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ChefLinda Moderator
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:51 am Post subject: |
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Pelosi also wants a universal vote by mail amendment as part of the bill. You know Mitch McConnell will never let that in. |
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ribeye Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:51 am Post subject: |
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greenfrog wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | ChefLinda wrote: | Pathetic.
Quote: | Kasie Hunt @kasie NEW with @AlexNBCNews
Week of April 13 is earliest Americans will see direct deposit relief payments from the government; paper checks could take as long as 20 weeks -- nearly 5 months -- for some Americans
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The poorest Americans who need the money the most likely won't have direct deposit (however you filed your last tax return). In 5 months they will have been evicted. |
It's going to be a long recovery. The ballyhooed 4th phase stimulus plan from House Dems needs to be big with long timelines and automatic triggers. |
lol
and what incentive is there for Republicans to do that? They already got everything they cared about in the 3rd one. |
Trump wants it. He wants to steal the Dems idea for infrastructure reform, which is really needed, is the best Keynesian approach, and politically savvy. |
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greenfrog Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:55 am Post subject: |
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ribeye wrote: | greenfrog wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | ChefLinda wrote: | Pathetic.
Quote: | Kasie Hunt @kasie NEW with @AlexNBCNews
Week of April 13 is earliest Americans will see direct deposit relief payments from the government; paper checks could take as long as 20 weeks -- nearly 5 months -- for some Americans
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The poorest Americans who need the money the most likely won't have direct deposit (however you filed your last tax return). In 5 months they will have been evicted. |
It's going to be a long recovery. The ballyhooed 4th phase stimulus plan from House Dems needs to be big with long timelines and automatic triggers. |
lol
and what incentive is there for Republicans to do that? They already got everything they cared about in the 3rd one. |
Trump wants it. He wants to steal the Dems idea for infrastructure reform, which is really needed, is the best Keynesian approach, and politically savvy. |
Is construction even safe now? |
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ribeye Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:57 am Post subject: |
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greenfrog wrote: | ribeye wrote: | greenfrog wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | ChefLinda wrote: | Pathetic.
Quote: | Kasie Hunt @kasie NEW with @AlexNBCNews
Week of April 13 is earliest Americans will see direct deposit relief payments from the government; paper checks could take as long as 20 weeks -- nearly 5 months -- for some Americans
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The poorest Americans who need the money the most likely won't have direct deposit (however you filed your last tax return). In 5 months they will have been evicted. |
It's going to be a long recovery. The ballyhooed 4th phase stimulus plan from House Dems needs to be big with long timelines and automatic triggers. |
lol
and what incentive is there for Republicans to do that? They already got everything they cared about in the 3rd one. |
Trump wants it. He wants to steal the Dems idea for infrastructure reform, which is really needed, is the best Keynesian approach, and politically savvy. |
Is construction even safe now? |
Of course not--well, maybe in Florida, Mississippi or one of those red states it would be. But we should hope it will be sometime this summer. |
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Wilt LG Contributor
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:57 am Post subject: |
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I don't think anyone thinks construction should start anytime soon, but that it should be part of the recovery. _________________ ¡Hala Madrid! |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:59 am Post subject: |
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greenfrog wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | ChefLinda wrote: | Pathetic.
Quote: | Kasie Hunt @kasie NEW with @AlexNBCNews
Week of April 13 is earliest Americans will see direct deposit relief payments from the government; paper checks could take as long as 20 weeks -- nearly 5 months -- for some Americans
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The poorest Americans who need the money the most likely won't have direct deposit (however you filed your last tax return). In 5 months they will have been evicted. |
It's going to be a long recovery. The ballyhooed 4th phase stimulus plan from House Dems needs to be big with long timelines and automatic triggers. |
lol
and what incentive is there for Republicans to do that? They already got everything they cared about in the 3rd one. |
The presidency and the Senate.
ETA: I don't expect the Dems to get most of it. _________________ Under New Management
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DaMuleRules Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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greenfrog wrote: | ribeye wrote: | greenfrog wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | ChefLinda wrote: | Pathetic.
