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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:40 pm    Post subject:

The greatest appeal to me of any politician in the race is Warren as punisher.

She gave an interview to the NYT in which she supported abolishing the death penalty in part because life in prison was a worse punishment in her view. I disagree with that approach, but broadly her view towards punishing those who have (bleep) America and America's citizens resonates more with me than anything any politician I've heard from in my lifetime and I wish she would push that agenda more. Because Bernie seems like a forgiver out of sheer disinterest, Biden a forgiver out of misguided centrist-ness.

It feels oddly sometimes like the average Bernie supporter wants to hurt Hillary Clinton or Neera Tanden while my hope is to see John Yoo and Stephen Miller tried at the Hague. Will Bernie try Stephen Miller for crimes against humanity?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:52 pm    Post subject:

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The greatest appeal to me of any politician in the race is Warren as punisher.

She gave an interview to the NYT in which she supported abolishing the death penalty in part because life in prison was a worse punishment in her view. I disagree with that approach, but broadly her view towards punishing those who have (bleep) America and America's citizens resonates more with me than anything any politician I've heard from in my lifetime and I wish she would push that agenda more. Because Bernie seems like a forgiver out of sheer disinterest, Biden a forgiver out of misguided centrist-ness.

It feels oddly sometimes like the average Bernie supporter wants to hurt Hillary Clinton or Neera Tanden while my hope is to see John Yoo and Stephen Miller tried at the Hague. Will Bernie try Stephen Miller for crimes against humanity?


The average Bernie voter voted for Hillary in 2016. Roughly 75% of Bernie voters voted for her.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:59 pm    Post subject:

Palin wrote:
https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1220445820505546755?s=20

Well thats nice i guess.


Errrr....”the Joe Rogan show is a gateway to the alt right.” Woopsie.
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The greatest appeal to me of any politician in the race is Warren as punisher.

She gave an interview to the NYT in which she supported abolishing the death penalty in part because life in prison was a worse punishment in her view. I disagree with that approach, but broadly her view towards punishing those who have (bleep) America and America's citizens resonates more with me than anything any politician I've heard from in my lifetime and I wish she would push that agenda more. Because Bernie seems like a forgiver out of sheer disinterest, Biden a forgiver out of misguided centrist-ness.

It feels oddly sometimes like the average Bernie supporter wants to hurt Hillary Clinton or Neera Tanden while my hope is to see John Yoo and Stephen Miller tried at the Hague. Will Bernie try Stephen Miller for crimes against humanity?


The average Bernie voter voted for Hillary in 2016. Roughly 75% of Bernie voters voted for her.

Does the average Bernie voter think Hillary is better than John Yoo? I know you're only one voice, but do you think Hillary is worse than John Yoo?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:27 pm    Post subject:

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Palin wrote:
https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1220445820505546755?s=20

Well thats nice i guess.


Errrr....”the Joe Rogan show is a gateway to the alt right.” Woopsie.

The Joe Rogan show is a gateway to the alt right, no?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=vIeFt88Hm8s
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:44 pm    Post subject:

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https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1220445820505546755?s=20

Well thats nice i guess.


I hope you read the replies in that thread. A lot of people definitely do not see that endorsement as "nice" or a good thing -- at all.


Bernie’s trying to win a Primary. He’ll take any endorsement he gets. Nothing wrong with that..

But actually bragging about a Joe Roggin endorsement?

Yeah, that’s not a good look.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:54 pm    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Surfitall wrote:
Palin wrote:
https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1220445820505546755?s=20

Well thats nice i guess.


Errrr....”the Joe Rogan show is a gateway to the alt right.” Woopsie.

The Joe Rogan show is a gateway to the alt right, no?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=vIeFt88Hm8s


Or the New York Times from the clip (Bari Weiss in there, I believe).
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:55 pm    Post subject:

What's next? He'll endorse Tulsi for VP?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:10 pm    Post subject:

greenfrog wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Surfitall wrote:
Palin wrote:
https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1220445820505546755?s=20

Well thats nice i guess.


Errrr....”the Joe Rogan show is a gateway to the alt right.” Woopsie.

The Joe Rogan show is a gateway to the alt right, no?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=vIeFt88Hm8s


Or the New York Times from the clip (Bari Weiss in there, I believe).

Bari Weiss is a Zionist fascist, yes.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:19 pm    Post subject:

Joe Rogan is a homophobe
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:22 pm    Post subject:

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Joe Rogan is a homophobe

Joe Rogan is an [everything] phobe *spliiiiifffff*
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:28 pm    Post subject:

Palin wrote:
https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1220445820505546755?s=20


I wasted alot of time and links explaining the issue with Joe Rogan. After all that. All I needed were the replies to that tweet.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:32 pm    Post subject:

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The greatest appeal to me of any politician in the race is Warren as punisher.

