpayer money meant to encourage enrollment in the Affordable Care Act on a public relations campaign aimed at methodically strangling it.
The effort, which involves a multi-pronged social media push as well as video testimonials designed at damaging public opinion of President Obama’s health care law, is far more robust and sustained than has been publicly revealed or realized. |
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Trump reminds me of our police officers. He does what he wants with no consequences. Until he's held accountable he's going to continue to do as he chooses. |
I said it before, this is a cult, millions of brainwashed Trump supporters. I don't know at this point if anything would change their mind |
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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Wash Post: Trump Legal Team Exploring President's Ability to Pardon Aides.
He is reportedly interested in pardoning his family members, aides, and even himself.
He started panicking when he heard that Mueller is interested in his tax returns. _________________ ¡Hala Madrid! |
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SweetP Star Player
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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Trump is asking about his pardon powers for his aides, his family and himself
Quote: | A president can pardon an individual at any point, including before being charged with a crime, and the scope of a presidential pardon can be very broad. President Gerald Ford pardoned former president Richard M. Nixon preemptively for offenses he “committed or may have committed” while in office. |
Also Trump's lawyers trying to find if there are ways to undercut or limit Muller's investigations.
Quote: | Trump has been fuming about the probe in recent weeks as he has been informed about the legal questions that he and his family could face. His primary frustration centers on why allegations that his campaign coordinated with Russia should spread into scrutinizing many years of Trump dealmaking. He has told aides he was especially disturbed after learning Mueller would be able to access several years of his tax returns. |
_________________ “There is always light if only we're brave enough to see it, if only we're brave enough to be it.” --Amanda Gorman |
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SweetP Star Player
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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More from the WaPo article
Quote: | With the Russia investigation continuing to widen, Trump’s lawyers are working to corral the probe and question the propriety of the special counsel’s work. They are actively compiling a list of Mueller’s alleged potential conflicts of interest, which they say could serve as a way to stymie his work, according to several of Trump’s legal advisers. A conflict of interest is one of the possible grounds that can be cited by an attorney general to remove a special counsel from office under Justice Department regulations that set rules for the job. |
That's why Trump is trying to force Sessions out, since Sessions is recused, he cannot remove Muller. Trump wants a toady that will be able to remove Muller on some specious charges of conflict of interest. _________________ “There is always light if only we're brave enough to see it, if only we're brave enough to be it.” --Amanda Gorman |
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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The spokesman for Trump's outside counsel has resigned. Not a huge deal, but it could be an indication that his legal team is losing patience with him. _________________ ¡Hala Madrid! |
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SweetP Star Player
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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Wilt wrote: | The spokesman for Trump's outside counsel has resigned. Not a huge deal, but it could be an indication that his legal team is losing patience with him. |
And his former lead attorney Mark Kasowitz is "taking a significantly reduced role". _________________ “There is always light if only we're brave enough to see it, if only we're brave enough to be it.” --Amanda Gorman |
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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6 months in and we're already at the, "HOW SOON CAN I PARDON MY FAMILY, MY STAFF, EVERYONE I LIKE, AND CAN I PARDON MYSELF?!?!" and "HOW CAN I FIRE MUELLER AND GET AWAY WITH IT?" stage.
Worst. President. Ever. |
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SweetP Star Player
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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ChefLinda wrote: | 6 months in and we're already at the, "HOW SOON CAN I PARDON MY FAMILY, MY STAFF, EVERYONE I LIKE, AND CAN I PARDON MYSELF?!?!" and "HOW CAN I FIRE MUELLER AND GET AWAY WITH IT?" stage.
Worst. President. Ever. |
On so many levels.
Read someplace yesterday that not only has he appointed a very conservative supreme court justice, he is appointing tons of (relatively young, average age like 45) very conservative lower level judges. Who will drive how our court system operates for at least a generation or even two.
Here's the link
Quote: | Progressives breathed a sigh of relief recently when Justice Anthony M. Kennedy decided to remain on the Supreme Court for presumably at least one more year. But no matter how long Kennedy stays, a massive transformation is underway in how our fundamental rights are defined by the federal judiciary. For while President Trump is incompetent at countless aspects of his job, he is proving wildly successful in one respect: naming youthful conservative nominees to the federal bench in record-setting numbers. |
Quote: | He not only put Neil M. Gorsuch in the Supreme Court vacancy created by Merrick Garland’s blocked confirmation, but he also selected 27 lower-court judges as of mid-July. Twenty-seven! That’s three times Obama’s total and more than double the totals of Reagan, Bush 41 and Clinton — combined. For the Courts of Appeals — the final authority for 95 percent of federal cases — no president before Trump named more than three judges whose nominations were processed in his first six months; Trump has named nine. Trump is on pace to more than double the number of federal judges nominated by any president in his first year. |
_________________ “There is always light if only we're brave enough to see it, if only we're brave enough to be it.” --Amanda Gorman
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