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Surfitall
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Warren hasn't been a part of the Dem political machine as much as HRC was. I dont think age will be a factor among the younger generation. She has progressive ideas too. |
I don’t think it’s about age either. It’s about exciting the base and winning over voters in the swing states. Much of what was unique about Bernie in the last election has now been adopted by almost every Democratic candidate for President. I think he no longer has the unique populist thunder he once had. Healthcare for all. Increasing taxes on the super rich. Some sort of student loans forgiveness or free college program. It’s actually pretty amazing to see what an impact Bernie’s 2016 campaign has had on this year’s campaign. |
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Crazy how stupid Republican Voters are that the two sides are so far apart
Was reading about an Alabama newspaper publisher who wants the Klan back
Wants to hang socialists because
They will raise his taxes
Sorry but Trump did something worse than raising your taxes
He added trillions in debt EVERYONE IS NOW RESPONSIBLE for
How can they not see the Republicans laugh in the face of their voters. Idiots that would rather give money to people who DONT NEED IT than secure their own communities and families
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This chick is really something
85 years young
Cancer surgery
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-news-ruth-bader-ginsburg-cancer-health-20190218-story.html?outputType=amp
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vanexelent
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| Surfitall wrote: | | vanexelent wrote: |
Warren hasn't been a part of the Dem political machine as much as HRC was. I dont think age will be a factor among the younger generation. She has progressive ideas too. |
I don’t think it’s about age either. It’s about exciting the base and winning over voters in the swing states. Much of what was unique about Bernie in the last election has now been adopted by almost every Democratic candidate for President. I think he no longer has the unique populist thunder he once had. Healthcare for all. Increasing taxes on the super rich. Some sort of student loans forgiveness or free college program. It’s actually pretty amazing to see what an impact Bernie’s 2016 campaign has had on this year’s campaign. |
He and Warren have more progressive ideas than someone like Klobuchar, who's younger. Warren this morning announced a call for free child care and schooling and will pay for it by taxing multi-million and billionaires. |
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I think he's a rat, not honest. I seriously hope that I'm not left with Bernie as my only recourse. Voting for him and his kids after all they did to further erode Hillary's image and sew discord (like Repub tricksters) and all the whining they did about the Democratic structure while he cowardly remained an Independent makes me sick. A lot of people will remember the Bernie broz. This time, he's not going to have an obvious foil among the Dem candidates to sharpen his teeth on. He boosted himself up on Hillary's paid speeches every bit as fervently as Nixon once did to his opponents. Used a one-issue strategy (an issue that didn't have any impact on her ability to lead), portraying her as a villain of sorts. The only person in the game who gained from that was Trump. I can see him going after Gabbard, but she's probably going to be an early dropout. I hope he gets pushed aside early because, like Trump, he utilizes the whining technique about how unfairly he's treated by the Dems. He'll bring all that back to the table, can't teach old dogs new tricks.
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| cisternachyli wrote: | | Surfitall wrote: | Just a reminder about who our President is on a 1-1 level when interacting with others in government. When Comey was fired, he called Andrew McCabe, the Deputy Director of the FBI and now acting Director thanks to the Comey firing, to ask about how he should get back to DC. McCabe told him the government jet has to return to DC anyway along with your security detail so go ahead and come back on the jet.
Later, Trump called McCabe, and here is part of the conversation from our President:
After we agreed on a time to meet, the president began to talk about how upset he was that Comey had flown home on his government plane from Los Angeles—Comey had been giving a speech there when he learned he was fired. The president wanted to know how that had happened.
I told him that bureau lawyers had assured me there was no legal issue with Comey coming home on the plane. I decided that he should do so. The existing threat assessment indicated he was still at risk, so he needed a protection detail. Since the members of the protection detail would all be coming home, it made sense to bring everybody back on the same plane they had used to fly out there. It was coming back anyway. The president flew off the handle: That’s not right! I don’t approve of that! That’s wrong! He reiterated his point five or seven times.
I said, I’m sorry that you disagree, sir. But it was my decision, and that’s how I decided. The president said, I want you to look into that! I thought to myself: What am I going to look into? I just told you I made that decision.
The ranting against Comey spiraled. I waited until he had talked himself out.
Toward the end of the conversation, the president brought up the subject of my wife. Jill had run unsuccessfully for the Virginia state Senate back in 2015, and the president had said false and malicious things about her during his campaign in order to tarnish the FBI. He said, How is your wife? I said, She’s fine. He said, When she lost her election, that must have been very tough to lose. How did she handle losing? Is it tough to lose?