Quote: | Kasie Hunt @kasie NEW with @AlexNBCNews
Week of April 13 is earliest Americans will see direct deposit relief payments from the government; paper checks could take as long as 20 weeks -- nearly 5 months -- for some Americans
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The poorest Americans who need the money the most likely won't have direct deposit (however you filed your last tax return). In 5 months they will have been evicted. |
It's going to be a long recovery. The ballyhooed 4th phase stimulus plan from House Dems needs to be big with long timelines and automatic triggers. |
lol
and what incentive is there for Republicans to do that? They already got everything they cared about in the 3rd one. |
Trump wants it. He wants to steal the Dems idea for infrastructure reform, which is really needed, is the best Keynesian approach, and politically savvy. |
Is construction even safe now? |
Safe or not, it is going on all over the place. Two house are being rebuilt on my street and there are about a half dozen others in the neighborhood and they haven't slowed a bit. There is also a public works project going on along the Expo line near my house that's moving right along. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Jason Isbell
Man, do those lyrics resonate right now |
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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Baron Von Humongous wrote: | ChefLinda wrote: | Pathetic.
Quote: | Kasie Hunt @kasie NEW with @AlexNBCNews
Week of April 13 is earliest Americans will see direct deposit relief payments from the government; paper checks could take as long as 20 weeks -- nearly 5 months -- for some Americans
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The poorest Americans who need the money the most likely won't have direct deposit (however you filed your last tax return). In 5 months they will have been evicted. |
It's going to be a long recovery. The ballyhooed 4th phase stimulus plan from House Dems needs to be big with long timelines and automatic triggers. |
I'm sure McConnell will ignore any House Dem plans like he did for this most recent stimulus Senate bill. Like he's done for over 1/2 of the last decade. Hopefully Senate Dems can get some good in the next stimulus. But the GOP have the upper hand because they are unabashed masochists willing to hurt the financial security of the majority of the population just ... because.
It's scary how effective the GOP is. I hear more complaints about suppression (even though it's saving lives) than about the GOP's policy being woefully inadequate to support it. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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kikanga wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | ChefLinda wrote: | Pathetic.
Quote: | Kasie Hunt @kasie NEW with @AlexNBCNews
Week of April 13 is earliest Americans will see direct deposit relief payments from the government; paper checks could take as long as 20 weeks -- nearly 5 months -- for some Americans
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The poorest Americans who need the money the most likely won't have direct deposit (however you filed your last tax return). In 5 months they will have been evicted. |
It's going to be a long recovery. The ballyhooed 4th phase stimulus plan from House Dems needs to be big with long timelines and automatic triggers. |
I'm sure McConnell will ignore any House Dem plans like he did for this most recent stimulus Senate bill. Like he's done for over 1/2 of the last decade. Hopefully Senate Dems can get some good in the next stimulus. But the GOP have the upper hand because they are unabashed masochists willing to hold the financial security of the majority of the population hostage.
It's scary how effective the GOP is. I hear more complaints about suppression saving lives than about the GOP's policy being woefully inadequate. |
Conditions will probably get worse over the next two months and more economists are predicting now that there won't be a v-shaped bounceback in Q3. We'll see if that protracted downturn becomes reflected in GOP internal polling, which may be the only thing to move them. _________________ Under New Management |
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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ChefLinda wrote: | Pelosi also wants a universal vote by mail amendment as part of the bill. You know Mitch McConnell will never let that in. |
There may not be a functioning USPS by November.
Quote: | USPS warns it might have to shutter by June as $2 trillion coronavirus stimulus package provides no funding |
https://tinyurl.com/qwkwkm6 _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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ChefLinda Moderator
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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We are Rome and our Republic is crumbling around us. |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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ChefLinda wrote: | We are Rome and our Republic is crumbling around us. |
Then the world is screwed, too. The macabre thing is that the solutions are pretty obvious, but there's insufficient political will from GOP death cultists to do what needs to be done in a timely fashion. _________________ Under New Management
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greenfrog Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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ribeye wrote: | greenfrog wrote: | ribeye wrote: | greenfrog wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | ChefLinda wrote: | Pathetic.
