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| ocho wrote: | | I think public mistrust of the media will increase because of this. |
I think the only people that distrust the media lean towards trump and his conspiracies already  |
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| And we don't know what the report says yet. It could be 300 pages detailing multiple cases of obstruction of justice and circumstantial evidence of other wrongdoings that fell short of indictment and therefore should be handled by Congress as opposed to DOJ. Nixon was forced out for less. Just because Trump may get away with it doesn't mean Democrats or the media were crazy for pursuing. |
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If Obama had done 1/100th of the things Trump had done, they would have milked it all the way to impeachment. Trump leads the most corrupt administration in history, the Democrats expose it reasonably, and then get accused by some of their own in this thread of overplaying it. I don't get it.
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| ChefLinda wrote: | | And we don't know what the report says yet. It could be 300 pages detailing multiple cases of obstruction of justice and circumstantial evidence of other wrongdoings that fell short of indictment and therefore should be handled by Congress as opposed to DOJ. Nixon was forced out for less. Just because Trump may get away with it doesn't mean Democrats or the media were crazy for pursuing. |
No one said they were crazy for pursuing it.
Not sure if people are intentionally misconstruing the point or just not paying attention to what has been said on this subject.
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| Quote: | | And I think you're dramatically underselling what a huge, daily, gargantuan deal Democrats in the media have made about this in comparison to what has been uncovered thus far. I disagree that drumming this up every single day has been the right approach. I think public mistrust of the media will increase because of this |
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| Quote: | Brian Schatz Verified account @brianschatz
“No more indictments” is a pretty sweet campaign slogan to be honest. I mean it’s better than “cutting your healthcare to finance the tax cuts.” |
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| ChefLinda wrote: | | And we don't know what the report says yet. It could be 300 pages detailing multiple cases of obstruction of justice and circumstantial evidence of other wrongdoings that fell short of indictment and therefore should be handled by Congress as opposed to DOJ. Nixon was forced out for less. Just because Trump may get away with it doesn't mean Democrats or the media were crazy for pursuing. |
FWIW I support the investigation and always felt they should be able to pursue it without interference even if I never expected it to uncover the smoking guns I kept hearing it would. What I'm against is supposed journalists wildly speculating what the report would conclude, drawing nightly Homeland boards about how everyone up to and including Trump is a Russian spy, tossing out conspiracy theories, and openly cheerleading Mueller, bestowing sainthood upon the hero who will deliver us from Trump.
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| ChefLinda wrote: | | Quote: | | And I think you're dramatically underselling what a huge, daily, gargantuan deal Democrats in the media have made about this in comparison to what has been uncovered thus far. I disagree that drumming this up every single day has been the right approach. I think public mistrust of the media will increase because of this |
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Where does anything in there said it should not have been pursued?
Answer: Nowhere.
There's a HUGE difference between discussing the manner in which the pursuit was presented and discussed versus saying it shouldn't have been pursued at all.
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | ChefLinda wrote: | | And we don't know what the report says yet. It could be 300 pages detailing multiple cases of obstruction of justice and circumstantial evidence of other wrongdoings that fell short of indictment and therefore should be handled by Congress as opposed to DOJ. Nixon was forced out for less. Just because Trump may get away with it doesn't mean Democrats or the media were crazy for pursuing. |
No one said they were crazy for pursuing it.
Not sure if people are intentionally misconstruing the point or just not paying attention to what has been said on this subject. |
I think it's this. Sometimes people don't hear themselves.
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Mueller could be part of a cover-up
Manafort can be pardoned. When pardoned flies to Russia
Roger stone.. same
Any family indicted
Just a traitorous secretary of defense
A dirty lawyer
A murderous election fixer manafort
Some low level dweebs
And some Russian hackers
If Nazis can pledge allegiance to Germany in Madison Square Garden then who knows
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/documentary-shows-1939-nazi-rally-madison-square-garden-180965248/
Indict Don jr then (bleep) gets real
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| Quote: | | There's a HUGE difference between discussing the manner in which the pursuit was presented and discussed versus saying it shouldn't have been pursued at all. |
And there was largely no problem in the manner Democrats have presented and discussed the countless scandals in this administration, considering the.level of criminality and abuse of power, and considering how the other side would have reacted to something a Democrat had done 1/100th as serious.
