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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:48 am Post subject:
Hector the Pup wrote:
So in a rant to Fox and Friends, he admitted that he did stay in Moscow, called Comey a liar for writing a memo that he said he didn't, admitted that Cohen was representing him on the Stormy Daniels issue after denying it, and went so nuts about going after the justice department that they actually cut off his call.
I'm laughing, crying and trying to not run to the liquor store before lunch.
Don't forget this gem:
In a telephone interview with “Fox & Friends,” Trump claimed he’d decided to call in to the show because it was his wife’s birthday. “I picked a very, very special day because it’s Melania’s birthday so I said, let’s do it on Melania’s birthday,” he said. “So happy birthday to Melania.”
When asked what gift he had bought for his wife, the president replied:
"Well, I better not get into that ’cause I may get in trouble. Maybe I didn’t get her so much. I tell you what she has done, I got her a beautiful card. You know I’m very busy to be running out looking for presents, OK? But I got her a beautiful card and some beautiful flowers." _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:39 am Post subject:
Hector the Pup wrote:
So in a rant to Fox and Friends, he admitted that he did stay in Moscow, called Comey a liar for writing a memo that he said he didn't, admitted that Cohen was representing him on the Stormy Daniels issue after denying it, and went so nuts about going after the justice department that they actually cut off his call.
I'm laughing, crying and trying to not run to the liquor store before lunch.
We have a complete idiot for a leader. Or is he being lead? NOBODY CAN DO IT BUT ME!
IMO people who believe in Trump are people who want America to go back to the days of separate schools, bathrooms, lunch counters and drinking fountains. And the killer is they're being hurt more than most.
Donald John Trump is sending the country into a backward spiral. IMO our only way to turn this around is to go to the polls. GET OUT AND VOTE!!!!
‘It’s your Justice Department!’: Fox News hosts tried and failed to halt Trump’s rant
LINK _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
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If you think about it, those three imbeciles on Fox & Friends are so powerful. It would take just one sentence for them to significantly change the political dynamics in this country, "Sir, you are crazy, and we are out of time." _________________ ¡Hala Madrid!
The lawyer representing The Happiest Hour, Elizabeth Conway, argued that he was not discriminated against because only religious – not political – beliefs are protected under state and city discrimination law.
“Supporting Trump is not a religion,” Conway argued.
Piatek’s attorney Paul Liggieri responded in court, “The purpose of the hat is that he wore it because he was visiting the 9/11 Memorial.”
“He was paying spiritual tribute to the victims of 9/11. The Make American Great Again hat was part of his spiritual belief,” Liggieri claimed. "Rather than remove his hat, instead he held true to his spiritual belief and was forced from the bar,” Liggieri told Justice David Cohen, the New York Post reported.
The judge pressed Liggieri on the spiritual nature of his client's belief, saying the bar staff would not be aware of Piatek’s specific religious philosophies.
“How many members are in this spiritual program that your client is engaged in?” the judge asked.
“Your honor, we don’t allege the amount of individuals,” Liggieri said.
“So, it’s a creed of one?” the judge asked.
“Yes, your honor,” Liggieri replied, the New York Post reported.
The judge eventually made a ruling on the matter, saying the incident amount to nothing more than a “petty slight,” the New York Post reported.
“Plaintiff does not state any faith-based principle to which the hat relates,” Judge Cohen said. “Here the claim that plaintiff was not served and eventually escorted out of the bar because of his perceived support for President Trump is not outrageous conduct.”
haa haa that is hilarious. and yes it is a religious belief. It's a full on Cult at this point. If i were them when the judge asked how many followers do they have. I would've stated the exact same number of people who voted for him.
If you think about it, those three imbeciles on Fox & Friends are so powerful. It would take just one sentence for them to significantly change the political dynamics in this country, "Sir, you are crazy, and we are out of time."
They are Trumps daily security briefing, national news and foreign policy. _________________ The journey to 17 begins...
So since 99.9% of us dont like trump for good reason and know that trump along with the republican party is not out to help those in need or to move us forward. How about the other real discussion. what are the dems going to do about the fact that people would like to have more of an actual choice in their candidates? what are they going to do about people not always wanting the status quo guy/gal pushed on the dem voters as if there is no other viable options out there when their really are other options out there.
