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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:29 pm Post subject:
Omar Little wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
By the way, if you guys haven't already seen it, the premiere of David Letterman's new show "My Next Guest" with Barak Obama is a great watch right now. It's a sober reminder of what a sane, articulate and reasonable leader is like.
It's also likely to be a reminder about how talented at what he does David Letterman is.
That too. And he actually seemed even more personable than he did in his Latenight show . . . more laid back and a definite air of "I don't give an eff" - in a good way. Don't know if that was Obama's presence or whether that will carry into other episodes, but it was a pleasure to watch. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:25 pm Post subject:
If Democrats take back Congress in 2018. Does Trump switch sides and become a Democrat again? Do the Democrats accept him as a means to an end and in the end become exactly what we rail against now?
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:32 pm Post subject:
lakerjoshua wrote:
If Democrats take back Congress in 2018. Does Trump switch sides and become a Democrat again? Do the Democrats accept him as a means to an end and in the end become exactly what we rail against now?
LG/Showerthoughts
I have wanted someone to ask him his theory on 9/11
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:33 pm Post subject:
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The National Enquirer reportedly paid $150,000 for 1998 Playmate of the Year Karen McDougal's story of her affair with Donald Trump that allegedly took place while he was married to his wife, Melania Trump. The Enquirer never ran the story.
It's a practice called "catch and kill" in the tabloid world—pay for a story and then never publish it.
David J. Pecker is the CEO and chairman of American Media, which owns the Enquirer. He and Donald Trump have been friends for years. The Enquirer is one of the only publications to actually endorse Trump.
McDougal said she had a relationship with Trump for 10 months between 2006 and 2007 and a friend of her confirmed that she and McDougal attended the Miss Universe pageant in 2006 as guests of Trump, sitting in the first row with him.
The contract gave American Media the rights to "any romantic, personal and/or physical relationship McDougal has ever had with any then-married man," though it does not name Trump specifically. If McDougal were to talk about an affair to another media outlet or on social media, she could have to pay $150,000 or more in damages.
If Democrats take back Congress in 2018. Does Trump switch sides and become a Democrat again? Do the Democrats accept him as a means to an end and in the end become exactly what we rail against now?
LG/Showerthoughts
It will be tough for the Dem to win the Senate with 26 seats up for grabs compared to only 8 for the elephants. Its going to take a huge blue tidal wave to wipe out the republicans
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:03 pm Post subject:
Omar Little wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
By the way, if you guys haven't already seen it, the premiere of David Letterman's new show "My Next Guest" with Barak Obama is a great watch right now. It's a sober reminder of what a sane, articulate and reasonable leader is like.
It's also likely to be a reminder about how talented at what he does David Letterman is.
I don't remember just where but Obama commented on David's smarts. Letterman said something like "Yeah, I'm not as dumb as some people think I am" paraphrased. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
Steve Bannon cut a deal to talk with Mueller and not go in front of a grand jury.
That's what most observers predicted. Mueller used the subpoena as a threat, knowing that Bannon's team will try to negotiate it down to an interview without the grand jury present. _________________ ¡Hala Madrid!
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:27 pm Post subject:
Wilt wrote:
Freddie Buckets wrote:
Steve Bannon cut a deal to talk with Mueller and not go in front of a grand jury.
That's what most observers predicted. Mueller used the subpoena as a threat, knowing that Bannon's team will try to negotiate it down to an interview without the grand jury present.
Bannon wanted to have a lawyer present. They're not allowed in a grand jury room. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
Bernie Sanders had more votes than clinton and trump combined from the 30 & under crowd. You guy want more young people to vote than put up the candidates we voted for instead of making us jaded and pick from two people we hate,
hell last years opinion polls showed the under 27 crowd found him to be the most respected political figure in DC
If Democrats take back Congress in 2018. Does Trump switch sides and become a Democrat again? Do the Democrats accept him as a means to an end and in the end become exactly what we rail against now?
LG/Showerthoughts
Not a chance. Did you see how many Trumpers jumped ship the week he struck a deal with "Chuck and Nancy"?