I replied, I guess it’s tough to lose anything. But she’s rededicated herself to her career and her job and taking care of kids in the emergency room. That’s what she does.
He replied in a tone that sounded like a sneer. He said, “Yeah, that must’ve been really tough. To lose. To be a loser.”
This expletive malignant narcissist mexpletive fexpletive. I just read this again and it makes me so angry that our President is this kind of spiteful, bitter, hurtful person. |
The problem is that many of the people who voted for this POS traitor are just like him; what do we do about that? |
send them all to siberia. i keep telling you guys this. all of them. |
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splashmtn
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I think he's a rat, not honest. I seriously hope that I'm not left with Bernie as my only recourse. Voting for him and his kids after all they did to further erode Hillary's image and sew discord (like Repub tricksters) and all the whining they did about the Democratic structure while he cowardly remained an Independent makes me sick...... |
^^see this kind of response is how you end up with the trumps of the world and at best a few corporate dems that wont get most people out of the current bad and getting worse economic situation they are in. perhaps you can afford to have a corporate dem or a trump in office. while most can't.
This idea that this two party system is perfect is crazy to me. The fact that someone would be that upset at a guy that was pretty darn honest the entire time and has been saying the exact same stuff where you can find video of him doing so since the 90's. again makes no sense to me.
How can you get mad at someone who had the dnc trying to get rid of him? he didnt ask them to do that. they chose to do that on their own. is he a dem? No//yes. It aint his fault that we have this two party only system more or less. If he would've ran 100% as an independent. Hil would not have received the votes she did. he would've clearly split the vote. now we know with all the extra crazy that went on, hil lost in a technicality race by the Electoral College votes. But with Bernie as an Indie he would've clearly split those votes. so even if there wasnt any russians or foolish comey stuff. She still would have lost to trump. So you actually should be glad that he's participating with the two party setup. cause if not, odds are we would end up with some bad republican because people have been brainwashed to believe they have to vote for red or blue. and a select few would not vote for either and some would vote for the 3rd option. Until we shake off that old mentality. Every independent that calls him or herself a dem/socialist is going to be forced to run under the dem umbrella. it is what it is. until it isnt.
Now is he too old? Sure he is. Should he not run? maybe, maybe not. let the voters decide. they will get him out of there in the primaries so thats that. |
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| splashmtn wrote: | | cisternachyli wrote: | | Surfitall wrote: | Just a reminder about who our President is on a 1-1 level when interacting with others in government. When Comey was fired, he called Andrew McCabe, the Deputy Director of the FBI and now acting Director thanks to the Comey firing, to ask about how he should get back to DC. McCabe told him the government jet has to return to DC anyway along with your security detail so go ahead and come back on the jet.
Later, Trump called McCabe, and here is part of the conversation from our President:
After we agreed on a time to meet, the president began to talk about how upset he was that Comey had flown home on his government plane from Los Angeles—Comey had been giving a speech there when he learned he was fired. The president wanted to know how that had happened.
I told him that bureau lawyers had assured me there was no legal issue with Comey coming home on the plane. I decided that he should do so. The existing threat assessment indicated he was still at risk, so he needed a protection detail. Since the members of the protection detail would all be coming home, it made sense to bring everybody back on the same plane they had used to fly out there. It was coming back anyway. The president flew off the handle: That’s not right! I don’t approve of that! That’s wrong! He reiterated his point five or seven times.
I said, I’m sorry that you disagree, sir. But it was my decision, and that’s how I decided. The president said, I want you to look into that! I thought to myself: What am I going to look into? I just told you I made that decision.
The ranting against Comey spiraled. I waited until he had talked himself out.
Toward the end of the conversation, the president brought up the subject of my wife. Jill had run unsuccessfully for the Virginia state Senate back in 2015, and the president had said false and malicious things about her during his campaign in order to tarnish the FBI. He said, How is your wife? I said, She’s fine. He said, When she lost her election, that must have been very tough to lose. How did she handle losing? Is it tough to lose?
I replied, I guess it’s tough to lose anything. But she’s rededicated herself to her career and her job and taking care of kids in the emergency room. That’s what she does.
He replied in a tone that sounded like a sneer. He said, “Yeah, that must’ve been really tough. To lose. To be a loser.”
