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ContagiousInspiration
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | Now Lamb up by 1,132 with 95% in. They are saying absentee ballots are still being counted, and might take 2 more hours before they finalize all of that. |
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How hard would it be to mail in fake counterfeit absentee ballot votes
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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| 97% in, and Lamb's lead is 540 votes. Razor-thin right now. |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Huey Lewis & The News wrote: | | lawler's law...first to 107,500 wins |
I pray Saccone doesn't break the law.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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| ContagiousInspiration wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | | Now Lamb up by 1,132 with 95% in. They are saying absentee ballots are still being counted, and might take 2 more hours before they finalize all of that. |
Curious
How hard would it be to mail in fake counterfeit absentee ballot votes
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Asking for a friend, I'm sure. |
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I worked for the Los Angeles Registrar of Voters. All ballot boxes were supposed to come to the office unopened. I was very young and naive. I saw several ballot boxes come in with locks broken, had no idea what was going on. I forget the year and who was on the ballot. It may have been Yorty vs Bradley.
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | Just to refresh my memory, could Manafort not flip on Trump, get sentenced, and then be pardoned by Trump? |
Trump can pardon federal, but not state. They've already indicted him in two different jurisdictions. I think one of the indictments is a state charge, but I'm not 100% sure.
I think most of the Manafort charges are money funny business (tax, fraud, money laundering) outside the campaign. Not sure how much he has to bargain with in regards to Trump. He has shown nothing so far that would point to his flipping. |
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Wilt
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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It'll come down to absentee ballots.
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| Cutheon wrote: | | ContagiousInspiration wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | | Now Lamb up by 1,132 with 95% in. They are saying absentee ballots are still being counted, and might take 2 more hours before they finalize all of that. |
Curious
How hard would it be to mail in fake counterfeit absentee ballot votes
Anyone know? |
Asking for a friend, I'm sure. |
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| ChefLinda wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | | Just to refresh my memory, could Manafort not flip on Trump, get sentenced, and then be pardoned by Trump? |
Trump can pardon federal, but not state. They've already indicted him in two different jurisdictions. I think one of the indictments is a state charge, but I'm not 100% sure.
I think most of the Manafort charges are money funny business (tax, fraud, money laundering) outside the campaign. Not sure how much he has to bargain with in regards to Trump. He has shown nothing so far that would point to his flipping. |
Manafort has been indicted in two federal districts. (DC and Eastern Virginia). Nothing state that we know of yet.
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| Wilt wrote: | | It'll come down to absentee ballots. |
Which doesn't bode well for Lamb
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| I think Lamb is going to win by 400-500 votes. |
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | Wilt wrote: | | It'll come down to absentee ballots. |
Which doesn't bode well for Lamb |
Actually it does. The absentee ballots are expected to skew more democratic than the Election Day vote.
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Saccone needs to overperform his Election Day results with the absentees, and the results thus far are the other direction. Lamb may actually win one of the counties.
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| Omar Little wrote: | | ChefLinda wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | | Just to refresh my memory, could Manafort not flip on Trump, get sentenced, and then be pardoned by Trump? |
Trump can pardon federal, but not state. They've already indicted him in two different jurisdictions. I think one of the indictments is a state charge, but I'm not 100% sure.
I think most of the Manafort charges are money funny business (tax, fraud, money laundering) outside the campaign. Not sure how much he has to bargain with in regards to Trump. He has shown nothing so far that would point to his flipping. |
Manafort has been indicted in two federal districts. (DC and Eastern Virginia). Nothing state that we know of yet. |
Manafort's seems to be relying on pardons. If he doesn't get any state filings he'll get pardoned. Trump has indicated as much.
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| Manafort lives in New York, so I'm sure there is some financial crime (taxes, banking, etc.) that Schneiderman could prosecute in case of Federal pardon. |
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| Quote: | Dave Wasserman
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According to a source, one of the outstanding precincts (N. Ligonier, Westmoreland Co.) voted Saccone (R) 479-285. That's about what we expected, and it's consistent w/ Lamb (D) lead holding at around 400-600 votes. |
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| Omar Little wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | Wilt wrote: | | It'll come down to absentee ballots. |
Which doesn't bode well for Lamb |
Actually it does. The absentee ballots are expected to skew more democratic than the Election Day vote. |
I would think absentee ballots are going to skew to the older electorate, which in that state is not good.
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | Omar Little wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | Wilt wrote: | | It'll come down to absentee ballots. |
Which doesn't bode well for Lamb |
Actually it does. The absentee ballots are expected to skew more democratic than the Election Day vote. |
I would think absentee ballots are going to skew to the older electorate, which in that state is not good. |
Especially in that area of Pennsylvania. |
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | Omar Little wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | Wilt wrote: | | It'll come down to absentee ballots. |
Which doesn't bode well for Lamb |
Actually it does. The absentee ballots are expected to skew more democratic than the Election Day vote. |
I would think absentee ballots are going to skew to the older electorate, which in that state is not good. |
Saccone would have to win 60% plus by the math. I think there is something like 3,000 absentee ballots out there. With his Lambs lead right now, Saconne would have to get something like 63% of those votes to win. Its pretty unlikely. More likely is a manual recount somehow swinging the count toward Saccone.
The bottom line here is that this is more of an upset than the Senate race in Alabama was. Even if Lamb ultimately loses by a few votes, that he was so close is pretty amazing. I actually would prefer that Lamb lose in some ways because I want Dems to see that unless we go all out, its still not enough.
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | Omar Little wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | Wilt wrote: | | It'll come down to absentee ballots. |
Which doesn't bode well for Lamb |
Actually it does. The absentee ballots are expected to skew more democratic than the Election Day vote. |
I would think absentee ballots are going to skew to the older electorate, which in that state is not good. |
Nope. Absentee ballots have skewed democratic (Hillary won the district absentee ballots by four points while losing the district by four overall), and that has been true with those counted thus far. And all the absentees are now in from the gop bastion and they are behind by almost 60 with only 1400 votes outstanding. This is looking like a blue win my friends.
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| Quote: | Saccone would have to win 60% plus by the math. I think there is something like 3,000 absentee ballots out there. With his Lambs lead right now, Saconne would have to get something like 63% of those votes to win. Its pretty unlikely. More likely is a manual recount somehow swinging the count toward Saccone.
The bottom line here is that this is more of an upset than the Senate race in Alabama was. Even if Lamb ultimately loses by a few votes, that he was so close is pretty amazing. I actually would prefer that Lamb lose in some ways because I want Dems to see that unless we go all out, its still not enough. |
There's actually only about 1,300 left in two counties.
He'd have to overperform greatly to make up the difference. We'll know in a couple hours.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerSanity wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | Omar Little wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | Wilt wrote: | | It'll come down to absentee ballots. |
Which doesn't bode well for Lamb |
Actually it does. The absentee ballots are expected to skew more democratic than the Election Day vote. |
I would think absentee ballots are going to skew to the older electorate, which in that state is not good. |
Saccone would have to win 60% plus by the math. I think there is something like 3,000 absentee ballots out there. With his Lambs lead right now, Saconne would have to get something like 63% of those votes to win. Its pretty unlikely. More likely is a manual recount somehow swinging the count toward Saccone.
The bottom line here is that this is more of an upset than the Senate race in Alabama was. Even if Lamb ultimately loses by a few votes, that he was so close is pretty amazing. I actually would prefer that Lamb lose in some ways because I want Dems to see that unless we go all out, its still not enough. |
There are only 1400 votes out. He needs 80-90%. Still a likely recount.
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I am a little behind focusing on this Lakers game... thanks all. Yea, seems like a Lamb win. Big stuff.
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