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| kikanga wrote: | One last thing. Even when Dems settle, they are still portrayed by Fox News and other conservative outlets as far left wing extremists. We might as well live up to the reputation.
Those Dems who approved Gina Haspel for CIA are so dumb. Because it's not like Rush Limbaugh and Fox News will take it easy on them because they compromised. When those Senate elections come up in purple-ish states. Those Dems will still get attack ads saying they are left wing extremists. And conservative donors won't back them no matter what. |
In fairness, they aren't looking to keep the GOP from attacking. They just come from conservative states and while they are more left leaning, they tend to toe the conservative line in regards national security. Not excusing it, but that's the reality of those people.
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Qith the GOP, the only compromise is no compromise at all. I agree that the Dems dont gain much joy trying to be centrist. Especially being that the center is actually the right these days based on how far right the right has gone.
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| ChefLinda wrote: | | Put the presidency aside. Trump is a mobbed up criminal who got away with money laundering, fraud, etc. because he paid off local politicians and the spotlight wasn't on these activities. When he decided to run for president, he opened up that Pandora's box. Mueller has been following the money all over the world with experts in cyber crime, money laundering, financial crimes, mob crimes, etc. They aren't doing that for nothing. It was reported yesterday (on Chris Hayes show) that Mueller has a dead man's switch in case he gets shut down -- there are piles of indictments ready when he pushes "send." About a half dozen of Trump's extended campaign circle have already flipped with the Feds putting the squeeze on Cohen and Manafort. Again, Mueller, the ex-FBI head, who knows the law inside out and backwards, who believes in the rule of law, who catches the bad guys for a living, is not doing this to just write a report. I understand the skepticism and cynicism but I refuse to believe there will be no consequences for this level of criminality. |
He's already entrenched the Witch Hunt/Fake News mentality deep within the GOP brain. Trump's "I could shoot some on 5th Avenue . . . " comment is going to be essentially a reality.
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His followers are not the majority of this country. To quote them, we need to take our country back. We're not a Banana Republic yet. There are more of us than them. It's a given they will never leave his side. I don't give a (bleep) what they think, we need to outvote them. We start there.
You play into their hands when you begin to believe objective facts don't matter. They matter. I don't care how the necromancer enthralls his cult. The facts still matter to the rest of us. The facts still matter to the courts. The facts still matter to juries. The facts still matter to the investigative reporters digging into these stories.
Maybe he'll be impeached, maybe he won't. But the facts still need to come out regardless. Because it matters. |
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| ChefLinda wrote: | His followers are not the majority of this country. To quote them, we need to take our country back. We're not a Banana Republic yet. There are more of us than them. It's a given they will never leave his side. I don't give a (bleep) what they think, we need to outvote them. We start there.
You play into their hands when you begin to believe objective facts don't matter. They matter. I don't care how the necromancer enthralls his cult. The facts still matter to the rest of us. The facts still matter to the courts. The facts still matter to juries. The fact still matter to the investigative reporters digging into these stories.
Maybe he'll be impeached, maybe he won't. But the facts still need to come out regardless. Because it matters. |
No. But they are a large enough block that the GOP notices them and as has been made abundantly clear, caters to them. And that's my point. There is no legal or bureaucratic recourse to seeing Trump punished that is actually going to come to fruition. Which is why we need to stop focusing on the judicial system and hoping against hope it fixes this mess. It's not going to happen.
The only hope lies in the voting booth and that's where we need to focus our thoughts and efforts.
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Well well well. So it turns out that that Russian Oligarch who's cousin gave Cohen $500,000 that the Trumpanzees insisted had no connection to to the Oligargh were both caught on tape entering Trump Tower together 11 days before Tramp took the oath of office..
Putin Oligarch on Tape at Trump Tower
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| Omar Little wrote: | | They just come from conservative states and while they are more left leaning, they tend to toe the conservative line in regards national security. Not excusing it, but that's the reality of those people. |
I agree. It's the current reality. But I only see upside from Dems drawing a line in the sand and not budging. If some "moderate" votes for some senatorial candidate from the party of Trump because a Dem didn't want a torture advocate running the CIA. That voter wasn't really moderate.