This expletive malignant narcissist mexpletive fexpletive. I just read this again and it makes me so angry that our President is this kind of spiteful, bitter, hurtful person. |
The problem is that many of the people who voted for this POS traitor are just like him; what do we do about that? |
send them all to siberia. i keep telling you guys this. all of them. |
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/1/8/18173678/trump-shutdown-voter-florida
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“I voted for him, and he’s the one who’s doing this,” Minton told Mazzei. “I thought he was going to do good things. He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting.” |
They are anti-American. Straight up. |
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Surfitall
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| splashmtn wrote: | | non-player zealot wrote: |
I think he's a rat, not honest. I seriously hope that I'm not left with Bernie as my only recourse. Voting for him and his kids after all they did to further erode Hillary's image and sew discord (like Repub tricksters) and all the whining they did about the Democratic structure while he cowardly remained an Independent makes me sick...... |
^^see this kind of response is how you end up with the trumps of the world and at best a few corporate dems that wont get most people out of the current bad and getting worse economic situation they are in. perhaps you can afford to have a corporate dem or a trump in office. while most can't.
This idea that this two party system is perfect is crazy to me. The fact that someone would be that upset at a guy that was pretty darn honest the entire time and has been saying the exact same stuff where you can find video of him doing so since the 90's. again makes no sense to me.
How can you get mad at someone who had the dnc trying to get rid of him? he didnt ask them to do that. they chose to do that on their own. is he a dem? No//yes. It aint his fault that we have this two party only system more or less. If he would've ran 100% as an independent. Hil would not have received the votes she did. he would've clearly split the vote. now we know with all the extra crazy that went on, hil lost in a technicality race by the Electoral College votes. But with Bernie as an Indie he would've clearly split those votes. so even if there wasnt any russians or foolish comey stuff. She still would have lost to trump. So you actually should be glad that he's participating with the two party setup. cause if not, odds are we would end up with some bad republican because people have been brainwashed to believe they have to vote for red or blue. and a select few would not vote for either and some would vote for the 3rd option. Until we shake off that old mentality. Every independent that calls him or herself a dem/socialist is going to be forced to run under the dem umbrella. it is what it is. until it isnt.
Now is he too old? Sure he is. Should he not run? maybe, maybe not. let the voters decide. they will get him out of there in the primaries so thats that. |
How dare some Democrat voters complain that the Democratic Party officials tried to clear the field for Hillary Clinton, and deny voters a broad range of candidates to legitimately choose from in 2016.
After all, there were five candidates in the first debate. That’s plenty. (Compared to 17 candidates on the Republican side.) If more people would have run, they could have. All they had to do was win over the Clinton wing of the Dem party, the Obama wing, every female senator (including Warren) who back in 2013 signed a letter urging her to run, the record breaking 523 endorsements she received before a single vote was cast and before anyone could really assess the mood of the nation.
How dare Bernie and those who supported him create a platform about how the powerful and connected were rigging the system against the powerless...only to then feel like this was even happening in the Democratic Party.
So what if there a very limited number of debates. (The idiot Republicans were holding debates every other week starting in July. The Fools. The Democrats were much better off waiting until October, and then the DNC felt it was important to hold only one debate in prime time.) So what if emails showed DNC staffers clearly favored Hillary. So what about her endorsements, her money, her machine...it’s all completely fair! That’s politics, baby!
It’s clear what voters really want is fewer choices, and fewer opportunities to hear from the choices they did have. Voters definitely prefer feeling as though the choices are being made for them. A coronation is a good look I think. I’m hoping Democrats take the same approach in 2020. /s |
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I think he's a rat, not honest. I seriously hope that I'm not left with Bernie as my only recourse. Voting for him and his kids after all they did to further erode Hillary's image and sew discord (like Repub tricksters) and all the whining they did about the Democratic structure while he cowardly remained an Independent makes me sick. A lot of people will remember the Bernie broz. This time, he's not going to have an obvious foil among the Dem candidates to sharpen his teeth on. He boosted himself up on Hillary's paid speeches every bit as fervently as Nixon once did to his opponents. Used a one-issue strategy (an issue that didn't have any impact on her ability to lead), portraying her as a villain of sorts. The only person in the game who gained from that was Trump. I can see him going after Gabbard, but she's probably going to be an early dropout. I hope he gets pushed aside early because, like Trump, he utilizes the whining technique about how unfairly he's treated by the Dems. He'll bring all that back to the table, can't teach old dogs new tricks. |
So much LOL in this post. I find it interesting that you feel the need to defend Hillary in the way you do. She worked for a pro-segregationist during the 60s, she voted for the Iraq War, was against gay marriage until 2013 when the poll we’re for it, fundraised hundreds of millions of dollars in back rooms. And Bernie’s the rat? Give me a break. |
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A quick question for the Bernie folks: what does Sanders bring as a candidate that Warren doesn't?
