William P. Barr, who also served as attorney general under President George Bush, promised to withstand political pressure from Mr. Trump or other forces, saying his age, 68, and experience freed him to act independently.
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Mr. Barr defended as “entirely proper” an unsolicited memo he wrote criticizing Mr. Mueller’s examination of whether the president obstructed justice.
I hope he's a man of his word. I know some of his positions make him seem like he may yield to Grump.
Senator Mazie Hirono made him squirm. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
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He's a political hack* but also knows Mueller personally and respects him. It remains to be seen whether he will hinder Mueller investigation or mess with release of report.
*He's the one that came up with the idea of the Clinton "Whitewater Investigation" during the Bush/Clinton presidential campaign before Clinton had even won the presidency.
He's a political hack* but also knows Mueller personally and respects him. It remains to be seen whether he will hinder Mueller investigation or mess with release of report.
*He's the one that came up with the idea of the Clinton "Whitewater Investigation" during the Bush/Clinton presidential campaign before Clinton had even won the presidency.
He admitted that his anti-Mueller 19-page memo was based on what "some" in the media had reported about Mueller's intentions. If he knew and respected Mueller, why wouldn't he give him the benefit of the doubt on what his scope was or intentions?
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:36 am Post subject:
vanexelent wrote:
ChefLinda wrote:
He's a political hack* but also knows Mueller personally and respects him. It remains to be seen whether he will hinder Mueller investigation or mess with release of report.
*He's the one that came up with the idea of the Clinton "Whitewater Investigation" during the Bush/Clinton presidential campaign before Clinton had even won the presidency.
He admitted that his anti-Mueller 19-page memo was based on what "some" in the media had reported about Mueller's intentions. If he knew and respected Mueller, why wouldn't he give him the benefit of the doubt on what his scope was or intentions?
READ: Bill Barr's 19-Page Memo Ripping Mueller Probe
After thought When Barr saw Kamala Harris was up next I can imagine him saying to himself (Oh ish!!!!) She is relentless. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
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He's a political hack* but also knows Mueller personally and respects him. It remains to be seen whether he will hinder Mueller investigation or mess with release of report.
*He's the one that came up with the idea of the Clinton "Whitewater Investigation" during the Bush/Clinton presidential campaign before Clinton had even won the presidency.
He admitted that his anti-Mueller 19-page memo was based on what "some" in the media had reported about Mueller's intentions. If he knew and respected Mueller, why wouldn't he give him the benefit of the doubt on what his scope was or intentions?
I said he was a political hack, right?
Supposedly their two families are friends with one another. Not that it means anything because GOP hacks would throw their own grandmas under the bus for a political win. As I said, it remains to be seen what he'll do. I have a feeling he'll let Mueller finish and submit his report to DOJ, then Barr will take the report and write a summary for the public consumption that omits the worst and makes Trump look better than he deserves.
If that happens, I would hope the Democrats would have Mueller testify in public about what was in the raw report (in fact, many have said that's what they'd do).
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:34 pm Post subject:
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Barr testimony here makes no sense. He says he wrote memo to tell the lawyers not to focus on obstruction b/c theory wrong. But if so, why give the memo only to Trump lawyers and not to Mueller? If you wanted to prevent prosecutors from using a bad theory,you tell the prosecutors
How can America allow Comrade Trump to appoint
Anyone at this time
All hearings should be suspended until
Govt reopened
Trump is proven not to be a wannabe oligarch
Amy Klobuchar is still on her game. She has a unique ability to be both probing and pleasant at the same time. _________________ "A metronome keeps time by using a Ringo"
WASHINGTON ― William Barr, President Donald Trump’s nominee for attorney general, raised doubts on Tuesday that he would release to the public the complete final report by the special counsel team led by Robert Mueller.
Barr, seeking to reassure members of the Senate Judiciary Committee on Tuesday about his ability to oversee the probe into Russian efforts to skew the 2016 presidential election, called Mueller a “straight shooter” and said he didn’t believe the special counsel was overseeing a “witch hunt” ― as Trump has repeatedly branded the investigation.
But Barr, testifying at his confirmation hearing, said that under his interpretation of the special counsel regulations, he didn’t believe that Mueller’s final report on his investigation was required to be made public. He said he believed Mueller’s final report would be “confidential,” but that as attorney general he would issue a public summary of its findings.
He said he believed that the attorney general had some “flexibility and discretion” about what he could disclose to the public after the Mueller investigation concluded.
Just in case anyone was still thinking he'd be non-partisan. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
She had a better answer to the "why are you running" question than Harris (though not as polished as Warren's). I appreciate a candidate wanting to express that they're passionate and willing to fight but that can't be your reason for running. _________________ 14-5-3-12
WASHINGTON ― William Barr, President Donald Trump’s nominee for attorney general, raised doubts on Tuesday that he would release to the public the complete final report by the special counsel team led by Robert Mueller.
Barr, seeking to reassure members of the Senate Judiciary Committee on Tuesday about his ability to oversee the probe into Russian efforts to skew the 2016 presidential election, called Mueller a “straight shooter” and said he didn’t believe the special counsel was overseeing a “witch hunt” ― as Trump has repeatedly branded the investigation.
But Barr, testifying at his confirmation hearing, said that under his interpretation of the special counsel regulations, he didn’t believe that Mueller’s final report on his investigation was required to be made public. He said he believed Mueller’s final report would be “confidential,” but that as attorney general he would issue a public summary of its findings.
He said he believed that the attorney general had some “flexibility and discretion” about what he could disclose to the public after the Mueller investigation concluded.
Just in case anyone was still thinking he'd be non-partisan.
