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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 2:16 pm    Post subject:

CNN explains it pretty well: https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/23/opinions/can-democrats-avoid-brokered-convention-sracic/index.html
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 2:30 pm    Post subject:

https://theintercept.com/2018/04/26/steny-hoyer-audio-levi-tillemann/

Now why would anyone doubt this party being fair?

Of course, I reserve the right to change this opinion if they nominate The Rock.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 6:31 pm    Post subject:

Buttigieg has a 9 point lead in Iowa, accordIng to the latest Des Moines Register/CNN poll. There's basically a three way tie for second place.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 6:41 pm    Post subject:

greenfrog wrote:
https://theintercept.com/2018/04/26/steny-hoyer-audio-levi-tillemann/

Now why would anyone doubt this party being fair?

Of course, I reserve the right to change this opinion if they nominate The Rock.


We can address fairness after we get rid of the traitor that is invading in the White House.

It is stupefying that people don't get what is going on and the dangers presented, and thus they insist on infighting.

Pure idiocy.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 7:58 pm    Post subject:

Trump went to Walter Reed today. Officially, it was "portions of a physical." The whole statement by Grisham was weird. He is not scheduled to have his actual physical until February.

So it was probably something serious, but they'd never admit that.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:07 pm    Post subject:

Breaking: Democratic governor re-elected in Louisiana.

Trump was there just the other day saying he was a radical socialist.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:16 pm    Post subject:

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Trump went to Walter Reed today. Officially, it was "portions of a physical." The whole statement by Grisham was weird. He is not scheduled to have his actual physical until February.

So it was probably something serious, but they'd never admit that.


Low doses of polonium?

Or maybe get a free physical before he heads to live in Russia or an underground bunker?

It has been reported some of his Ukraine Zelensky calls were intercepted by Russian cyberteam because he used his cellphone. Sondland used WhatsApp
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 2:20 am    Post subject:

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-tells-democratic-candidates-to-ease-off-talk-of-revolution/2019/11/15/93569ddc-07fd-11ea-924a-28d87132c7ec_story.html
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 6:25 am    Post subject:

Huey Lewis & The News wrote:
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-tells-democratic-candidates-to-ease-off-talk-of-revolution/2019/11/15/93569ddc-07fd-11ea-924a-28d87132c7ec_story.html


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:05 am    Post subject:

Wilt wrote:
Trump went to Walter Reed today. Officially, it was "portions of a physical." The whole statement by Grisham was weird. He is not scheduled to have his actual physical until February.

So it was probably something serious, but they'd never admit that.


And he tweeted that the checkup will be completed next year. I don't have access to Walter Reed but I do have pretty good insurance and my annual checkup takes about 2 hours including wait time.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:17 am    Post subject:

Many journalists on twitter reporting "unofficially" it was chest pains.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:26 am    Post subject:

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Many journalists on twitter reporting "unofficially" it was chest pains.


Impossible . . . the man has no heart.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:45 am    Post subject:

And the WH called an "official lid" at 9 am -- meaning he'll be hiding in the WH all day where no press or public can see him.

I hate to state the obvious but if this were Hillary Clinton, the main stream media and Fox news would be covering 24/7, vilifying Clinton for being secretive and they would be hounding the WH staff for information non-stop.

But this is barely a blip in bizarro Trump world.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:14 am    Post subject:

Drip drip drip - Pence aide testified that Trump’s efforts to pressure Ukraine were 'inappropriate'

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A top national security aide to Vice President Mike Pence told House impeachment investigators that President Donald Trump’s efforts to pressure Ukraine to investigate his political opponents were “unusual and inappropriate,” and “shed some light on possible other motivations” for the president’s order to freeze military aid to the U.S. ally.

Jennifer Williams, who serves as Pence’s special adviser for Europe and Russia, told investigators in early November that she took notes while she listened in on Trump’s July 25 phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky from the White House Situation Room, adding that she viewed Trump’s requests for investigations as politically motivated.


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“I found the specific references to be — to be more specific to the president in nature, to his personal political agenda, as opposed to a broader … foreign policy objective of the United States,” Williams said, according to a transcript of her closed-door deposition released Saturday.

Williams also told investigators that she put a hard copy of the call transcript in Pence’s briefing book, but did not know whether he had read it.


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Williams testified she was told that Trump asked Pence not to attend Zelensky’s inauguration in May — a month after initially asking the vice president to travel to Kyiv for the event. She added that she was never given an explanation for the reversal.


Not a whistleblower. Not a never Trumper. Not part of the deep state. Not a second-hand witness. SHE WORKS FOR PENCE.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:24 am    Post subject:

There is a poll from South Carolina and Biden is up almost 30 points. The Democratic contest might come down to how badly Biden does in Iowa and New Hampshire and whether or not he can still have a significant victory in South Carolina after that. If he barely wins SC, that won't be enough, especially since he has a money problem.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:31 am    Post subject:

ChefLinda wrote:
Drip drip drip - Pence aide testified that Trump’s efforts to pressure Ukraine were 'inappropriate'

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A top national security aide to Vice President Mike Pence told House impeachment investigators that President Donald Trump’s efforts to pressure Ukraine to investigate his political opponents were “unusual and inappropriate,” and “shed some light on possible other motivations” for the president’s order to freeze military aid to the U.S. ally.

Jennifer Williams, who serves as Pence’s special adviser for Europe and Russia, told investigators in early November that she took notes while she listened in on Trump’s July 25 phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky from the White House Situation Room, adding that she viewed Trump’s requests for investigations as politically motivated.


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“I found the specific references to be — to be more specific to the president in nature, to his personal political agenda, as opposed to a broader … foreign policy objective of the United States,” Williams said, according to a transcript of her closed-door deposition released Saturday.