If Democrats take back Congress in 2018. Does Trump switch sides and become a Democrat again? Do the Democrats accept him as a means to an end and in the end become exactly what we rail against now?
LG/Showerthoughts
Not a chance. Did you see how many Trumpers jumped ship the week he struck a deal with "Chuck and Nancy"?
That would be like Hitler converting to Judaism. _________________ “Properly read, the bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived.”
― Isaac Asimov
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:01 am Post subject:
Lucky_Shot wrote:
Friendly reminder from the past
Bernie Sanders had more votes than clinton and trump combined from the 30 & under crowd. You guy want more young people to vote than put up the candidates we voted for instead of making us jaded and pick from two people we hate,
hell last years opinion polls showed the under 27 crowd found him to be the most respected political figure in DC
As someone who has both been under thirty and over thirty for considerable periods of time, I agree in part with the premise of courting the young, as they have a general advantage in energy, idealism/altruism, and capacity for change. That is the “good” element of the young voter, which is offset by a lack of experience and the pragmatism and judgement that tend to come with it (disclaimer: there are significant numbers of people on either side of this arbitrary age line that do not conform with these generalizations, as is the case with almost anything that is generally true). Along with the democratic fact that they make up a minority of the electorate, there are many reasons not to elect people solely on their popularity with this group (just as there is good reason not to favor just the other end of the age spectrum, where experience tends to come with a lot of resistance to even positive change).
Long story short, what excites the young should be listened to and understood, and incorporated into general policy, but it shouldn’t necessarily drive it. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
Bernie Sanders had more votes than clinton and trump combined from the 30 & under crowd. You guy want more young people to vote than put up the candidates we voted for instead of making us jaded and pick from two people we hate,
hell last years opinion polls showed the under 27 crowd found him to be the most respected political figure in DC
As someone who has both been under thirty and over thirty for considerable periods of time, I agree in part with the premise of courting the young, as they have a general advantage in energy, idealism/altruism, and capacity for change. That is the “good” element of the young voter, which is offset by a lack of experience and the pragmatism and judgement that tend to come with it (disclaimer: there are significant numbers of people on either side of this arbitrary age line that do not conform with these generalizations, as is the case with almost anything that is generally true). Along with the democratic fact that they make up a minority of the electorate, there are many reasons not to elect people solely on their popularity with this group (just as there is good reason not to favor just the other end of the age spectrum, where experience tends to come with a lot of resistance to even positive change).
Long story short, what excites the young should be listened to and understood, and incorporated into general policy, but it shouldn’t necessarily drive it.
I'm still bitter over Bernie and with such a huge margin of votes for Sanders with the youth it makes me wonder what the turn out would of been for the general election which younger demographics tend to vote in higher number compared to the primaries. I do agree you shouldn't listen to only one sect of the voters but the youth were fired up last election and the democratic party kind of extinguished that.
This next time around i still think the youth is the key, get them to booth and you win the election (Sanders is still not a bad choice but he is getting up there in age now) not that I'm right just my 2cents
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:14 am Post subject:
Omar Little wrote:
Lucky_Shot wrote:
Friendly reminder from the past
Bernie Sanders had more votes than clinton and trump combined from the 30 & under crowd. You guy want more young people to vote than put up the candidates we voted for instead of making us jaded and pick from two people we hate,
hell last years opinion polls showed the under 27 crowd found him to be the most respected political figure in DC
As someone who has both been under thirty and over thirty for considerable periods of time, I agree in part with the premise of courting the young, as they have a general advantage in energy, idealism/altruism, and capacity for change. That is the “good” element of the young voter, which is offset by a lack of experience and the pragmatism and judgement that tend to come with it (disclaimer: there are significant numbers of people on either side of this arbitrary age line that do not conform with these generalizations, as is the case with almost anything that is generally true). Along with the democratic fact that they make up a minority of the electorate, there are many reasons not to elect people solely on their popularity with this group (just as there is good reason not to favor just the other end of the age spectrum, where experience tends to come with a lot of resistance to even positive change).
Long story short, what excites the young should be listened to and understood, and incorporated into general policy, but it shouldn’t necessarily drive it.