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | A quick question for the Bernie folks: what does Sanders bring as a candidate that Warren doesn't? |
She’s been buckling on Medicare for All recently. He will not buckle. He’s polling higher than her in head to head polling against Trump he will likely be the front runner in that regard. |
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | A quick question for the Bernie folks: what does Sanders bring as a candidate that Warren doesn't? |
I also think a lot people view him as more trustworty. The whole Native American incident is going to hurt her with the less informed. They will only know that she lied about her ethnicity and used it. |
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I thought in the past that trump could possibly leave the country with his family and leave his ill-gotten gains behind with no further repercussions but now I see how world wide his scheming was that he will have to be incarcerated ...and not pardoned as I previously thought
Some really crazy megalomaniac ish rattling around in his head...not sure where it came from (too many James Bond movies maybe?)...he's just not that smart 
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| ContagiousInspiration wrote: | | VicXLakers wrote: | | governator wrote: | Trump: ‘Prime Minister Abe nominated me for Nobel peace prize’
Y’all think he BS ing? |
No BS...
Japan nominated Trump for Nobel Peace Prize after White House asked, newspaper reports
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/japan-nominated-trump-nobel-peace-prize-after-white-house-asked-n972661
I'll bet they buy a buttload of rooms at trump's Washington DC hotel to keep him happy too
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Her company, Ivanka Trump Marks LLC, has been granted four additional trademarks since her father’s inauguration and has 32 pending, according to the Associated Press, which first reported the new approvals.
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Shortly after his election in November and after a decade of fighting in court, Donald Trump was granted trademark protection for his name in the construction industry. In February, the Trump name was granted an additional 38 trademarks for a range of uses including hotels, insurance and bodyguard services.
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it has really gotten out of hand...he thinks that if he gets ahold of this billion dollar slush fund to buy votes that he is untouchable.
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| So what happens when Trump just decides he won't participate in any debates? That he'll just hold rallies and get free air time? |
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| vanexelent wrote: | | So what happens when Trump just decides he won't participate in any debates? That he'll just hold rallies and get free air time? |
The Trump base would love it and it's the left candidate's job to get the rest of the voters |
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I was thinking he should've tried to nominate himself as a SCJ instead of Boofanaugh..
After the Americans took Japan they had to convince Hirohito to work with them and speak to the public or maybe they would've committed suicide or become Kamikazes?
What will happen when Trump is impeached? |
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | A quick question for the Bernie folks: what does Sanders bring as a candidate that Warren doesn't? |
Terrorist voters?
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I'm waiting to hear Bernie's platform. Where does he stand on China, Russia, N Korea, our western allies, tax reform, infrastructure, education, to name a few positions? If he's chosen I'll vote for him. I'd vote for Dudley Do Right over Trump. I don't think he'll get the nomination. What he will do is as he did in his last run, put important issues on the front burner.
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| Omar Little wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | A quick question for the Bernie folks: what does Sanders bring as a candidate that Warren doesn't? |
Terrorist voters? |
Wrinkly balls? |
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| jodeke wrote: | | I'm waiting to hear Bernie's platform. Where does he stand on China, Russia, N Korea, our western allies, tax reform, infrastructure, education, to name a few positions? If he's chosen I'll vote for him. I'd vote for Dudley Do Right over Trump. I don't think he'll get the nomination. What he will do is as he did in his last run, put important issues on the front burner. |
I do think it’s odd that he doesn’t appear to have a site live and indexed on Google right now. |
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| Surfitall wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | I'm waiting to hear Bernie's platform. Where does he stand on China, Russia, N Korea, our western allies, tax reform, infrastructure, education, to name a few positions? If he's chosen I'll vote for him. I'd vote for Dudley Do Right over Trump. I don't think he'll get the nomination. What he will do is as he did in his last run, put important issues on the front burner. |
I do think it’s odd that he doesn’t appear to have a site live and indexed on Google right now. |
I wonder if he's going to change his approach on health care. I hope he abandons single payer and adopts fix ACA.
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| jodeke wrote: | | Surfitall wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | I'm waiting to hear Bernie's platform. Where does he stand on China, Russia, N Korea, our western allies, tax reform, infrastructure, education, to name a few positions? If he's chosen I'll vote for him. I'd vote for Dudley Do Right over Trump. I don't think he'll get the nomination. What he will do is as he did in his last run, put important issues on the front burner. |
I do think it’s odd that he doesn’t appear to have a site live and indexed on Google right now. |
I wonder if he's going to change his approach on health care. I hope he abandons single payer and adopts fix ACA. |
why is that Jodeke? |
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