Williams also told investigators that she put a hard copy of the call transcript in Pence’s briefing book, but did not know whether he had read it.


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Williams testified she was told that Trump asked Pence not to attend Zelensky’s inauguration in May — a month after initially asking the vice president to travel to Kyiv for the event. She added that she was never given an explanation for the reversal.


Not a whistleblower. Not a never Trumper. Not part of the deep state. Not a second-hand witness. SHE WORKS FOR PENCE.


Well, according to what Scalise said this morning, she and the others are "Schiff's witnesses" and therefore have no credibility.

They're sticking with Trump, no matter what. And their followers repeat those nonsensical talking points on social media millions of times.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:47 am    Post subject:

ChefLinda wrote:
And the WH called an "official lid" at 9 am -- meaning he'll be hiding in the WH all day where no press or public can see him.

I hate to state the obvious but if this were Hillary Clinton, the main stream media and Fox news would be covering 24/7, vilifying Clinton for being secretive and they would be hounding the WH staff for information non-stop.

But this is barely a blip in bizarro Trump world.


"Is Hillary dying.. rushed to Walter Reed for special Doctors visit.. stay tuned"
"Hillary has gone into hiding... could this be her last days... "


It is sort of sad that our human minds are so easily led astray
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:51 am    Post subject:

Wilt wrote:
ChefLinda wrote:
Drip drip drip - Pence aide testified that Trump’s efforts to pressure Ukraine were 'inappropriate'

Quote:
A top national security aide to Vice President Mike Pence told House impeachment investigators that President Donald Trump’s efforts to pressure Ukraine to investigate his political opponents were “unusual and inappropriate,” and “shed some light on possible other motivations” for the president’s order to freeze military aid to the U.S. ally.

Jennifer Williams, who serves as Pence’s special adviser for Europe and Russia, told investigators in early November that she took notes while she listened in on Trump’s July 25 phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky from the White House Situation Room, adding that she viewed Trump’s requests for investigations as politically motivated.


Quote:
“I found the specific references to be — to be more specific to the president in nature, to his personal political agenda, as opposed to a broader … foreign policy objective of the United States,” Williams said, according to a transcript of her closed-door deposition released Saturday.

Williams also told investigators that she put a hard copy of the call transcript in Pence’s briefing book, but did not know whether he had read it.


Quote:
Williams testified she was told that Trump asked Pence not to attend Zelensky’s inauguration in May — a month after initially asking the vice president to travel to Kyiv for the event. She added that she was never given an explanation for the reversal.


Not a whistleblower. Not a never Trumper. Not part of the deep state. Not a second-hand witness. SHE WORKS FOR PENCE.


Well, according to what Scalise said this morning, she and the others are "Schiff's witnesses" and therefore have no credibility.

They're sticking with Trump, no matter what. And their followers repeat those nonsensical talking points on social media millions of times.


Alt-Right language
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Isn't there some/any law that these people break with their lies?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:52 am    Post subject:

Wilt wrote:
There is a poll from South Carolina and Biden is up almost 30 points. The Democratic contest might come down to how badly Biden does in Iowa and New Hampshire and whether or not he can still have a significant victory in South Carolina after that. If he barely wins SC, that won't be enough, especially since he has a money problem.


I am so sick of Trump I don't care which Democrat wins. They're are all fine. (Except Tulsi who isn't really a Democrat and won't win anyway).
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:56 am    Post subject:

DaMuleRules wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
https://theintercept.com/2018/04/26/steny-hoyer-audio-levi-tillemann/

Now why would anyone doubt this party being fair?

Of course, I reserve the right to change this opinion if they nominate The Rock.


We can address fairness after we get rid of the traitor that is invading in the White House.

It is stupefying that people don't get what is going on and the dangers presented, and thus they insist on democracy.

Pure idiocy.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:56 am    Post subject:

^

I feel the same way. I still have no idea who I'm going to vote for when my state comes up, won't campaign for anyone. I'll start contributing money when there's a nominee.

But it's still a competitive race and we have no idea what's gonna happen.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:59 am    Post subject:

Wilt wrote:
There is a poll from South Carolina and Biden is up almost 30 points. The Democratic contest might come down to how badly Biden does in Iowa and New Hampshire and whether or not he can still have a significant victory in South Carolina after that. If he barely wins SC, that won't be enough, especially since he has a money problem.


He's winning handsomely in Nevada, too. Super PACs, free advertising advantage, an Obama endorsement before Super Tuesday. It's possible.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:01 pm    Post subject:

greenfrog wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
https://theintercept.com/2018/04/26/steny-hoyer-audio-levi-tillemann/

Now why would anyone doubt this party being fair?

Of course, I reserve the right to change this opinion if they nominate The Rock.


We can address fairness after we get rid of the traitor that is invading in the White House.

It is stupefying that people don't get what is going on and the dangers presented, and thus they insist on democracy.

Pure idiocy.


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Nope. Not in the context I stated in the first line.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:04 pm    Post subject:

DaMuleRules wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
https://theintercept.com/2018/04/26/steny-hoyer-audio-levi-tillemann/

Now why would anyone doubt this party being fair?

Of course, I reserve the right to change this opinion if they nominate The Rock.


We can address fairness after we get rid of the traitor that is invading in the White House.

It is stupefying that people don't get what is going on and the dangers presented, and thus they insist on democracy.

Pure idiocy.


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Nope. Not in the context I stated in the first line.


Would you support a military coup, as well?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:07 pm    Post subject:

DaMuleRules wrote:
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Many journalists on twitter reporting "unofficially" it was chest pains.


Impossible . . . the man has no heart.


They said chest, not heart. It will be cleared up after a few more fish delights.
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