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Maddow reporting tonight that, among other evidence that is out there (but can't be released yet), that the Dems are claiming that, during the 2016 Trump campaign, the Trump organization was negotiating for loans from one of the Russian banks sanctioned by the U.S. Enlightening given the fact that Mueller, for the first time, just issued a subpoena for all documents in the possession of the Trump organization reflecting any interaction with Russia. _________________ LakersGround's Terms of Service
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Freddie Buckets Star Player
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Wilt wrote: | Wash Post: McMaster is out. |
jeez. i cant even keep count with how many people trump has fired.
seems like McCabe is next. |
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SweetP Star Player
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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vanexelent wrote: | SweetP wrote: | Roon wrote: | DaMuleRules wrote: | Package Bombs Are Killing People in Texas but Donald Trump Hasn’t Said a Thing. There’s a Reason for That.
I’VE WRITTEN THIS story before – many times, in fact. It’s a story of white privilege and black pain. It’s a story of Islamophobia and bigotry. It’s a story about the United States of America.
On Monday, bombs went off in Austin, Texas.
That’s a big deal, right? Bombs – actual improvised explosive devices – going off in the middle of a major American city is a big (bleep) deal.
They weren’t found by a bomb squad and safely disposed of by a brave crew or a high-tech robot. Nah, they were left on the doorsteps of people’s homes all over Austin. Made to look like mail, the packages were then picked up by a mix of everyday people – black and Latino, young and old – who were then torn to bits by explosive shrapnel.
A report from ABC News outlined the level of sophistication of the explosives: The bombs had been designed by a “highly skilled” bomb maker – or makers —who used pieces of metal to generate shrapnel and set triggers that detonated the bombs with motion.
Yeah, I’m pretty sure that’s a huge deal. Strangely, though, Donald Trump, the president of the United States, who campaigned on being tough on crime and terrorism, hasn’t said a word . . . |
(bleep) this is the first i've read about this. Damn what the hell. |
And the two black families targeted are loosely connected and both connected to prominent black persons in the Austin community. The bomb that went off at the Latino home was sent to the wrong address, it was actually meant for someone else, not been announced who. Domestic terrorism most likely targeting black families in Austin area. |
I believe the packages were dropped off by whoever created them. They didn't use a mail service. |
You're right, I think it's been suggested they were dropped off, not sent thru the USPS or other delivery service. But I thought I heard or read somewhere that the third one had an incorrect address and might have been mean for someone else? Still early in the investigation so might not have all the details yet. In any case, a horrible series of crimes. _________________ “There is always light if only we're brave enough to see it, if only we're brave enough to be it.” --Amanda Gorman |
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SweetP Star Player
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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Freddie Buckets wrote: | Wilt wrote: | Wash Post: McMaster is out. |
jeez. i cant even keep count with how many people trump has fired.
seems like McCabe is next. |
Hard to keep up. In addition to Tillerson being fired, a guy at State was fired also for speaking up to say Tillerson was blind-sided. Plus Tillerson's chief of staff and one or two deputy COS were either fired or resigned when he was let go. That's 4-5 people in one day just from the State dept. _________________ “There is always light if only we're brave enough to see it, if only we're brave enough to be it.” --Amanda Gorman |
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SweetP Star Player
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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And Trumps "body man" who is with him 24/7 essentially and hears an awful lot of sensitive stuff and is around a lot of high level intelligence was just fired and escorted off the White House grounds for security reasons. Apparently due to on-line gambling and tax issues, he could not get a security clearance. Escorted off by Secret Service without being allowed back to even get his jacket but Trump immediately hired him as senior advisor for his re-election campaign. _________________ “There is always light if only we're brave enough to see it, if only we're brave enough to be it.” --Amanda Gorman |
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vanexelent Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:26 am Post subject: |
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SweetP wrote: |
You're right, I think it's been suggested they were dropped off, not sent thru the USPS or other delivery service. But I thought I heard or read somewhere that the third one had an incorrect address and might have been mean for someone else? Still early in the investigation so might not have all the details yet. In any case, a horrible series of crimes. |
From what I've seen on the local news (I live in Austin), the packages may not have been addressed at all. They were left on the doorsteps, yards and driveways.
When the first one happened the police thought it was an isolated occurrence, perhaps related to a drug bust they had done a few houses down, days before. Then when the 2nd package exploded and it was another African American (a 17-year old kid) they started to speculate about a pattern.
All the houses have been on the East side of town, stretching from north to south. The east side of Austin has a large minority population, so who knows if he's targeting certain people or a certain area or both.
I just wish there were front door cameras on the victim's houses or neighbor's houses. I know many of my neighbors have them and have posted videos of suspicious people or when a car has been broken into. Those things catch all activity on the street, driveway and doorstep depending on where they're placed. |
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The Lebrons Star Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 7:55 am Post subject: |
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Wilt wrote: | Wash Post: McMaster is out. |
This bought McMaster extra time (like Tillerson). |
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:08 am Post subject: |
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Roon wrote: | SweetP wrote: | Roon wrote: | DaMuleRules wrote: | Package Bombs Are Killing People in Texas but Donald Trump Hasn’t Said a Thing. There’s a Reason for That.
