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ChefLinda Moderator
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This is barbaric. This is what institutional misogyny/sexism looks like.
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ChefLinda wrote: | This is barbaric. This is what institutional misogyny/sexism looks like.
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I so don't understand this leadership take Republicans have where they are trying to actively hurt as many people as possible. If you are not white male, you get hurt. Severely hurt. _________________ Courage doesn't always roar.
Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying...'I will try again tomorrow.' |
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ChefLinda Moderator
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20,000 wrote: | ChefLinda wrote: | This is barbaric. This is what institutional misogyny/sexism looks like.
Quote: | Andy SlavittVerified account @ASlavitt
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I so don't understand this leadership take Republicans have where they are trying to actively hurt as many people as possible. If you are not white male, you get hurt. Severely hurt. |
They must think gerrymandering, voter suppression and more facebook propaganda shields them from the voter's wrath in 2018. Also, apparently the Koch Brothers are threatening to withhold all campaign donations to GOP until they repeal Obamacare and cut taxes for the rich. Talk about a quid pro quo. |
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20,000 wrote: | ChefLinda wrote: | This is barbaric. This is what institutional misogyny/sexism looks like.
Quote: | Andy SlavittVerified account @ASlavitt
NEW: What would Graham-Cassidy ACA repeal mean for women? |
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I so don't understand this leadership take Republicans have where they are trying to actively hurt as many people as possible. If you are not white male, you get hurt. Severely hurt. | The funny thing is a lot of lower middle class and poor white males are getting hurt too. Women will always take the harder fall since men run the show. and men in general dont care that much about women(their mothers, their sisters, their wives, their aunts). They will say they do out of their mouths but time and time again you see they dont really care with their actions. |
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20,000 wrote: | ChefLinda wrote: | This is barbaric. This is what institutional misogyny/sexism looks like.
Quote: | Andy SlavittVerified account @ASlavitt
NEW: What would Graham-Cassidy ACA repeal mean for women? |
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I so don't understand this leadership take Republicans have where they are trying to actively hurt as many people as possible. If you are not white male, you get hurt. Severely hurt. |
The GOP believes that men are superior, whites are the makers and holders of American values, that the poor are poor because they are defective, and thus are not worthy of assistance, and that if they blame everything on dark skinned people and coastal city folk who believe stupid (bleep) like science, they can get enough of the poor they are (bleep) over to vote to keep them in office. They are apparently pretty right about the last part, even if they have to rig the system to keep the opposition votes down as well. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel |
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splashmtn wrote: | DuncanIdaho wrote: | ChefLinda wrote: | DuncanIdaho wrote: | Not saying the tactic Trump is taking is the right one, but what we've done since Clinton hasn't exactly worked swimmingly, has it?
So what's the solution? It's obvious, barring a huge trade war, that our efforts to put pressure on China have done absolutely nothing. |
What you don't do is throw gasoline on the dumpster fire, pound your chest like a gorilla and embarrass yourself and the nation on the world stage. How about we start with that?
And how about we actually fill the empty ambassador positions in South Korea and other Asian countries? And how about we not gut the state department so that we have no knowledge base or experience and no diplomats left to establish diplomacy?
How about we start there instead of putting ourselves in a bigger hole? |
That sounds like a great idea.
But just to be clear, we had filled ambassador positions and diplomats last administration, handled NK with as much dignity as can possibly be expected, and they STILL pursued nuclear arms and we're now in a much worse place.
So yes, we should do what you say, but it isn't the answer. Diplomacy DOES NOT WORK WITH NORTH KOREA. I don't know what the answer is, honestly. I don't envy the people making these decisions.
We've been doing the same thing administration after administration, and have been getting the same results. If it doesn't work on the first, second, third or fourth time, maybe it'll work on the fifth? |
What do you do, when you have a regime, thats sitting right next to your ally(N.korea) and ear shot of your other ally(japan)? while also have a bunch of citizens that have been held hostage basically and brainwashed?
Do you bomb them until you can't see anything but rubble? and pray that no missilles or tanks, troops, get across their border to S.korea? or hope they dont launch a nuke into japan? or any of our other island countries the US holds up?