Dems should've voted down Haspel. AND speak to their constituency about a living wage. Dems should focus on young voters, minority voters, and most importantly working-poor voters. And don't budge on anything (foreign policy, healthcare, economic policy, environmental policy).
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | ChefLinda wrote: | His followers are not the majority of this country. To quote them, we need to take our country back. We're not a Banana Republic yet. There are more of us than them. It's a given they will never leave his side. I don't give a (bleep) what they think, we need to outvote them. We start there.
You play into their hands when you begin to believe objective facts don't matter. They matter. I don't care how the necromancer enthralls his cult. The facts still matter to the rest of us. The facts still matter to the courts. The facts still matter to juries. The fact still matter to the investigative reporters digging into these stories.
Maybe he'll be impeached, maybe he won't. But the facts still need to come out regardless. Because it matters. |
No. But they are a large enough block that the GOP notices them and as has been made abundantly clear, caters to them. And that's my point. There is no legal or bureaucratic recourse to seeing Trump punished that is actually going to come to fruition. Which is why we need to stop focusing on the judicial system and hoping against hope it fixes this mess. It's not going to happen.
The only hope lies in the voting booth and that's where we need to focus our thoughts and efforts. |
Also worth pointing out that while Trump/GOP supporters are in the minority, that isn't quite the case electorally. So even the voting booth lies:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-congressional-map-is-historically-biased-toward-the-gop/ |
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| Quote: | http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-tame-continent-america-945121
DONALD TRUMP SAYS ‘OUR ANCESTORS TAMED A CONTINENT' AND ‘WE ARE NOT GOING TO APOLOGIZE FOR AMERICA’
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Sick indeed
‘Us’... we know who’s included in that ‘us’ and who’s not
‘Continent’... which one ‘tamed’? America? Africa? Australia? Pacific Islands? All belong to European descendants now
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Michael Steele former RNC chair was on MSNB Live with Alex Witt. Asked should the president say anything about the players standing for the NA he said, the president should shut the hell up. He's sounds stupid.
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Is Trump walking this cancellation back? If I have it right S Korea was blindsided.
South Korean president says Trump cancelling Kim Jong Un summit is 'very regretful and disconcerting'
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North and South Korean leaders hold surprise 2nd summit
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| jodeke wrote: | Is Trump walking this cancellation back? If I have it right S Korea was blindsided.
South Korean president says Trump cancelling Kim Jong Un summit is 'very regretful and disconcerting'
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Trump's administration is conducting foreign policy with N. Korea publicly step-by-step.
That's not a good idea.
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Did the U.S. Government Lose Track of 1,475 Migrant Children?
| Quote: | | The New York Times noted in April 2018 that 700 children, over 100 of them younger than four years old, had been taken from their parents at the border since October 2017. |
*I wanted to make this a new topic.
It is bigger than politics
All this incredible amount of wealth in the USA and this is how we see people outside our border?
Can just imagine the cultural effects if a real wall was built |
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Listening to Clapper talk about Spygate has been very entertaining.
Some points to take away from what he has been saying.
1. There was no spy in the Trump campaign.
2, It would be a national security issue to reveal the name of the spy who doesnt exist.
3. The spy, who doesnt exist, was only spying on the Trump campaign to protect them from the Russians.
The technicality that Clapper and Comey are arguing is that the spy was spying on the Russians and not the Trump campaign. To protect the Trump campaign. So how come Hilarys campaign didnt get a spy too. You know to protect them. After all Podesta got hacked by the Russians right? |
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Look who is back.
Looks like you haven’t learned much from the warning and absence. I wonder what the over under is before you’re gone again . . . A couple of days . . . A few hours?
A quick search brings up several different articles detailing how Clapper did not say there was an FBI spy trying to gain dirt on Trump.
But to play your little game, if there was a spy whose intent was to “frame” Trump in order to keep him out of office, how come he is office. If you’re framing a guy, it shouldn’t have been hard at all to do so.
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| Laker4andmore wrote: | Listening to Clapper talk about Spygate has been very entertaining.
Some points to take away from what he has been saying.