I’VE WRITTEN THIS story before – many times, in fact. It’s a story of white privilege and black pain. It’s a story of Islamophobia and bigotry. It’s a story about the United States of America.
On Monday, bombs went off in Austin, Texas.
That’s a big deal, right? Bombs – actual improvised explosive devices – going off in the middle of a major American city is a big (bleep) deal.
They weren’t found by a bomb squad and safely disposed of by a brave crew or a high-tech robot. Nah, they were left on the doorsteps of people’s homes all over Austin. Made to look like mail, the packages were then picked up by a mix of everyday people – black and Latino, young and old – who were then torn to bits by explosive shrapnel.
A report from ABC News outlined the level of sophistication of the explosives: The bombs had been designed by a “highly skilled” bomb maker – or makers —who used pieces of metal to generate shrapnel and set triggers that detonated the bombs with motion.
Yeah, I’m pretty sure that’s a huge deal. Strangely, though, Donald Trump, the president of the United States, who campaigned on being tough on crime and terrorism, hasn’t said a word . . . |
(bleep) this is the first i've read about this. Damn what the hell. |
And the two black families targeted are loosely connected and both connected to prominent black persons in the Austin community. The bomb that went off at the Latino home was sent to the wrong address, it was actually meant for someone else, not been announced who. Domestic terrorism most likely targeting black families in Austin area. |
Targeted assassinations of prominent black community members. Firebombings all over again. Trump emboldening racists and violence. This is terrible. |
Trump not saying anything is understandable. I haven't heard any news reports. Has anyone? If not any idea why? _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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DaMuleRules Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:23 am Post subject: |
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jodeke wrote: |
Trump not saying anything is understandable. I haven't heard any news reports. Has anyone? |
Yes. And even if others haven't, certainly Trump has, and if he hasn't, that's on him as well. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Jason Isbell
Man, do those lyrics resonate right now |
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jodeke Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:26 am Post subject: |
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DaMuleRules wrote: | jodeke wrote: |
Trump not saying anything is understandable. I haven't heard any news reports. Has anyone? |
Yes. And even if others haven't, certainly Trump has, and if he hasn't, that's on him as well. |
What I'm asking is why the bombings haven't been reported by the media? I haven't seen any reports, has anyone? Any idea why not? If there have been please post some links. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:32 am Post subject: |
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McMaster
McCabe
McTillerson
How many McSomebody working in the admin??? Who’s next... McConnell? |
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ContagiousInspiration Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:33 am Post subject: |
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governator wrote: | McMaster
McCabe
McTillerson
How many McSomebody working in the admin??? Who’s next... McConnell? |
You know Ronald aint getting fired |
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ContagiousInspiration Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:38 am Post subject: |
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jodeke wrote: | DaMuleRules wrote: | jodeke wrote: |
Trump not saying anything is understandable. I haven't heard any news reports. Has anyone? |
Yes. And even if others haven't, certainly Trump has, and if he hasn't, that's on him as well. |
What I'm asking is why the bombings haven't been reported by the media? I haven't seen any reports, has anyone? Any idea why not? If there have been please post some links. |
seems like it isn't top media headlines is same reason kidnapped white girls make news but not minority children..
google news
https://news.google.com/news/search/section/q/texas%20mail%20package%20bombs/texas%20mail%20package%20bombs?hl=en&gl=US&ned=us |
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ContagiousInspiration Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:41 am Post subject: |
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Police question Austin woman they think may have been bombing target
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Mason, who is from Iowa, isn’t related to the Mason family that is prominent in Austin’s African-American community. But police have developed a theory that the bomber may have mistaken her for another member of the family.
AUSTIN BOMBINGS: Click here for complete coverage
If the theory proves true, the bomber then made two mistakes: targeting the wrong Mason and accidentally placing the package two doors down — at the house of Maria Moreno, whose 75-year-old daughter Esperanza Herrera was critically injured after picking it up. |
https://www.statesman.com/news/local/police-question-austin-woman-they-think-may-have-been-bombing-target/gLcQXFRiDz8MLrknPjbyTL/ |
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ContagiousInspiration Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:45 am Post subject: |
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Times like that above when I remember to see the good in the officers out there. I believe the majority of them are there to serve their communities the best they can. Godspeed to the investigators |
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:50 am Post subject: |
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ContagiousInspiration wrote: | jodeke wrote: | DaMuleRules wrote: | jodeke wrote: |
Trump not saying anything is understandable. I haven't heard any news reports. Has anyone? |
Yes. And even if others haven't, certainly Trump has, and if he hasn't, that's on him as well. |
What I'm asking is why the bombings haven't been reported by the media? I haven't seen any reports, has anyone? Any idea why not? If there have been please post some links. |
seems like it isn't top media headlines is same reason kidnapped white girls make news but not minority children..
