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hoopschick29 Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:32 am Post subject: |
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Hector the Pup wrote: | jodeke wrote: |
The bill is still up in the air. McCain said he would not vote for the bill as is. When it hits the floor with changes if he votes for a lousy plan I'll redirect. |
You either haven't been watching the news or you simply do not understand what is happening.
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McCain dramatically returned to the Capitol on Tuesday, just days after announcing he has brain cancer, to vote in favor of advancing the GOP's ObamaCare repeal bill. Hours later, he voted yes on a final vote for the bill, which failed 43-57 despite his support. |
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THEY HAD A VOTE ON THE SAME BILL THAT FAILED BEFORE. THE EXACT SAME BILL. HE VOTED YES. THAT HAPPENED LAST NIGHT.
HE VOTED TO ADVANCE THE BILL FIRST. THEN HE VOTED FOR THE BILL. |
I looked at the list of Republicans who voted no. John McCain was not on that list.
Quote: | Republicans who voted to reject their party's repeal-and-replace plan were Collins, Murkowski, and Sens. Rand Paul of Kentucky, Bob Corker of Tennessee, Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, Dean Heller of Nevada, Jerry Moran of Kansas, Tom Cotton of Arkansas and Mike Lee of Utah. |
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/25/obamacare-repeal-vote-senate-republicans-240926
This idea that McCain is a 'Maverick' who will go against his party is a MYTH. This man, who has had free and taxpayer-funded healthcare his ENTIRE LIFE, has BRAIN CANCER which will probably knock him into the Lake of Fire within the next 3 months is supporting leaving millions of Americans without adequate means to get medical help. He is just like the other soul-less devils he caucuses with...'I got mine, screw the rest of you!' _________________ So glad we gave you your flowers while you were here, Kobe. |
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jodeke Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:43 am Post subject: |
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Hector the Pup wrote: | jodeke wrote: |
The bill is still up in the air. McCain said he would not vote for the bill as is. When it hits the floor with changes if he votes for a lousy plan I'll redirect. |
You either haven't been watching the news or you simply do not understand what is happening.
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McCain dramatically returned to the Capitol on Tuesday, just days after announcing he has brain cancer, to vote in favor of advancing the GOP's ObamaCare repeal bill. Hours later, he voted yes on a final vote for the bill, which failed 43-57 despite his support. |
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THEY HAD A VOTE ON THE SAME BILL THAT FAILED BEFORE. THE EXACT SAME BILL. HE VOTED YES. THAT HAPPENED LAST NIGHT.
HE VOTED TO ADVANCE THE BILL FIRST. THEN HE VOTED FOR THE BILL. |
I may be confused, this is why? Quote: | In a floor speech after the first vote, McCain said he would oppose the legislation in its current form when it comes time for final passage and called it a “shell of a bill,” adding that the Senate Health Committee should hold hearings on the legislation | I'm deciphering, I think I finally got it. He voted for passage as is but hopes for tweaking at the next level. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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Hector the Pup Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:48 am Post subject: |
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Nope. First they put the exact same bill up for a vote again. He voted yes.
Just to clarify, he voted yes on a bill that he said he would not vote yes on a few hours earlier. Generally, that would be called lying. That would be called being an absolute hypocrite.
Actually, scrap that. That is just called being a lying hypocrite.
Bottom line, McCain is a spineless lying hypocrite. |
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jodeke Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:01 am Post subject: |
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Hector the Pup wrote: | Nope. First they put the exact same bill up for a vote again. He voted yes.
Just to clarify, he voted yes on a bill that he said he would not vote yes on a few hours earlier. Generally, that would be called lying. That would be called being an absolute hypocrite.
Actually, scrap that. That is just called being a lying hypocrite.
Bottom line, McCain is a spineless lying hypocrite. |
That part I got. Where I paused was thinking he's looking for some changes in the bill at the next level. I get your hypocrite because he said he'd not vote for it at this stage.
OK, OK, I was duped. Thanks Hector. It's so nice to get to the bottom of things civilly. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
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Huskers Starting Rotation
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:02 am Post subject: |
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Not to be too cruel, but with brain cancer, is McCain considered mentally competent enough to vote? It's too late now, but should he even be allowed to vote?
Quote: | However, the problem of impaired decisional capacity in brain tumors is underrecognized, despite specific evidence showing high rates of incapacity, at least in patients with malignant tumors. |
http://www.neurology.org/content/83/6/482.short |
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:20 am Post subject: |
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Hector the Pup wrote: | Nope. First they put the exact same bill up for a vote again. He voted yes.
Just to clarify, he voted yes on a bill that he said he would not vote yes on a few hours earlier. Generally, that would be called lying. That would be called being an absolute hypocrite.
Actually, scrap that. That is just called being a lying hypocrite.