^^they just turned it into a little cartoon sketch but that really did happen. along with what we saw go down with sanders. If this is what's going on which we know it is. What are the dem voters going to do about it? just keep marching behind the usual suspects?
^^talking about the entire issue and the candidate/guy who recorded it.
Last edited by splashmtn on Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:21 pm; edited 1 time in total
So since 99.9% of us dont like trump for good reason and know that trump along with the republican party is not out to help those in need or to move us forward. How about the other real discussion. what are the dems going to do about the fact that people would like to have more of an actual choice in their candidates? what are they going to do about people not always wanting the status quo guy/gal pushed on the dem voters as if there is no other viable options out there when their really are other options out there.
^^they just turned it into a little cartoon sketch but that really did happen. along with what we saw go down with sanders. If this is what's going on which we know it is. What are the dem voters going to do about it? just keep marching behind the usual suspects?
US 2 party system box you in, there is no other alternative
So since 99.9% of us dont like trump for good reason and know that trump along with the republican party is not out to help those in need or to move us forward. How about the other real discussion. what are the dems going to do about the fact that people would like to have more of an actual choice in their candidates? what are they going to do about people not always wanting the status quo guy/gal pushed on the dem voters as if there is no other viable options out there when their really are other options out there.
^^they just turned it into a little cartoon sketch but that really did happen. along with what we saw go down with sanders. If this is what's going on which we know it is. What are the dem voters going to do about it? just keep marching behind the usual suspects?
US 2 party system box you in, there is no other alternative
sure there is. but you have to first believe that to even go any further than that.
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:25 pm Post subject:
DaMuleRules wrote:
Hector the Pup wrote:
So in a rant to Fox and Friends, he admitted that he did stay in Moscow, called Comey a liar for writing a memo that he said he didn't, admitted that Cohen was representing him on the Stormy Daniels issue after denying it, and went so nuts about going after the justice department that they actually cut off his call.
I'm laughing, crying and trying to not run to the liquor store before lunch.
Don't forget this gem:
In a telephone interview with “Fox & Friends,” Trump claimed he’d decided to call in to the show because it was his wife’s birthday. “I picked a very, very special day because it’s Melania’s birthday so I said, let’s do it on Melania’s birthday,” he said. “So happy birthday to Melania.”
When asked what gift he had bought for his wife, the president replied:
"Well, I better not get into that ’cause I may get in trouble. Maybe I didn’t get her so much. I tell you what she has done, I got her a beautiful card. You know I’m very busy to be running out looking for presents, OK? But I got her a beautiful card and some beautiful flowers."
What a guy. Here honey, here's your BD gift. ME on TV ranting about ME and MY problems. Enjoy... _________________ “There is always light if only we're brave enough to see it, if only we're brave enough to be it.” --Amanda Gorman
The lawyer representing The Happiest Hour, Elizabeth Conway, argued that he was not discriminated against because only religious – not political – beliefs are protected under state and city discrimination law.
“Supporting Trump is not a religion,” Conway argued.
Piatek’s attorney Paul Liggieri responded in court, “The purpose of the hat is that he wore it because he was visiting the 9/11 Memorial.”
“He was paying spiritual tribute to the victims of 9/11. The Make American Great Again hat was part of his spiritual belief,” Liggieri claimed. "Rather than remove his hat, instead he held true to his spiritual belief and was forced from the bar,” Liggieri told Justice David Cohen, the New York Post reported.
The judge pressed Liggieri on the spiritual nature of his client's belief, saying the bar staff would not be aware of Piatek’s specific religious philosophies.
“How many members are in this spiritual program that your client is engaged in?” the judge asked.
“Your honor, we don’t allege the amount of individuals,” Liggieri said.
“So, it’s a creed of one?” the judge asked.
“Yes, your honor,” Liggieri replied, the New York Post reported.
The judge eventually made a ruling on the matter, saying the incident amount to nothing more than a “petty slight,” the New York Post reported.
“Plaintiff does not state any faith-based principle to which the hat relates,” Judge Cohen said. “Here the claim that plaintiff was not served and eventually escorted out of the bar because of his perceived support for President Trump is not outrageous conduct.”
If he wasn't served how did he run up a tab and leave a tip?LINK
Quote:
The Happiest Hour denied that Piatek had been removed in the first place, stating Piatek “was sufficiently pleased with his service at the bar [and] that he added” a $36 tip onto the $186 tab, according to The New York Post. The bar owners suggest Piatek’s lawsuit was a “publicity stunt.”