Exactly. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
. . . purely coincidental I'm sure _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:38 pm Post subject:
Do you guys (and gals) every get overwhelmed by disinformation?
It took me a while before I could converse with a dedicated Trumper and have a productive conversation.
Sometimes they'll go on rants and list off numerous things that are inaccurate and it gets tough to respond to all the disinformation.
For example, try to watch this:
What would you say to someone who gave you that rant?
Just a few dozen Haitians entered the United States on the visas each year since they were given permission to do so in 2012 by the Obama administration, according to DHS data.
Sixty-five Haitians entered the United States on H-2A visas, given for agricultural work, in the 2016 fiscal year, according to DHS data, and 54 Haitians were granted H-2A visas by the State Department between March and November 2017. The number of Haitians entering in 2016 on H-2B visas, which are for non-agricultural seasonal work, was more than zero but too low to report, according to DHS.
In an interview with Reuters on Wednesday, Trump praised Haitians.
"I love the people. There's a tremendous warmth," he said. "And they're very hard-working people."
Just a few dozen Haitians entered the United States on the visas each year since they were given permission to do so in 2012 by the Obama administration, according to DHS data.
Sixty-five Haitians entered the United States on H-2A visas, given for agricultural work, in the 2016 fiscal year, according to DHS data, and 54 Haitians were granted H-2A visas by the State Department between March and November 2017. The number of Haitians entering in 2016 on H-2B visas, which are for non-agricultural seasonal work, was more than zero but too low to report, according to DHS.
In an interview with Reuters on Wednesday, Trump praised Haitians.
"I love the people. There's a tremendous warmth," he said. "And they're very hard-working people."
find out how many foreign visa workers Trump has at his golf courses and hotels
It is also worth contemplating the effect any legal trouble for the NRA would have upon the Republican Congress. There is no more untouchable faction of the Republican Party than the NRA. Already, Trump’s allies have coalesced behind him and used their investigative power to support his wild claims that the FBI is part of a sinister deep-state conspiracy against him. If the NRA is swept up in Robert Mueller’s probe, the pressure on Republicans to fire or hamstring his investigation would ramp up to overwhelming levels.
_________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
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Just a few dozen Haitians entered the United States on the visas each year since they were given permission to do so in 2012 by the Obama administration, according to DHS data.
Sixty-five Haitians entered the United States on H-2A visas, given for agricultural work, in the 2016 fiscal year, according to DHS data, and 54 Haitians were granted H-2A visas by the State Department between March and November 2017. The number of Haitians entering in 2016 on H-2B visas, which are for non-agricultural seasonal work, was more than zero but too low to report, according to DHS.
In an interview with Reuters on Wednesday, Trump praised Haitians.
"I love the people. There's a tremendous warmth," he said. "And they're very hard-working people."
find out how many foreign visa workers Trump has at his golf courses and hotels
65 haitians in the whole 2016 fiscal year... this is so petty and mean
Just a few dozen Haitians entered the United States on the visas each year since they were given permission to do so in 2012 by the Obama administration, according to DHS data.
Sixty-five Haitians entered the United States on H-2A visas, given for agricultural work, in the 2016 fiscal year, according to DHS data, and 54 Haitians were granted H-2A visas by the State Department between March and November 2017. The number of Haitians entering in 2016 on H-2B visas, which are for non-agricultural seasonal work, was more than zero but too low to report, according to DHS.
In an interview with Reuters on Wednesday, Trump praised Haitians.
"I love the people. There's a tremendous warmth," he said. "And they're very hard-working people."
find out how many foreign visa workers Trump has at his golf courses and hotels
65 haitians in the whole 2016 fiscal year... this is so petty and mean
Definition of Trumps Ego
did you see the article I posted about the 39 year old father of two American children who arrived in America at age 9
Paid taxes his whole life
Never so much as a parking or speeding ticket
Raised two beautiful children ages 12-15
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:24 pm Post subject:
I vaguely recall Haitian vessels being turned back by the Coast Guard on the high seas prior to entering US Territorial waters. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
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