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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:20 pm    Post subject:

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What is Your President AFRAID of?

Why does he HATE America?

Why are Republicans so AFRAID of Mueller?


How Trump, Fox Entertainment and right wing conspiracy counter the truth:

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:26 pm    Post subject:

yeah i was reading an article today that pointed out that all of Trump's defenders argue from a supposition of he's guilty. that's what they are saying in most if not all of their arguments essentially.

comey's memo released i think https://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/exclusive-read-james-comeys-notes-on-his-meetings-with-donald-trump
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:36 pm    Post subject:

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comey's memo released i think https://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/exclusive-read-james-comeys-notes-on-his-meetings-with-donald-trump


he didn't pay for sex because others paid for him...

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:02 pm    Post subject:

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ani007 wrote:

comey's memo released i think https://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/exclusive-read-james-comeys-notes-on-his-meetings-with-donald-trump


he didn't pay for sex because others paid for him...

https://dawm7kda6y2v0.cloudfront.net/uploads/2018/04/Comey-Memo_Page_02-804x1040.jpg


“Trump said Vladimir Putin told him ‘We have some of the most beautiful hookers in the world’”
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Putin knows Trump well. Trump cheats on his wives and the religious right are ok with it since he's a changed man (ie running as republican instead of a democrat).
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:05 pm    Post subject:

https://twitter.com/MaddowBlog/status/987147310399414272


"It would be hard to kill [the investigation], maybe not impossible, but hard to kill"

Comey on Trump trying to end Mueller's investigation.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:11 pm    Post subject:

The one thing that drives me nuts with Comey is that while I find him honest in matters of fact, his earnest Boy Scout routine also has a lack of humility and accountability. Jim, it is okay, even good, to say, “look, on that whole re-opening the email case thing right before the election, yeah, I really (bleep) that up”.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:25 pm    Post subject:

I love how the DOJ handled the memo release.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:28 pm    Post subject:

Yeah. Rosenstein called their bluff, and left them having to leak this and call it somehow a smear of Comey.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:49 pm    Post subject:

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Yeah. Rosenstein called their bluff, and left them having to leak this and call it somehow a smear of Comey.


More than that they sent out everything so they can't cherry pick. It's redacted but every memo is out there. Nunes can't pull that crap on this one.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:26 pm    Post subject:

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Yeah. Rosenstein called their bluff, and left them having to leak this and call it somehow a smear of Comey.


More than that they sent out everything so they can't cherry pick. It's redacted but every memo is out there. Nunes can't pull that crap on this one.


Won’t matter, they are already calling it proof of no collusion (.??) and no obstruction (actually argues in favor of it) and that he was a bad bad man. And not a single GOP voter is going to disagree. You could put a memo that Trump wrote saying he did it and it wouldn’t matter (we already have an interview where he admits he fired Comey to end his Russia/trump investigation, and they don’t believe that). The most honest thing Trump has ever said is that he could shoot someone on the street and not lose a single supporter.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:36 pm    Post subject:

Omar Little wrote:
Hector the Pup wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
Yeah. Rosenstein called their bluff, and left them having to leak this and call it somehow a smear of Comey.


More than that they sent out everything so they can't cherry pick. It's redacted but every memo is out there. Nunes can't pull that crap on this one.


Won’t matter, they are already calling it proof of no collusion (.??) and no obstruction (actually argues in favor of it) and that he was a bad bad man. And not a single GOP voter is going to disagree. You could put a memo that Trump wrote saying he did it and it wouldn’t matter (we already have an interview where he admits he fired Comey to end his Russia/trump investigation, and they don’t believe that). The most honest thing Trump has ever said is that he could shoot someone on the street and not lose a single supporter.


Whats interesting is both Mueller and Rosenstein has said Trump is not under investigation. I wonder if they meant not under investigation (at this time) to give Trump a false sense of security. If Trump doesn't feel threatened less likely he will lash out and start firing.

Mueller and Rosentstien has to wait until Cohen and Manfort flips, then they can build a case against Trump. Hopefully they will flip before the Nov midterms and they announce Trump is now under investigation.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:05 pm    Post subject:

Fallout wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
Hector the Pup wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
Yeah. Rosenstein called their bluff, and left them having to leak this and call it somehow a smear of Comey.


More than that they sent out everything so they can't cherry pick. It's redacted but every memo is out there. Nunes can't pull that crap on this one.