1. There was no spy in the Trump campaign.
2, It would be a national security issue to reveal the name of the spy who doesnt exist.
3. The spy, who doesnt exist, was only spying on the Trump campaign to protect them from the Russians.
The technicality that Clapper and Comey are arguing is that the spy was spying on the Russians and not the Trump campaign. To protect the Trump campaign. So how come Hilarys campaign didnt get a spy too. You know to protect them. After all Podesta got hacked by the Russians right? |
Hacked by the Russians
Why did the Russians Hack Hillary and not Trump
Why is Trump speaking like a man who is only upset because he knows they probably caught his traitorous lying thieving racist POS ass?
How you can stand anything Trump says .. since it is PROVEN over and over and over again he constantly LIES lies lies
And he's a racist
He is an incredible THIEF
His hypocrisy is offffff the charts
I feel empathy for you. I really do.
Trumpians are like the wife who keeps letting the man she is with beat her and cheat on her. And when you try to stop him from hurting her she does everything in her power to protect him |
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Fox news is a dangerous drug. The above post basically regurgitated the arguments I saw on that Judge whatevers show last night. Pretty amazing what they spew out on there. Really worth watching though if you want any understanding of how the dilusuonal half lives.
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| ContagiousInspiration wrote: |
Hacked by the Russians
Why did the Russians Hack Hillary and not Trump
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They tried to hack Trump and the RNC.
RNC and Trump had better security than Podesta. |
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| LakerSanity wrote: | | Fox news is a dangerous drug. The above post basically regurgitated the arguments I saw on that Judge whatevers show last night. Pretty amazing what they spew out on there. Really worth watching though if you want any understanding of how the dilusuonal half lives. |
It is important to check those sites
Very
So weird how I sat in, only once, on a debate team in high school. Good childhood friend who was quarterback and a 4.0 student. I'm sitting in there and the teacher told the students
"I don't care what you tell them.
Just get them to believe you"
^^^Neverending cycle of lies and deceit. |
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| Laker4andmore wrote: | | ContagiousInspiration wrote: |
Hacked by the Russians
Why did the Russians Hack Hillary and not Trump
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They tried to hack Trump and the RNC.
RNC and Trump had better security than Podesta. |
And you believe that? |
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| ContagiousInspiration wrote: | | Laker4andmore wrote: | | ContagiousInspiration wrote: |
Hacked by the Russians
Why did the Russians Hack Hillary and not Trump
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They tried to hack Trump and the RNC.
RNC and Trump had better security than Podesta. |
And you believe that? |
Like I said, the Russian campaign was about division more than about supporting one campaign
The Russians supported black lives matters and anti Trump rallies when he won |
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| Laker4andmore wrote: | | ContagiousInspiration wrote: | | Laker4andmore wrote: | | ContagiousInspiration wrote: |
Hacked by the Russians
Why did the Russians Hack Hillary and not Trump
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They tried to hack Trump and the RNC.
RNC and Trump had better security than Podesta. |
And you believe that? |
Like I said, the Russian campaign was about division more than about supporting one campaign
The Russians supported black lives matters and anti Trump rallies when he won |
This might help!
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| Laker4andmore wrote: |
Like I said, the Russian campaign was about division more than about supporting one campaign
The Russians supported black lives matters and anti Trump rallies when he won |
How do you know which is "more"? Do you have some connections with mother Russia?
In terms of resources used. Their aid to the Trump campaign dwarfs all of their other actions.
Have you read the intelligence report? https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf
Either you have and you're purposely distorting the truth. Or you haven't and don't realize you are lying.
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| jodeke wrote: | | Laker4andmore wrote: | | ContagiousInspiration wrote: | | Laker4andmore wrote: | | ContagiousInspiration wrote: |
Hacked by the Russians
Why did the Russians Hack Hillary and not Trump
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They tried to hack Trump and the RNC.
RNC and Trump had better security than Podesta. |
And you believe that? |
Like I said, the Russian campaign was about division more than about supporting one campaign
The Russians supported black lives matters and anti Trump rallies when he won |
This might help! |
can't argue with the fox echo chamber...they don't realize there is a real world...please don't feed the troll |
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