She gave an interview to the NYT in which she supported abolishing the death penalty in part because life in prison was a worse punishment in her view. I disagree with that approach, but broadly her view towards punishing those who have (bleep) America and America's citizens resonates more with me than anything any politician I've heard from in my lifetime and I wish she would push that agenda more. Because Bernie seems like a forgiver out of sheer disinterest, Biden a forgiver out of misguided centrist-ness.

It feels oddly sometimes like the average Bernie supporter wants to hurt Hillary Clinton or Neera Tanden while my hope is to see John Yoo and Stephen Miller tried at the Hague. Will Bernie try Stephen Miller for crimes against humanity?

Warren supports reparations while Bernie remains ambivalent, fwiw.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2020 2:06 am    Post subject:

Joe Rogan:

https://twitter.com/AngryBlackLady/status/1220613753068122112

https://twitter.com/jljacobson/status/1220507059747201024/photo/1
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2020 5:15 am    Post subject:

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Surfitall wrote:
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The greatest appeal to me of any politician in the race is Warren as punisher.

She gave an interview to the NYT in which she supported abolishing the death penalty in part because life in prison was a worse punishment in her view. I disagree with that approach, but broadly her view towards punishing those who have (bleep) America and America's citizens resonates more with me than anything any politician I've heard from in my lifetime and I wish she would push that agenda more. Because Bernie seems like a forgiver out of sheer disinterest, Biden a forgiver out of misguided centrist-ness.

It feels oddly sometimes like the average Bernie supporter wants to hurt Hillary Clinton or Neera Tanden while my hope is to see John Yoo and Stephen Miller tried at the Hague. Will Bernie try Stephen Miller for crimes against humanity?


The average Bernie voter voted for Hillary in 2016. Roughly 75% of Bernie voters voted for her.

Does the average Bernie voter think Hillary is better than John Yoo? I know you're only one voice, but do you think Hillary is worse than John Yoo?


No idea. I’ve never heard of John Yoo.
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Surfitall wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Surfitall wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
The greatest appeal to me of any politician in the race is Warren as punisher.

She gave an interview to the NYT in which she supported abolishing the death penalty in part because life in prison was a worse punishment in her view. I disagree with that approach, but broadly her view towards punishing those who have (bleep) America and America's citizens resonates more with me than anything any politician I've heard from in my lifetime and I wish she would push that agenda more. Because Bernie seems like a forgiver out of sheer disinterest, Biden a forgiver out of misguided centrist-ness.

It feels oddly sometimes like the average Bernie supporter wants to hurt Hillary Clinton or Neera Tanden while my hope is to see John Yoo and Stephen Miller tried at the Hague. Will Bernie try Stephen Miller for crimes against humanity?


The average Bernie voter voted for Hillary in 2016. Roughly 75% of Bernie voters voted for her.

Does the average Bernie voter think Hillary is better than John Yoo? I know you're only one voice, but do you think Hillary is worse than John Yoo?


No idea. I’ve never heard of John Yoo.

That's too bad. He was one of the architects of the US's international torture program under Bush. You should look him up.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2020 6:00 am    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Surfitall wrote:
Palin wrote:
https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1220445820505546755?s=20

Well thats nice i guess.


Errrr....”the Joe Rogan show is a gateway to the alt right.” Woopsie.

The Joe Rogan show is a gateway to the alt right, no?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=vIeFt88Hm8s


If only LG had a better search feature. We went through a whole debate about Joe Rogan written by people who’ve never listened to his show, and who have said with conviction that they will never listen to his show. Joe is a comedian/mma commentator who has a podcast where he decided to start inviting people on that he found interesting. It started with just comedians and then expanded from there.

For every link to a guest like Jordan Peterson, you could also find a link to a guest like Cornell West.

https://youtu.be/ViWvAnvT17c

The long (usually 3 hour/no commercials) format of his show makes it pretty hard for any guest to hide who they really are and generally makes it easy for the listener to decide if the speaker is full of expletive or not.

But he’s not a gotcha reporter waiting to pounce on his guests. Rogan listens to what people he finds interesting have to say, questions them if he disagrees, and tries to find out why they are the way they are. I’d say his guests are split into quarters: A quarter of his guests are MMA people which I find boring. A quarter of his guests are scientists. A quarter of his guests are people who find themselves in the realm of politics (even if they aren’t politicians). And the final group are just random people with something interesting to talk about.

Two of the most interesting interviews I’ve heard recently were the Edward Snowden interview...truly worth a listen. The interview with the Navy pilot who captured the unidentified flying objects on video off the coast of California/Mexico while on a routine mission.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2020 6:08 am    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Surfitall wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Surfitall wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
The greatest appeal to me of any politician in the race is Warren as punisher.

She gave an interview to the NYT in which she supported abolishing the death penalty in part because life in prison was a worse punishment in her view. I disagree with that approach, but broadly her view towards punishing those who have (bleep) America and America's citizens resonates more with me than anything any politician I've heard from in my lifetime and I wish she would push that agenda more. Because Bernie seems like a forgiver out of sheer disinterest, Biden a forgiver out of misguided centrist-ness.