NK will lose any war it wages. thats not the point. the point is, its a lose lose. all wars are. but the original gulf war by technical war terms was a win. nobody got hurt(in the grand scheme of things..early on during the original bombing campaign.) their soldiers surrendering which was a surprise to all of us. can we expect that with NK? maybe. then here comes to humanitarian issue with the people fleeing into S.korea and china.
just the casualties alone would be something we've never seen in modern times before. |
I'm starting to think the US is determined to take NK and unify it with the south. But the ultimate prize is not NK at all but it's neighbor to the north. It's a goal of complete containment. Just can't believe millions of lives in north and South Korea will be put in danger to do this. |
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Jimmy Kimmel: The voice of the people. 2017. |
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No one likes this health kill bill
Insurers Come Out Swinging Against New Republican Health Care Bill
WASHINGTON — The health insurance industry, after cautiously watching Republican health care efforts for months, came out forcefully on Wednesday against the Senate’s latest bill to repeal the Affordable Care Act, suggesting that its state-by-state block grants could create health care chaos in the short term and a Balkanized, uncertain insurance market.
In the face of the industry opposition, Senate Republican leaders nevertheless said they would push for a showdown vote next week on the legislation, drafted by Senators Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Bill Cassidy of Louisiana.
That puts Republican senators in a squeeze, especially those whose states would lose money under a complicated formula in the bill. Generally, it would shift federal funds away from states that have been successful in expanding coverage to states where Republican leaders refused to expand Medicaid or encourage enrollment. _________________ Courage doesn't always roar.
Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying...'I will try again tomorrow.' |
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Doctors to Congress: NO!
Quote: | Today, America’s major physician organizations are recommending something, strongly and in unison: The latest health-care bill, known as Graham-Cassidy, would do harm to the country and should be defeated.
Coalitions of health professionals that have spoken publicly against the measure so far include the American Medical Association (“Provisions violate longstanding AMA policy”), the American Psychiatric Association (“This bill harms our most vulnerable patients”), the American Public Health Association (“Graham-Cassidy would devastate the Medicaid program, increase out-of-pocket costs, and weaken or eliminate protections for people living with preexisting conditions”), the National Institute for Reproductive Health (“the Graham-Cassidy bill preys on underserved communities ... a clear and present danger”), and Federation of American Hospitals (“It could disrupt access to health care for millions of the more than 70 million Americans”).
This is in addition to the American Academy of Pediatrics, Association of American Medical Colleges, American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, and many others. |
_________________ Courage doesn't always roar.
Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying...'I will try again tomorrow.' |
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20,000 wrote: | No one likes this health kill bill
Insurers Come Out Swinging Against New Republican Health Care Bill
WASHINGTON — The health insurance industry, after cautiously watching Republican health care efforts for months, came out forcefully on Wednesday against the Senate’s latest bill to repeal the Affordable Care Act, suggesting that its state-by-state block grants could create health care chaos in the short term and a Balkanized, uncertain insurance market.
In the face of the industry opposition, Senate Republican leaders nevertheless said they would push for a showdown vote next week on the legislation, drafted by Senators Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Bill Cassidy of Louisiana.
That puts Republican senators in a squeeze, especially those whose states would lose money under a complicated formula in the bill. Generally, it would shift federal funds away from states that have been successful in expanding coverage to states where Republican leaders refused to expand Medicaid or encourage enrollment. |
If this thing fails again, Republicans in Congress had better be prepared for Trump's twitter wrath. They'll look so weak and he's gong to twist that knife. |
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vanexelent wrote: | 20,000 wrote: | No one likes this health kill bill
Insurers Come Out Swinging Against New Republican Health Care Bill
WASHINGTON — The health insurance industry, after cautiously watching Republican health care efforts for months, came out forcefully on Wednesday against the Senate’s latest bill to repeal the Affordable Care Act, suggesting that its state-by-state block grants could create health care chaos in the short term and a Balkanized, uncertain insurance market.
In the face of the industry opposition, Senate Republican leaders nevertheless said they would push for a showdown vote next week on the legislation, drafted by Senators Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Bill Cassidy of Louisiana.