_________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 6:18 am Post subject:
Fallout wrote:
Wilt wrote:
If you think about it, those three imbeciles on Fox & Friends are so powerful. It would take just one sentence for them to significantly change the political dynamics in this country, "Sir, you are crazy, and we are out of time."
They are Trumps daily security briefing, national news and foreign policy.
US 2 party system box you in, there is no other alternative
sure there is. but you have to first believe that to even go any further than that.
I’m sure there’s improbable independent candidates that have been successful, even non-mainstream Republican or Democrats that got elected too. But for the average voters, the choice is R or D or abstain (which can be argued as voting for the other side). Having to go against powerful well funded candidates, it’s a rare thing to have alternative viable candidates thus voters will ‘always’ box to either D or R. This is just my personal belief, I’m sure others see it differently
It might work on a small scale, but when it comes to a national level, there's just no way an independent gets close enough to do more than make a mess.
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:19 am Post subject:
Hector the Pup wrote:
It might work on a small scale, but when it comes to a national level, there's just no way an independent gets close enough to do more than make a mess.
Getting away from the two party system is possible, but there would be pain involved (as we've already seen). It's so ingrained in our culture, I think it would be a long process with multiple casualties until a third party builds into a viable entity. _________________ Not a legend
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:50 am Post subject:
Because we are not a parliamentary system, there’s less viability in small parties. Generally, they get sucked into the appropriate larger party. If a third party was successful, it would almost certainly replace one of the existing parties and you’d be back to a two party system. Or it would become a monolith with two smaller rump parties. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
This Joy Reid business, like the Michael Wolfe business before it, is an interesting test for Democrats that almost all of them appear to be failing. _________________ 14-5-3-12
The lawyer representing The Happiest Hour, Elizabeth Conway, argued that he was not discriminated against because only religious – not political – beliefs are protected under state and city discrimination law.
“Supporting Trump is not a religion,” Conway argued.
Piatek’s attorney Paul Liggieri responded in court, “The purpose of the hat is that he wore it because he was visiting the 9/11 Memorial.”
“He was paying spiritual tribute to the victims of 9/11. The Make American Great Again hat was part of his spiritual belief,” Liggieri claimed. "Rather than remove his hat, instead he held true to his spiritual belief and was forced from the bar,” Liggieri told Justice David Cohen, the New York Post reported.
The judge pressed Liggieri on the spiritual nature of his client's belief, saying the bar staff would not be aware of Piatek’s specific religious philosophies.
“How many members are in this spiritual program that your client is engaged in?” the judge asked.
“Your honor, we don’t allege the amount of individuals,” Liggieri said.
“So, it’s a creed of one?” the judge asked.
“Yes, your honor,” Liggieri replied, the New York Post reported.
The judge eventually made a ruling on the matter, saying the incident amount to nothing more than a “petty slight,” the New York Post reported.
“Plaintiff does not state any faith-based principle to which the hat relates,” Judge Cohen said. “Here the claim that plaintiff was not served and eventually escorted out of the bar because of his perceived support for President Trump is not outrageous conduct.”
Trump has worshippers. The reddit Trump forum, Trump is the GEOTUS: God Emperor Of The United States. Or maybe just Russian trolls.
I think I now have proof that it can be a religion. since the House Chaplain just got the boot by Paul Ryan.
Father Conroy’s resignation is all the more contentious in Catholic circles because Mr. Ryan is a Catholic conservative, whereas Father Conroy is a Jesuit, a branch that is viewed by some as more liberal.
Asked whether differences in politics were a factor in his ouster, Father Conroy said: “I do not want to politicize this. I have thoughts about it, but I am not contributing to that.”
But, he said, Capitol Hill is an inherently political place. “There are Catholics who are Republicans and there are Catholics who are Democrats,” he said. “I don’t know if there is a religious divide; there certainly is a political one.”
Though Father Conroy said he did not know whether politics were behind his departure, he pointed to a prayer he had given on the House floor in November, when Congress was debating tax overhaul legislation.
“May all members be mindful that the institutions and structures of our great nation guarantee the opportunities that have allowed some to achieve great success, while others continue to struggle,” he prayed. “May their efforts these days guarantee that there are not winners and losers under new tax laws, but benefits balanced and shared by all Americans.”