Bottom line, McCain is a spineless lying hypocrite. |
I like the line he threw in about "returning to regular order".
Bish, aint nothing about this whole process has been regular order. If you had any stones you would have left those a-holes hanging and not cast a vote for a MTP.
FOH John. _________________ *sighs*
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:26 am Post subject: |
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I think the state McCain is in he could be vulnerable to manipulation on how to vote. You know there are people writing and preparing his statements. He is just reading them. _________________ Nobody in the NBA can touch the Laker brand, which, like the uniform color, is pure gold. |
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lakersken80 Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:39 am Post subject: |
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Dunno why some people think McCain was going to have an existential awakening because he had a medical emergency. His policy positions are pretty clear to those who follow him throughout his career. |
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AY2043 Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:53 am Post subject: |
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lakersken80 wrote: | Dunno why some people think McCain was going to have an existential awakening because he had a medical emergency. His policy positions are pretty clear to those who follow him throughout his career. |
I don't think anyone expected him to vote "no" on the first measure they voted on yesterday afternoon.
But he explicitly said in his speech "I. WILL. NOT. VOTE. FOR. THIS. BILL. AS. IT. STANDS. RIGHT. NOW." And then he voted yes last night. |
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:27 am Post subject: |
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Huskers wrote: | Not to be too cruel, but with brain cancer, is McCain considered mentally competent enough to vote? It's too late now, but should he even be allowed to vote?
Quote: | However, the problem of impaired decisional capacity in brain tumors is underrecognized, despite specific evidence showing high rates of incapacity, at least in patients with malignant tumors. |
http://www.neurology.org/content/83/6/482.short |
He wasn't mentally competent before the tumor. See selection of Sarah Pissbrain Palin as VP pick. _________________ GOAT MAGIC REEL
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:43 am Post subject: |
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We were out here praying for John McCain to beat cancer. Little did we know. McCain's cancer was trying to save all of us. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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Trump banned transgender service members to secure funding to build border wall, Politico reports _________________ Nobody in the NBA can touch the Laker brand, which, like the uniform color, is pure gold. |
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ContagiousInspiration Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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32 wrote: | Gabriel Sherman @gabrielsherman
Trump banned transgender service members to secure funding to build border wall, Politico reports |
As soon as they begin building it his whole family should have their citizenship revoked and shipped to Mexico.
All of his assets inside the United States shall be confiscated and shutdown
Any loans or taxes owed to US citizens or the Govt. will be paid through the sale of said properties.
Nobody from his family will ever be allowed to enter America again. |
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jodeke Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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No other president has ever done any where near what we've done in his first six month.
Donald J Trump
Man ya got dat right. You just don't know how right.
No president has done anywhere near what you've done to destroy democracy and our country in his first six months or his entire term or two. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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Buck32 Star Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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kikanga wrote: | We were out here praying for John McCain to beat cancer. Little did we know. McCain's cancer was trying to save all of us. |
At least that's one less soulless and evil man to be angry about. He may have served his country as a soldier but that doesn't mean (bleep) now that he's supporting the idiot president. The same president who called him a loser for getting captured. _________________ “Properly read, the bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived.”
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hoopschick29 Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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Buck32 wrote: | kikanga wrote: | We were out here praying for John McCain to beat cancer. Little did we know. McCain's cancer was trying to save all of us. |
At least that's one less soulless and evil man to be angry about. He may have served his country as a soldier but that doesn't mean (bleep) now that he's supporting the idiot president. The same president who called him a loser for getting captured. |
Ted Kennedy, same kind of brain cancer, worked to his dying days for the least among us. He fought for Americans' right to decent healthcare. The Lakes of Fire await John McCain. _________________ So glad we gave you your flowers while you were here, Kobe. |
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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kikanga wrote: | We were out here praying for John McCain to beat cancer. Little did we know. McCain's cancer was trying to save all of us. |
_________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
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Man, do those lyrics resonate right now |
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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Unfortunately, he is correct. Same for gender identity or gender expression. California law is way ahead of federal law in this regard, as is typically the case. _________________ LakersGround's Terms of Service
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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Are we great again or what? |
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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The Lebrons wrote: | Are we great again or what? |
I'm tired of all of this winning. _________________ ¡Hala Madrid! |
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lakerjoshua Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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Wilt wrote: | The Lebrons wrote: | Are we great again or what? |
I'm tired of all of this winning. |
Yeah, I'm tired too.. |
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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My respect for John McCain aside, you have to call out BS. His yes vote on the actual bill (not for advancing the debate) is extremely disappointing. There's just no way to sugarcoat that. Heck, even Cotton voted no. |
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Latest WH news: The Mooch wants Preibus investigated for leaking his financial information. _________________ ¡Hala Madrid! |
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