google news
https://news.google.com/news/search/section/q/texas%20mail%20package%20bombs/texas%20mail%20package%20bombs?hl=en&gl=US&ned=us |
Thanks CI. Those reports are local. No CNN, MSNBC that I've seen. I don't watch a lot of local Los Angele news. I don't watch FoxNews. The third bomb could have been a mistaken address. Bomber may have dropped it at the wrong house. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
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ContagiousInspiration Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:54 am Post subject: |
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jodeke wrote: | ContagiousInspiration wrote: | jodeke wrote: | DaMuleRules wrote: | jodeke wrote: |
Trump not saying anything is understandable. I haven't heard any news reports. Has anyone? |
Yes. And even if others haven't, certainly Trump has, and if he hasn't, that's on him as well. |
What I'm asking is why the bombings haven't been reported by the media? I haven't seen any reports, has anyone? Any idea why not? If there have been please post some links. |
seems like it isn't top media headlines is same reason kidnapped white girls make news but not minority children..
google news
https://news.google.com/news/search/section/q/texas%20mail%20package%20bombs/texas%20mail%20package%20bombs?hl=en&gl=US&ned=us |
Thanks CI. Those reports are local. No CNN, MSNBC that I've seen. I don't watch a lot of local Los Angele news. I don't watch FoxNews. |
https://news.google.com/
^^don't click.. ADDHDDHDHADDHDHDHADD susceptible to clicking (bleep) you did't really have time for.. but easy way to check in on the happenings |
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:06 am Post subject: |
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jodeke wrote: | DaMuleRules wrote: | jodeke wrote: |
Trump not saying anything is understandable. I haven't heard any news reports. Has anyone? |
Yes. And even if others haven't, certainly Trump has, and if he hasn't, that's on him as well. |
What I'm asking is why the bombings haven't been reported by the media? I haven't seen any reports, has anyone? Any idea why not? If there have been please post some links. |
Umm . . .
CNN
Washiungton Post
NPR
NY Mag
And plenty more . . . Google is your friend jodeke. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Jason Isbell
Man, do those lyrics resonate right now |
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jodeke Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:11 am Post subject: |
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DaMuleRules wrote: | jodeke wrote: | DaMuleRules wrote: | jodeke wrote: |
Trump not saying anything is understandable. I haven't heard any news reports. Has anyone? |
Yes. And even if others haven't, certainly Trump has, and if he hasn't, that's on him as well. |
What I'm asking is why the bombings haven't been reported by the media? I haven't seen any reports, has anyone? Any idea why not? If there have been please post some links. |
Umm . . .
CNN
Washiungton Post
NPR
NY Mag
And plenty more . . . Google is your friend jodeke. |
Thanks. I'll do some search. First I heard was your initial post., which is why I asked the question. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:05 am Post subject: |
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So Vanessa Trump hired a criminal defense attorney to handle her divorce from junior. That should be interesting. |
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ContagiousInspiration Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:28 am Post subject: |
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Hector the Pup wrote: | So Vanessa Trump hired a criminal defense attorney to handle her divorce from junior. That should be interesting. |
Is there a country he could hide in for the rest of his life.. safely?
What serious state crimes are there on Jr?
If Trump is impeached before Jr is sentenced Pence would pardon?
But what if it became so bad it were treasonous to pardon a Trump? |
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Hector the Pup wrote: | So Vanessa Trump hired a criminal defense attorney to handle her divorce from junior. That should be interesting. |
That's strange. Why criminal rather than divorce lawyer? Is protection of assets a factor? _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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ContagiousInspiration wrote: | jodeke wrote: | ContagiousInspiration wrote: | jodeke wrote: | DaMuleRules wrote: | jodeke wrote: |
Trump not saying anything is understandable. I haven't heard any news reports. Has anyone? |
Yes. And even if others haven't, certainly Trump has, and if he hasn't, that's on him as well. |
What I'm asking is why the bombings haven't been reported by the media? I haven't seen any reports, has anyone? Any idea why not? If there have been please post some links. |
seems like it isn't top media headlines is same reason kidnapped white girls make news but not minority children..
google news
https://news.google.com/news/search/section/q/texas%20mail%20package%20bombs/texas%20mail%20package%20bombs?hl=en&gl=US&ned=us |
Thanks CI. Those reports are local. No CNN, MSNBC that I've seen. I don't watch a lot of local Los Angele news. I don't watch FoxNews. |
https://news.google.com/
^^don't click.. ADDHDDHDHADDHDHDHADD susceptible to clicking (bleep) you did't really have time for.. but easy way to check in on the happenings |
Again thanks CI. I'll bookmark that url. I gotten around some ads by copying and pasting the headline.
. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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So pretty much old white evangelicals |
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