About a week later, Father Conroy said, he heard from the speaker’s office. “A staffer came down and said, We are upset with this prayer; you are getting too political,” he said. “It suggests to me that there are members who have talked to him about being upset with that prayer.”
Shortly after, when he saw Mr. Ryan himself, Father Conroy said that the speaker told him, “Padre, you just got to stay out of politics.”
“That is what I have tried to do for seven years,” Father Conroy said. “It doesn’t sound political to me.”
“If you are hospital chaplain, you are going to pray about health,” he added. “If you are a chaplain of Congress, you are going to pray about what Congress is doing.”
Father Conroy said that was the only time anyone from the speaker’s office had ever chastised him for veering into the political realm. “I’ve never been talked to about being too political in seven years,” he said.
So basically you can't talk about fairness when a republican tax law is being drawn up. Got it. That's not apart of their religion. lol.
Because we are not a parliamentary system, there’s less viability in small parties. Generally, they get sucked into the appropriate larger party. If a third party was successful, it would almost certainly replace one of the existing parties and you’d be back to a two party system. Or it would become a monolith with two smaller rump parties.
right now its almost a 1 party system.
It's Dems for big business and we're willing to work to get the rest of you guys a few crumbs.
and republicans for big business and the hell with the environment and everyone else.
notice the similarity, big business.
No they are not exactly the same. But if both sides are more or less bought and owned by big Corps and/or big money. Who's bidding are they going to do? Not mine or yours most times.
Which is why the idea of "lesser of two evils" needs to stop.
I'll tell you this. let the dems put forth yet another one of those type of dems come election time while their is another legit viable option on the left(not assisted by the russians). I'm wont vote for the money dem again. now truth is, where I live it wont matter because we have yet to abolish the electoral college. And my little No vote wont stop the usual suspects from voting D regardless of who's on the ticket. regardless of how they got there. now i aint no fool so I wont be voting out of anger and choosing a R. not going to happen. nor will I be choosing some fake independent that aint about much or some so called libertarian. I will stay at home or write in the right person.
because if the Dems keep choosing these same types up and down the ballots. we the people will keep getting cheated. we will be sitting there happy thats its all blue everything (white house, congress, locally.) and yet not much is getting done to assist the regular joe or jane.
Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 90305 Location: Formerly Known As 24
Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:18 am Post subject:
ocho wrote:
This Joy Reid business, like the Michael Wolfe business before it, is an interesting test for Democrats that almost all of them appear to be failing.
I missed the Michael Wolfe thing (whatever it is), but yes, while it is true that Joy Reid is a magnetic, fantastically talented person that you hate to lose, there is almost no way that this isn't what it appears to be, and her refusal to own it and apologize for it is no bueno. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
Father Conroy’s resignation is all the more contentious in Catholic circles because Mr. Ryan is a Catholic conservative, whereas Father Conroy is a Jesuit, a branch that is viewed by some as more liberal.
Asked whether differences in politics were a factor in his ouster, Father Conroy said: “I do not want to politicize this. I have thoughts about it, but I am not contributing to that.”
But, he said, Capitol Hill is an inherently political place. “There are Catholics who are Republicans and there are Catholics who are Democrats,” he said. “I don’t know if there is a religious divide; there certainly is a political one.”
Though Father Conroy said he did not know whether politics were behind his departure, he pointed to a prayer he had given on the House floor in November, when Congress was debating tax overhaul legislation.
“May all members be mindful that the institutions and structures of our great nation guarantee the opportunities that have allowed some to achieve great success, while others continue to struggle,” he prayed. “May their efforts these days guarantee that there are not winners and losers under new tax laws, but benefits balanced and shared by all Americans.”
About a week later, Father Conroy said, he heard from the speaker’s office. “A staffer came down and said, We are upset with this prayer; you are getting too political,” he said. “It suggests to me that there are members who have talked to him about being upset with that prayer.”
Shortly after, when he saw Mr. Ryan himself, Father Conroy said that the speaker told him, “Padre, you just got to stay out of politics.”
“That is what I have tried to do for seven years,” Father Conroy said. “It doesn’t sound political to me.”