Won’t matter, they are already calling it proof of no collusion (.??) and no obstruction (actually argues in favor of it) and that he was a bad bad man. And not a single GOP voter is going to disagree. You could put a memo that Trump wrote saying he did it and it wouldn’t matter (we already have an interview where he admits he fired Comey to end his Russia/trump investigation, and they don’t believe that). The most honest thing Trump has ever said is that he could shoot someone on the street and not lose a single supporter.


Whats interesting is both Mueller and Rosenstein has said Trump is not under investigation. I wonder if they meant not under investigation (at this time) to give Trump a false sense of security. If Trump doesn't feel threatened less likely he will lash out and start firing.

Mueller and Rosentstien has to wait until Cohen and Manfort flips, then they can build a case against Trump. Hopefully they will flip before the Nov midterms and they announce Trump is now under investigation.


I've understood them to say Trump IS under investigation in the sense of being a subject of investigation but not a target (as in not in immediate danger of being indicted) but the designation can change at any time. And some have said that since the DOJ seems to advocate a sitting president cannot be indicted, Trump could never actually be named as a target. Even if he was found to have committed crimes that normally would lead to indictment (e.g. become a target) they feel the proper recourse is impeachment for a sitting POTUS.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:38 pm    Post subject:

SweetP wrote:
Fallout wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
Hector the Pup wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
Yeah. Rosenstein called their bluff, and left them having to leak this and call it somehow a smear of Comey.


More than that they sent out everything so they can't cherry pick. It's redacted but every memo is out there. Nunes can't pull that crap on this one.


Won’t matter, they are already calling it proof of no collusion (.??) and no obstruction (actually argues in favor of it) and that he was a bad bad man. And not a single GOP voter is going to disagree. You could put a memo that Trump wrote saying he did it and it wouldn’t matter (we already have an interview where he admits he fired Comey to end his Russia/trump investigation, and they don’t believe that). The most honest thing Trump has ever said is that he could shoot someone on the street and not lose a single supporter.


Whats interesting is both Mueller and Rosenstein has said Trump is not under investigation. I wonder if they meant not under investigation (at this time) to give Trump a false sense of security. If Trump doesn't feel threatened less likely he will lash out and start firing.

Mueller and Rosentstien has to wait until Cohen and Manfort flips, then they can build a case against Trump. Hopefully they will flip before the Nov midterms and they announce Trump is now under investigation.


I've understood them to say Trump IS under investigation in the sense of being a subject of investigation but not a target (as in not in immediate danger of being indicted) but the designation can change at any time. And some have said that since the DOJ seems to advocate a sitting president cannot be indicted, Trump could never actually be named as a target. Even if he was found to have committed crimes that normally would lead to indictment (e.g. become a target) they feel the proper recourse is impeachment for a sitting POTUS.


Imagine all the (bleep) he can get away with and only face Impeachment... Trump will obviously face state crimes somewhere..


FWIW, I wonder how much influence South Korea and the Olympics had on NK vs Trump
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:57 pm    Post subject:

ContagiousInspiration wrote:
SweetP wrote:
Fallout wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
Hector the Pup wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
Yeah. Rosenstein called their bluff, and left them having to leak this and call it somehow a smear of Comey.


More than that they sent out everything so they can't cherry pick. It's redacted but every memo is out there. Nunes can't pull that crap on this one.


Won’t matter, they are already calling it proof of no collusion (.??) and no obstruction (actually argues in favor of it) and that he was a bad bad man. And not a single GOP voter is going to disagree. You could put a memo that Trump wrote saying he did it and it wouldn’t matter (we already have an interview where he admits he fired Comey to end his Russia/trump investigation, and they don’t believe that). The most honest thing Trump has ever said is that he could shoot someone on the street and not lose a single supporter.


Whats interesting is both Mueller and Rosenstein has said Trump is not under investigation. I wonder if they meant not under investigation (at this time) to give Trump a false sense of security. If Trump doesn't feel threatened less likely he will lash out and start firing.

Mueller and Rosentstien has to wait until Cohen and Manfort flips, then they can build a case against Trump. Hopefully they will flip before the Nov midterms and they announce Trump is now under investigation.


I've understood them to say Trump IS under investigation in the sense of being a subject of investigation but not a target (as in not in immediate danger of being indicted) but the designation can change at any time. And some have said that since the DOJ seems to advocate a sitting president cannot be indicted, Trump could never actually be named as a target. Even if he was found to have committed crimes that normally would lead to indictment (e.g. become a target) they feel the proper recourse is impeachment for a sitting POTUS.