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Bet right now
Sealed indictments are waiting AT LEAST for Perjury for the many who perjured themselves |
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| ribeye wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | I have a feeling the Mueller report will be heavily redacted. Query Does the House, Congress, have authority to release the redacted portions. |
If they receive it, undoubtedly, but first, the House and Senate must receive the full report so if your question is will they receive the full report? Here's my guess:
Republicans say no--this ain't no Benghazi or private email server.
Democrats say yes--since
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My question is, do they have the authority to release the redacted portions?
If they don't receive the full report I believe they can subpoena it.
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There is an unmistakable tone that is coming through in many of these posts blaming Democrats for not doing something perfectly. Whether it's intended or not, several people are picking up on it. I'm not going to keep playing word games. Enjoy the rest of the weekend.  |
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| Wilt wrote: | | Quote: | | There's a HUGE difference between discussing the manner in which the pursuit was presented and discussed versus saying it shouldn't have been pursued at all. |
And there was largely no problem in the manner Democrats have presented and discussed the countless scandals in this administration, considering the.level of criminality and abuse of power, and considering how the other side would have reacted to something a Democrat had done 1/100th as serious. |
We don't disagree on the severity of the accusations and sinister implications of them. Where we differ is where you say there was largely no problem in how it was presented during the investigation and others of us feel there was a large problem in how it was oversold. Ultimately the report could support the suspicions, but it hasn't delivered the goods in the way that so many in the professed it would.
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| They'll subpoena Republican Robert Mueller is what they'll do |
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| This report is not an end.. only a summary up to this point or a Conclusion/Ending? |
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| ChefLinda wrote: | | There is an unmistakable tone that is coming through in many of these posts blaming Democrats for not doing something perfectly. Whether it's intended or not, several people are picking up on it. I'm not going to keep playing word games. Enjoy the rest of the weekend. |
Love ya CL, but that's exactly what your are doing. Enjoy yours as well.
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IF Republicans were Adults they would have Told Trump
To stop bashing the Investigation
Stop being a big fat scumbag
America the (bleep) cesspool
Trump the Racist Tax Cheat <<Real Patriot
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| ChefLinda wrote: | | There is an unmistakable tone that is coming through in many of these posts blaming Democrats for not doing something perfectly. Whether it's intended or not, several people are picking up on it. I'm not going to keep playing word games. Enjoy the rest of the weekend. |
I get this all day on MSNBC with all their never trump republicans ...it gets old  |
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| VicXLakers wrote: | | ChefLinda wrote: | | There is an unmistakable tone that is coming through in many of these posts blaming Democrats for not doing something perfectly. Whether it's intended or not, several people are picking up on it. I'm not going to keep playing word games. Enjoy the rest of the weekend. |
I get this all day on MSNBC with all their never trump republicans ...it gets old |
Yeah, but no one here did that. Critiquing something is not in anyway demonstrative of an expectation of perfection.
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| ContagiousInspiration wrote: | IF Republicans were Adults they would have Told Trump
To stop bashing the Investigation
Stop being a big fat scumbag
America the (bleep) cesspool
Trump the Racist Tax Cheat <<Real Patriot
I'm still very optimistic.. honest |
the thing is that most republicans probably think he's a hero for thumbing his nose at the government...trump is a symptom of the problem...republicans |
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | VicXLakers wrote: | | ChefLinda wrote: | | There is an unmistakable tone that is coming through in many of these posts blaming Democrats for not doing something perfectly. Whether it's intended or not, several people are picking up on it. I'm not going to keep playing word games. Enjoy the rest of the weekend. |
I get this all day on MSNBC with all their never trump republicans ...it gets old |
Yeah, but no one [i]here did that[/i]. Critiquing something is not in anyway demonstrative of a expectation of perfection. |
that's your opinion ....discuss it with yourself |
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| VicXLakers wrote: | | ContagiousInspiration wrote: | IF Republicans were Adults they would have Told Trump
To stop bashing the Investigation
Stop being a big fat scumbag
America the (bleep) cesspool
Trump the Racist Tax Cheat <<Real Patriot
I'm still very optimistic.. honest |
the thing is that most republicans probably think he's a hero for thumbing his nose at the government...trump is a symptom of the problem...republicans |
Exactly what I was thinking when writing it.
They love him for the fact we hate him |
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