It feels oddly sometimes like the average Bernie supporter wants to hurt Hillary Clinton or Neera Tanden while my hope is to see John Yoo and Stephen Miller tried at the Hague. Will Bernie try Stephen Miller for crimes against humanity?


The average Bernie voter voted for Hillary in 2016. Roughly 75% of Bernie voters voted for her.

Does the average Bernie voter think Hillary is better than John Yoo? I know you're only one voice, but do you think Hillary is worse than John Yoo?


No idea. I’ve never heard of John Yoo.

That's too bad. He was one of the architects of the US's international torture program under Bush. You should look him up.


Ah, well based on that, and considering that I was part of the 75% that voted for Hillary, I’d say that John Yoo sounds like an evil guy. Hillary is not an evil person, far from it. To your question though, I don’t think any of our candidates are going to pursue any American for war crimes. There are just so many other fish to fry.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2020 6:15 am    Post subject:

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Up until Election Day, how many of you thought Hillary would lose, not could but would, I thought she had it in the bag


I was worried after the Comey stuff came out and the polls cratered.


Comet stuff was a bad attack. You didn’t think she had it in the bag on Election Day?


Nope. Our watch group was nervous as hell.

Found this gem, what’s your group outlook (media polling aside), Biden v Trump, Warren v Trump, Bernie v Trump?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2020 6:37 am    Post subject:

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We went through a whole debate about Joe Rogan written by people who’ve never listened to his show, and who have said with conviction that they will never listen to his show.


Come on man, that's not an accurate description of the discussion at all. Not that I'm surprised.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2020 6:42 am    Post subject:

Surfitall wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Surfitall wrote:
Palin wrote:
https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1220445820505546755?s=20

Well thats nice i guess.


Errrr....”the Joe Rogan show is a gateway to the alt right.” Woopsie.

The Joe Rogan show is a gateway to the alt right, no?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=vIeFt88Hm8s


If only LG had a better search feature. We went through a whole debate about Joe Rogan written by people who’ve never listened to his show, and who have said with conviction that they will never listen to his show. Joe is a comedian/mma commentator who has a podcast where he decided to start inviting people on that he found interesting. It started with just comedians and then expanded from there.

For every link to a guest like Jordan Peterson, you could also find a link to a guest like Cornell West.

https://youtu.be/ViWvAnvT17c

The long (usually 3 hour/no commercials) format of his show makes it pretty hard for any guest to hide who they really are and generally makes it easy for the listener to decide if the speaker is full of expletive or not.

But he’s not a gotcha reporter waiting to pounce on his guests. Rogan listens to what people he finds interesting have to say, questions them if he disagrees, and tries to find out why they are the way they are. I’d say his guests are split into quarters: A quarter of his guests are MMA people which I find boring. A quarter of his guests are scientists. A quarter of his guests are people who find themselves in the realm of politics (even if they aren’t politicians). And the final group are just random people with something interesting to talk about.

Two of the most interesting interviews I’ve heard recently were the Edward Snowden interview...truly worth a listen. The interview with the Navy pilot who captured the unidentified flying objects on video off the coast of California/Mexico while on a routine mission.

Politics aside, that sounds depressing as hell.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2020 6:43 am    Post subject:

Putting Joe Rogan's guests aside, there are clips of him personally saying racist and misogynistic and homophobic and transphobic things over and over again.

I haven't ever watched or listened to him, but I have seen the clips where he expressed personal opinions. If you call someone the N-word or the C-word or the F-word, it's not out of context. It is what it is. Unacceptable.
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Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Surfitall wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Surfitall wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
The greatest appeal to me of any politician in the race is Warren as punisher.

She gave an interview to the NYT in which she supported abolishing the death penalty in part because life in prison was a worse punishment in her view. I disagree with that approach, but broadly her view towards punishing those who have (bleep) America and America's citizens resonates more with me than anything any politician I've heard from in my lifetime and I wish she would push that agenda more. Because Bernie seems like a forgiver out of sheer disinterest, Biden a forgiver out of misguided centrist-ness.

It feels oddly sometimes like the average Bernie supporter wants to hurt Hillary Clinton or Neera Tanden while my hope is to see John Yoo and Stephen Miller tried at the Hague. Will Bernie try Stephen Miller for crimes against humanity?


The average Bernie voter voted for Hillary in 2016. Roughly 75% of Bernie voters voted for her.

Does the average Bernie voter think Hillary is better than John Yoo? I know you're only one voice, but do you think Hillary is worse than John Yoo?


No idea. I’ve never heard of John Yoo.

That's too bad. He was one of the architects of the US's international torture program under Bush. You should look him up.


This was the beginning of (to me anyway) one of these new Republican unitary executive strategies to circumvent the rule of law, the constitution, or tradition, in that the president (and others) is off the hook, even when it is torture, if he relies on his AG for advice.
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