“If you are hospital chaplain, you are going to pray about health,” he added. “If you are a chaplain of Congress, you are going to pray about what Congress is doing.”
Father Conroy said that was the only time anyone from the speaker’s office had ever chastised him for veering into the political realm. “I’ve never been talked to about being too political in seven years,” he said.
So basically you can't talk about fairness when a republican tax law is being drawn up. Got it. That's not apart of their religion. lol.
"...but benefits balanced and shared by all Americans.”
Jesus
Gandhi
Martin Luther King Jr.
and now Rev. Patrick J. Conroy
Martyrs for decency and oneness
The first three were murdered for their beliefs
Luckily Pontius Ryan doesn't have the power to crucify Rev. Patrick J. Conroy
This Joy Reid business, like the Michael Wolfe business before it, is an interesting test for Democrats that almost all of them appear to be failing.
I missed the Michael Wolfe thing (whatever it is), but yes, while it is true that Joy Reid is a magnetic, fantastically talented person that you hate to lose, there is almost no way that this isn't what it appears to be, and her refusal to own it and apologize for it is no bueno.
The Wolfe thing was people warmly embracing his book with no regard to the parts of it that were total BS. In both cases, the truth should (pardon the expression) trump party politics. Democrats by and large have decided that Reid lying doesn't matter, because she's a Democrat. Party loyalty mattering more than the truth sounds like a certain cable network i thought we all agreed was a bad thing. _________________ 14-5-3-12
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:29 am Post subject:
splashmtn wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
Because we are not a parliamentary system, there’s less viability in small parties. Generally, they get sucked into the appropriate larger party. If a third party was successful, it would almost certainly replace one of the existing parties and you’d be back to a two party system. Or it would become a monolith with two smaller rump parties.
right now its almost a 1 party system.
It's Dems for big business and we're willing to work to get the rest of you guys a few crumbs.
and republicans for big business and the hell with the environment and everyone else.
notice the similarity, big business.
No they are not exactly the same. But if both sides are more or less bought and owned by big Corps and/or big money. Who's bidding are they going to do? Not mine or yours most times.
Which is why the idea of "lesser of two evils" needs to stop.
I'll tell you this. let the dems put forth yet another one of those type of dems come election time while their is another legit viable option on the left(not assisted by the russians). I'm wont vote for the money dem again. now truth is, where I live it wont matter because we have yet to abolish the electoral college. And my little No vote wont stop the usual suspects from voting D regardless of who's on the ticket. regardless of how they got there. now i aint no fool so I wont be voting out of anger and choosing a R. not going to happen. nor will I be choosing some fake independent that aint about much or some so called libertarian. I will stay at home or write in the right person.
because if the Dems keep choosing these same types up and down the ballots. we the people will keep getting cheated. we will be sitting there happy thats its all blue everything (white house, congress, locally.) and yet not much is getting done to assist the regular joe or jane.
Had a thought for a new party name
The Corporation or Corporate Party...
If a Corporation is considered a person then WE THE PEOPLE are the Greatest Corporation in America..
This Joy Reid business, like the Michael Wolfe business before it, is an interesting test for Democrats that almost all of them appear to be failing.
I missed the Michael Wolfe thing (whatever it is), but yes, while it is true that Joy Reid is a magnetic, fantastically talented person that you hate to lose, there is almost no way that this isn't what it appears to be, and her refusal to own it and apologize for it is no bueno.
The Wolfe thing was people warmly embracing his book with no regard to the parts of it that were total BS. In both cases, the truth should (pardon the expression) trump party politics. Democrats by and large have decided that Reid lying doesn't matter, because she's a Democrat. Party loyalty mattering more than the truth sounds like a certain cable network i thought we all agreed was a bad thing.
It might work on a small scale, but when it comes to a national level, there's just no way an independent gets close enough to do more than make a mess.
Getting away from the two party system is possible, but there would be pain involved (as we've already seen). It's so ingrained in our culture, I think it would be a long process with multiple casualties until a third party builds into a viable entity.
I genuinely believe that if Hillary had won, Trump supporters would’ve broke off from the Republican Party and formed its own entity (which is big enough) and would be right/far-right leaning. The Republican Party would actually be pushed to center right and Democratic Party would go more left (unless Bernie’s supporters break off also which I don’t see happening). Well, didn’t happened, we have President Trump and Party before country politics reign supreme
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