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Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 5:37 am Post subject:
Trump, 2016: The FBI is investigating Hillary Clinton so she must be corrupt.
Trump, 2018: The FBI is investigating me so the FBI must be corrupt. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
My opinion is that the player protests have less to do with the flag and more to do with the players union of the NFL.....which is one of the weakest in pro sports. You don't see these type of protests in the NBA because those players are better compensated by the league. This probably has more to do with labor than it does to do with the flag.
No, it was to do with death of black individuals in the hands of police
So why doesn't the NBA have similar protests? That league has a larger percentage of black players than the NFL.
The fact is that this has galvanized the players union in the NFL and shown they have a stronger voice if they all came together. Thats why the owners have been baffled about how to stop it.
The NBA protests aren't anywhere close to the degree of the NFL ones. You might see them wearing a t-shirt for a cause for a couple of games then it basically disappears. What I see with the NBA is that the players are working behind the scenes in the community.
You've moved the goal posts.
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So why doesn't the NBA have similar protests?
First it was similar now it's degree.
I'm not moving anything. The NBA doesn't have the level of protests close to the NFL. Which is why the NFL has this crisis while the NBA doesn't.
That's has to do the the protest inception and Trumps interference. Plus the NBA has a rule in place concerning standing for the anthem. And you have moved the goal posts. Tee Shirts are similar to kneeling they just don't include the flag. Also LINK
NBA players' method might not have been kneeling (I think they were linking arms) but they were protesting also. The protest wasn't just black players but also participated by non black players (so percentage of black players in NFL vs NBA is irrelevant, there was protest in the NHL also where black player percentage is the lowers)
NBA protest weren't given the degree of media attention because the flag wasn't the vehicle for protest. The flag got more attention than the protests intended focus.
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President Trump:
"You have to stand proudly for the National Anthem. You shouldn't be playing, you shouldn't be there. Maybe they shouldn't be in the country…the NFL owners did the right thing" -President @realDonaldTrump pic.twitter.com/bt36t4EX5u
— FOX & friends (@foxandfriends) May 24, 2018
Ok to buy beer during anthem, ok to go to bathroom, ok to buy hotdog, just not kneeling
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 7:44 am Post subject:
governator wrote:
jodeke wrote:
governator wrote:
jodeke wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
jodeke wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
jodeke wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
governator wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
My opinion is that the player protests have less to do with the flag and more to do with the players union of the NFL.....which is one of the weakest in pro sports. You don't see these type of protests in the NBA because those players are better compensated by the league. This probably has more to do with labor than it does to do with the flag.
No, it was to do with death of black individuals in the hands of police
So why doesn't the NBA have similar protests? That league has a larger percentage of black players than the NFL.
The fact is that this has galvanized the players union in the NFL and shown they have a stronger voice if they all came together. Thats why the owners have been baffled about how to stop it.
The NBA protests aren't anywhere close to the degree of the NFL ones. You might see them wearing a t-shirt for a cause for a couple of games then it basically disappears. What I see with the NBA is that the players are working behind the scenes in the community.
You've moved the goal posts.
Quote:
So why doesn't the NBA have similar protests?
First it was similar now it's degree.
I'm not moving anything. The NBA doesn't have the level of protests close to the NFL. Which is why the NFL has this crisis while the NBA doesn't.
That's has to do the the protest inception and Trumps interference. Plus the NBA has a rule in place concerning standing for the anthem. And you have moved the goal posts. Tee Shirts are similar to kneeling they just don't include the flag. Also LINK
NBA players' method might not have been kneeling (I think they were linking arms) but they were protesting also. The protest wasn't just black players but also participated by non black players (so percentage of black players in NFL vs NBA is irrelevant, there was protest in the NHL also where black player percentage is the lowers)
NBA protest weren't given the degree of media attention because the flag wasn't the vehicle for protest. The flag got more attention than the protests intended focus.
Quote:
President Trump:
"You have to stand proudly for the National Anthem. You shouldn't be playing, you shouldn't be there. Maybe they shouldn't be in the country…the NFL owners did the right thing" -President @realDonaldTrump pic.twitter.com/bt36t4EX5u
— FOX & friends (@foxandfriends) May 24, 2018
Ok to buy beer during anthem, ok to go to bathroom, ok to buy hotdog, just not kneeling
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 8:38 am Post subject:
Trump reminds me of Jim Buss. Jim single handily torn down a Lakers dynasty, Trump is single handily tearing down the most powerful country in the Western world. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
He also told Kim in the letter, "You talk about your nuclear capabilities, but ours are so massive and powerful that I pray to God they will never have to be used."
_________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 10:26 am Post subject:
Hector the Pup wrote:
Jesus. I got better break up letters when I was in Jr. High.
No way The Donald wrote that letter. It was to well , paragraphed, punctuated and coherent. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 10:43 am Post subject:
Hector the Pup wrote:
Jesus. I got better break up letters when I was in Jr. High.
Yeah but did you ever get a commemorative coin?
Best I ever got in Jr. High was a mixed tape. _________________ “There is always light if only we're brave enough to see it, if only we're brave enough to be it.” --Amanda Gorman
But it had Trumpisms like "beautiful," "tremendous," and "so."
Every Junior High School English teacher in America would give that letter an F. So embarrassing. My 11-year-old niece writes more coherently. We know Trump is a moron but what about the people around him? Did Kelly read it? Did a speechwriter or lawyer read it? It's hard to believe that so many people could be that incompetent. I'm not sure why I keep being surprised.
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 11:27 am Post subject:
Much of Puerto Rico is still without power over half a year later.
It's a shame alot of those citizens don't have enough $/opportunity to move to swing states. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better”
I love the jowls and double chins on display but I am not sure it does the hair-dos justice. _________________ “There is always light if only we're brave enough to see it, if only we're brave enough to be it.” --Amanda Gorman
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 11:40 am Post subject:
kikanga wrote:
Much of Puerto Rico is still without power over half a year later.
It's a shame alot of those citizens don't have enough $/opportunity to move to swing states.
Maybe we should start a crowd funding site. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 11:41 am Post subject:
jodeke wrote:
Hector the Pup wrote:
Jesus. I got better break up letters when I was in Jr. High.
No way The Donald wrote that letter. It wasto well , paragraphed, punctuated and coherent.
Ummm... _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
Trump broke up with his new North Korean bff today because Kim recently "displayed tremendous anger and open hostility." ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
WTF? How on Earth does he expect to get the Nimrod Peace Prize Now? It's like the Chris Webber Timeout all over again. _________________ I'm On point, On task, On message, and Off drugs. A Streetwise Smart Bomb, Out of rehab and In denial. Over the Top, On the edge, Under the Radar, and In Control. Behind the 8 ball, Ahead of the Curve and I've got a Love Child who sends me Hate mail.
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 11:59 am Post subject:
People of color. If you drive to a convenience store in Milwaukee and it's 2 am in January. And your hands are cold since it's 20 degree weather. Don't put your hands in your pocket. Bucks player Sterling Brown had to learn the hard way.
He left someone in the car, and double parked in 2 handicap spots in an empty parking lot. Sure, worth a ticket.
Not worth being jumped by 6 officers and tazed. If he wasn't an NBA player we probably wouldn't know about it. He's lucky to be alive. Cops have "accidentally" killed unarmed minorities because they "accidentally" grabbed their gun instead of their taser. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better”
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WTF? How on Earth does he expect to get the Nimrod Peace Prize Now? It's like the Chris Webber Timeout all over again. 