I think Barr was basically answering every question under the premise of not wanting to weaken the authority of the position. He mentioned something about Sessions recusing himself after taking direction from ethics committee, but he only questioned it in the sense that he wanted everyone to know it was also within the authority of the AG to NOT follow ethics committee direction.
Similarly here, I think he is intentionally leaving it open so as not to weaken his potential position, not necessarily for pro-Trump action.
per Gallup, Trump is the only POTUS in history of polling never to reach 50% approval in first 2 years
also the only POTUS whose average approval for first 2 years (39%) was below 40%
averages for predecessors: Obama 52%, GWB 70%, Clinton 48%, GHWB 70%, Reagan 50%, Carter 54%
GWB and GHWB having 70% averages is mind boggling. 2 of the worst presidents in history, especially GWB who tanked the world's economy and started 2 unnecessary wars.
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:00 pm Post subject:
VicXLakers wrote:
Conker wrote:
Wilt wrote:
Gillibrand is running.
Probably a good VP choice.
Another corporate Democrat. Whoopty-doo...
republicans trying to pin the corporate label on Democrats is almost as funny as trump trying to pin the puppet label on Hillary
Corporate democrats are a thing. Also known as a “Republican Light”, it’s the Democrats that take money from corporations in exchange for favorable treatment. It’s viewed as a corrupting influence for the party that is supposed to be looking out for the little guy over big business.
GWB and GHWB having 70% averages is mind boggling. 2 of the worst presidents in history
, especially GWB who tanked the world's economy and started 2 unnecessary wars.
No modern populace has proven itself to be as war friendly as Post Vietnam Americans. If a US President commits the nation to war, his approval ratings skyrocket with a consistency that is as predictable as the morning sunrise. Americans have been trained to hate anti-war "hippies" with a fervor normally reserved for the likes of ax murderers and serial molesters. For many nations, the threat of war is political suicide, but for the US, it's the surest path to temporary anointment to sainthood. _________________ I'm On point, On task, On message, and Off drugs. A Streetwise Smart Bomb, Out of rehab and In denial. Over the Top, On the edge, Under the Radar, and In Control. Behind the 8 ball, Ahead of the Curve and I've got a Love Child who sends me Hate mail.
republicans trying to pin the corporate label on Democrats is almost as funny as trump trying to pin the puppet label on Hillary
That is foolish what you said. Astray from that warp-mind homerism and realize those who are established in your beloved so-called Democratic Party are not interested to represent the need of the People . _________________ (❍ᴥ❍ʋ) ʕʘᴥʘʔ (⌐ ͡■ ͜ʖ ͡■) (┛◉Д◉)┛( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ༼;´༎ຶ ༎ຶ༽
GWB and GHWB having 70% averages is mind boggling. 2 of the worst presidents in history
, especially GWB who tanked the world's economy and started 2 unnecessary wars.
No modern populace has proven itself to be as war friendly as Post Vietnam Americans. If a US President commits the nation to war, his approval ratings skyrocket with a consistency that is as predictable as the morning sunrise. Americans have been trained to hate anti-war "hippies" with a fervor normally reserved for the likes of ax murderers and serial molesters. For many nations, the threat of war is political suicide, but for the US, it's the surest path to temporary anointment to sainthood.
I think it has to be more on the tax cuts than the wars. _________________ (❍ᴥ❍ʋ) ʕʘᴥʘʔ (⌐ ͡■ ͜ʖ ͡■) (┛◉Д◉)┛( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ༼;´༎ຶ ༎ຶ༽
Corporate democrats are a thing. Also known as a “Republican Light”, it’s the Democrats that take money from corporations in exchange for favorable treatment. It’s viewed as a corrupting influence for the party that is supposed to be looking out for the little guy over big business.
Thanks for summing it up.
It's mind-boggling how hardcore Democrat supporters caricature the people who votes Republicans as stupid and being manipulated yet themselves are getting played by their own Leaders with empty nonsensical promises, false image+advertising and speeches. _________________ (❍ᴥ❍ʋ) ʕʘᴥʘʔ (⌐ ͡■ ͜ʖ ͡■) (┛◉Д◉)┛( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ༼;´༎ຶ ༎ຶ༽
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:39 am Post subject:
I think it is the fact that Republicans use economics and Christianity to influence their voters
When they know nothing about either subject
We are upset when Republican Voters use their imagination to believe Democrats steal money
Republicans steal all the money from citizens and give it to already wealthy people. While Democrats balance budgets and provide actual care for citizens
Trickle Down economics is an elitist scam used to steal good citizens money to give it to wealthy people. Wealthy Americans should be ashamed to be taking tax cuts especially when the poor overwhelmingly send their children to die as soldiers vs the wealthy who are safe because of this.
Trump has spent more than any other President iirc
The tax cuts will be an incredible burden on our country
Plus Republicans REPRESENT Racism ..they embrace it
If you're white you might like racist leadership. If not then so what?
I agree. But it applys the same with the opposition. As the media and those fanatics, like here, portray Democrats as these self-righteous Care Bears that fight for kangaroo rights and for the Common Man. In reality, they don't care about you and only wants your votes by slewing this unity ideology with nothing to back it up with.
These well-estalished corporate Democrats, like Pelosi, Cory Booker, Gillibrand, Harris and many more, and even Beto, are the problem of your beloved political party and causing people to become apathetic and political nihilistic and defeatist. _________________ (❍ᴥ❍ʋ) ʕʘᴥʘʔ (⌐ ͡■ ͜ʖ ͡■) (┛◉Д◉)┛( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ༼;´༎ຶ ༎ຶ༽
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