That puts Republican senators in a squeeze, especially those whose states would lose money under a complicated formula in the bill. Generally, it would shift federal funds away from states that have been successful in expanding coverage to states where Republican leaders refused to expand Medicaid or encourage enrollment. |
If this thing fails again, Republicans in Congress had better be prepared for Trump's twitter wrath. They'll look so weak and he's gong to twist that knife. |
That's what they ought to be concerned with? _________________ Courage doesn't always roar.
Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying...'I will try again tomorrow.' |
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Quote: | Trump announces new sanctions on North Korea
President Trump on Thursday signed an executive order imposing new sanctions on North Korea as the U.S. and its allies sought to ramp up pressure on Kim Jong Un to abandon his nuclear ambitions.
Speaking at the United Nations before a working lunch with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and South Korean President Moon Jae-in, two key allies in the region, Trump said the order would significantly expand the U.S. ability to crack down on individuals and companies that do business with North Korea.
The president said he had empowered the Treasury Department to “target any individual or entity that conducts trade in goods, services or technology” with the country. The order also includes measures designed to “disrupt critical North Korean shipping and trade networks.”
Flanked at a table by Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, Vice President Pence, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Nikki Haley, Trump expressed an urgency to curb North Korea’s nuclear and ballistics programs.
“North Korea's missiles and weapons development is a grave threat to peace and security in our world, and it is unacceptable that others financially support this criminal rogue regime,” Trump said. “The brutal North Korean regime does not respect its own citizens or the sovereignty of other nations. A new executive order will cut off sources of revenue that fund North Korea's efforts to develop the deadliest weapons known to human kind.”
The announcement immediately raised questions about the impact on China, which is North Korea’s largest trading partner.
“I want to be clear the order targets only one country — that country is North Korea,” Trump said.
The president announced that he had “heard moments ago” that the Chinese had told their central bank to “immediately stop doing business with North Korea.”
“I want to thank President Xi [Jinping] of China for the very bold move he made today,” Trump said. “It was a somewhat unexpected move, and we appreciate it.”
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/351746-trump-announces-new-sanctions-on-north-korea-through-executive-order |
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DuncanIdaho wrote: | Quote: | Trump announces new sanctions on North Korea
President Trump on Thursday signed an executive order imposing new sanctions on North Korea as the U.S. and its allies sought to ramp up pressure on Kim Jong Un to abandon his nuclear ambitions.
Speaking at the United Nations before a working lunch with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and South Korean President Moon Jae-in, two key allies in the region, Trump said the order would significantly expand the U.S. ability to crack down on individuals and companies that do business with North Korea.
The president said he had empowered the Treasury Department to “target any individual or entity that conducts trade in goods, services or technology” with the country. The order also includes measures designed to “disrupt critical North Korean shipping and trade networks.”
Flanked at a table by Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, Vice President Pence, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Nikki Haley, Trump expressed an urgency to curb North Korea’s nuclear and ballistics programs.
“North Korea's missiles and weapons development is a grave threat to peace and security in our world, and it is unacceptable that others financially support this criminal rogue regime,” Trump said. “The brutal North Korean regime does not respect its own citizens or the sovereignty of other nations. A new executive order will cut off sources of revenue that fund North Korea's efforts to develop the deadliest weapons known to human kind.”
The announcement immediately raised questions about the impact on China, which is North Korea’s largest trading partner.
“I want to be clear the order targets only one country — that country is North Korea,” Trump said.
The president announced that he had “heard moments ago” that the Chinese had told their central bank to “immediately stop doing business with North Korea.”
“I want to thank President Xi [Jinping] of China for the very bold move he made today,” Trump said. “It was a somewhat unexpected move, and we appreciate it.”
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/351746-trump-announces-new-sanctions-on-north-korea-through-executive-order |
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WOW! If this is true its a game changer. Him saying he will not trade with companies that do business with NK basically means he will stop trade with China.
Well you got give Trump one thing he doesn't backed down from a fight.
Again If this is true it will be interesting how the rest of KJU's rule will go without china. |
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Lucky_Shot wrote: | WOW! If this is true its a game changer. Him saying he will not trade with companies that do business with NK basically means he will stop trade with China.