Imagine all the (bleep) he can get away with and only face Impeachment... Trump will obviously face state crimes somewhere..


FWIW, I wonder how much influence South Korea and the Olympics had on NK vs Trump


I think the president can be indicted after he or she is out of office, as long the statue of limitations has not expired, for crimes that occurred prior to taking office (not sure about during office). So whether or not impeachment is considered I don't think Trump could be indicted for obstruction of justice re: the Comey firing, etc. after leaving office. But if financial crimes done prior to being elected are uncovered, he could be charged with those after he leaves office if still valid.

Altho' Trump will probably pardon himself in advance for any and all crimes for eternity.

But he cannot pardon state crimes so maybe NY or other states can get him on something after he leaves office.

I don't think the founding fathers ever envisioned anyone quite as morally corrupt as Trump could ever be elected president or that the party in power would so abdicate their oversight of such a president.
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Omar Little wrote:
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Yeah. Rosenstein called their bluff, and left them having to leak this and call it somehow a smear of Comey.


More than that they sent out everything so they can't cherry pick. It's redacted but every memo is out there. Nunes can't pull that crap on this one.


Won’t matter, they are already calling it proof of no collusion (.??) and no obstruction (actually argues in favor of it) and that he was a bad bad man. And not a single GOP voter is going to disagree. You could put a memo that Trump wrote saying he did it and it wouldn’t matter (we already have an interview where he admits he fired Comey to end his Russia/trump investigation, and they don’t believe that). The most honest thing Trump has ever said is that he could shoot someone on the street and not lose a single supporter.



I'm not expecting this to change things. It's a preemptive strike. On it's own it means nothing but as the kids say it's another brick in the wall.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:36 pm    Post subject:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-evangelical-men-apos-t-143955919.html

75% approval among white evangelical men. They approve of all the wholesome family activities such cheating different wives with different women in multiple marriages, going bareback with a pornstar and getting peed by hookers.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:36 pm    Post subject:

Evangelical= white, hetero, patriarchal, xenophobic
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:01 am    Post subject:

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-evangelical-men-apos-t-143955919.html

75% approval among white evangelical men. They approve of all the wholesome family activities such cheating different wives with different women in multiple marriages, going bareback with a pornstar and getting peed by hookers.


yeah...these guys .

https://www.theroot.com/3-kansas-men-convicted-found-guilty-of-plot-to-bomb-mus-1825405445
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 5:37 am    Post subject:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-says-no-reason-not-supply-300-missiles-063229764.html

Russia now has an excuse to give anti missle system to Syria. Russia also told US where not to bomb. Airstrike cost 240m on missiles for the light show.

Airstrike was completely for show.

Trump: How did I do Boss?
Putin: Good boy, you did good.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:12 am    Post subject:

That would be a waste of money. Trump's big airstrikes have taken out precisely nothing. It's almost like they knew they were coming and moved everything well in advance.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:07 am    Post subject:

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Evangelical= white, hetero (but hugely closeted), patriarchal, xenophobic, not looking for actual solutions or bettering of life but primarily ways to punish "others" regardless of what it means for themselves


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:36 am    Post subject:

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That would be a waste of money. Trump's big airstrikes have taken out precisely nothing. It's almost like they knew they were coming and moved everything well in advance.

But...But...But...Donald said he'd never tell the enemy what he would do, then he did.
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-evangelical-men-apos-t-143955919.html

75% approval among white evangelical men. They approve of all the wholesome family activities such cheating different wives with different women in multiple marriages, going bareback with a pornstar and getting peed by hookers.


Fortunately they're literally a dying breed.
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Hector the Pup wrote:
Fallout wrote:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-evangelical-men-apos-t-143955919.html

75% approval among white evangelical men. They approve of all the wholesome family activities such cheating different wives with different women in multiple marriages, going bareback with a pornstar and getting peed by hookers.


Fortunately they're literally a dying breed.


Yes and no. They aren't dying off fast enough and even as they do, they are leaving behind a generation of younger people who may not be as "evangelical" but share the same vile Alt-Right beliefs and "values".

Those guys carrying torches and dressing in white shirts and tan chinos . . .? They're all in the 20s and 30s.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:56 am    Post subject:

The myth of they are dying off is that they don’t have kids they inculcated. In the era of pc and tolerance, it even became a nice rebellion for them
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