Well you got give Trump one thing he doesn't backed down from a fight.
Again If this is true it will be interesting how the rest of KJU's rule will go without china. |
Yeah -- anything successful will need to include China being fully on board. We'll see. |
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Keep in mind that he also lies all the time. _________________ ¡Hala Madrid! |
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Yeah. I'm sure if the China part isn't true we'll hear about it shortly. |
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It's not only shameful but unfair to citizens that Republicans are trying to pass a bill they don't believe in just so they can say they passed something.
I posted a video with the president of Mexico roasting Trump. Trump is so inept leaders of other country's are making fun of him.
We are the laughing stock of the world.SMH _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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Guys can you tone down your graphics. I only have a 19" monitor. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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jodeke wrote: | It's not only shameful but unfair to citizens that Republicans are trying to pass a bill they don't believe in just so they can say they passed something.
I posted a video with the president of Mexico roasting Trump. Trump is so inept leaders of other country's are making fun of him.
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1. They do believe in it. They think healthcare is a product, not a right, and they believe in shifting federal dollars to their coffers and away from blue states.
2. They have to have a massive health care slashing bill in order to fund their big prize, huge tax cuts for the wealthy.
Essentially, they are redistributing wealth from blue to red states and from government programs to wealthy bank balances. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel |
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Omar Little wrote: | jodeke wrote: | It's not only shameful but unfair to citizens that Republicans are trying to pass a bill they don't believe in just so they can say they passed something.
I posted a video with the president of Mexico roasting Trump. Trump is so inept leaders of other country's are making fun of him.
We are the laughing stock of the world.SMH |
1. They do believe in it. They think healthcare is a product, not a right, and they believe in shifting federal dollars to their coffers and away from blue states.
2. They have to have a massive health care slashing bill in order to fund their big prize, huge tax cuts for the wealthy.
Essentially, they are redistributing wealth from blue to red states and from government programs to wealthy bank balances. |
Republicans aren’t voting for Graham-Cassidy. They’re just voting for Obamacare repeal.
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Quote: | Senate Republicans are once again just a few votes away from repealing and replacing Obamacare. It’s a plan that senators themselves struggle to explain and defend and that emerged on the public stage mere days before an expected vote.
How have they found themselves here again, after their previous repeal bills failed in July? The underlying truth, the beating heart of Obamacare repeal that refuses to let it die, is: Republicans just want to pass a bill, any bill, to say they repealed Obamacare. Whatever standards they’ve set for their health care plan, whatever promises they made before, don’t matter. |
_________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
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jodeke wrote: | Omar Little wrote: | jodeke wrote: | It's not only shameful but unfair to citizens that Republicans are trying to pass a bill they don't believe in just so they can say they passed something.
I posted a video with the president of Mexico roasting Trump. Trump is so inept leaders of other country's are making fun of him.
We are the laughing stock of the world.SMH |
1. They do believe in it. They think healthcare is a product, not a right, and they believe in shifting federal dollars to their coffers and away from blue states.
2. They have to have a massive health care slashing bill in order to fund their big prize, huge tax cuts for the wealthy.
Essentially, they are redistributing wealth from blue to red states and from government programs to wealthy bank balances. |
Republicans aren’t voting for Graham-Cassidy. They’re just voting for Obamacare repeal.
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Quote: | Senate Republicans are once again just a few votes away from repealing and replacing Obamacare. It’s a plan that senators themselves struggle to explain and defend and that emerged on the public stage mere days before an expected vote.
How have they found themselves here again, after their previous repeal bills failed in July? The underlying truth, the beating heart of Obamacare repeal that refuses to let it die, is: Republicans just want to pass a bill, any bill, to say they repealed Obamacare. Whatever standards they’ve set for their health care plan, whatever promises they made before, don’t matter. |
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You can also make a case that they're voting to create the conditions for an upcoming tax cut. That's why every version of Obamacare repeal contained huge Medicaid spending cuts. And those spending cuts will finance a tax cut, which they then can spin as not increasing the deficit. _________________ ¡Hala Madrid! |
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