Quote: | Kasie Hunt @kasie NEW with @AlexNBCNews
Week of April 13 is earliest Americans will see direct deposit relief payments from the government; paper checks could take as long as 20 weeks -- nearly 5 months -- for some Americans
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The poorest Americans who need the money the most likely won't have direct deposit (however you filed your last tax return). In 5 months they will have been evicted. |
It's going to be a long recovery. The ballyhooed 4th phase stimulus plan from House Dems needs to be big with long timelines and automatic triggers. |
lol
and what incentive is there for Republicans to do that? They already got everything they cared about in the 3rd one. |
Trump wants it. He wants to steal the Dems idea for infrastructure reform, which is really needed, is the best Keynesian approach, and politically savvy. |
Is construction even safe now? |
Of course not--well, maybe in Florida, Mississippi or one of those red states it would be. But we should hope it will be sometime this summer. |
The summer of 2021? Trump has always pretended to care about infrastructure to no avail, FWIW. |
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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Baron Von Humongous wrote: | kikanga wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | ChefLinda wrote: | Pathetic.
Quote: | Kasie Hunt @kasie NEW with @AlexNBCNews
Week of April 13 is earliest Americans will see direct deposit relief payments from the government; paper checks could take as long as 20 weeks -- nearly 5 months -- for some Americans
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The poorest Americans who need the money the most likely won't have direct deposit (however you filed your last tax return). In 5 months they will have been evicted. |
It's going to be a long recovery. The ballyhooed 4th phase stimulus plan from House Dems needs to be big with long timelines and automatic triggers. |
I'm sure McConnell will ignore any House Dem plans like he did for this most recent stimulus Senate bill. Like he's done for over 1/2 of the last decade. Hopefully Senate Dems can get some good in the next stimulus. But the GOP have the upper hand because they are unabashed masochists willing to hold the financial security of the majority of the population hostage.
It's scary how effective the GOP is. I hear more complaints about suppression saving lives than about the GOP's policy being woefully inadequate. |
Conditions will probably get worse over the next two months and more economists are predicting now that there won't be a v-shaped bounceback in Q3. We'll see if that protracted downturn becomes reflected in GOP internal polling, which may be the only thing to move them. |
Hope you're right.
I just know that there will be Trump fans on their death bed. Who got sick at one of his rallies. Listened to Trump when he downplayed the virus. Got other family members sick. Lived paycheck to paycheck for years because of GOP policy. Lost his healthcare along with his job due to this crisis. And his last words will be, "Thanks Obama". _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better”
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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kikanga wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | kikanga wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | ChefLinda wrote: | Pathetic.
Quote: | Kasie Hunt @kasie NEW with @AlexNBCNews
Week of April 13 is earliest Americans will see direct deposit relief payments from the government; paper checks could take as long as 20 weeks -- nearly 5 months -- for some Americans
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The poorest Americans who need the money the most likely won't have direct deposit (however you filed your last tax return). In 5 months they will have been evicted. |
It's going to be a long recovery. The ballyhooed 4th phase stimulus plan from House Dems needs to be big with long timelines and automatic triggers. |
I'm sure McConnell will ignore any House Dem plans like he did for this most recent stimulus Senate bill. Like he's done for over 1/2 of the last decade. Hopefully Senate Dems can get some good in the next stimulus. But the GOP have the upper hand because they are unabashed masochists willing to hold the financial security of the majority of the population hostage.
It's scary how effective the GOP is. I hear more complaints about suppression saving lives than about the GOP's policy being woefully inadequate. |
Conditions will probably get worse over the next two months and more economists are predicting now that there won't be a v-shaped bounceback in Q3. We'll see if that protracted downturn becomes reflected in GOP internal polling, which may be the only thing to move them. |
Hope you're right.
I just know that there will be Trump fans on their death bed. Who got sick at one of his rallies. Listened to Trump when he downplayed the virus. Got other family members sick. Lived paycheck to paycheck for years because of GOP policy. Lost his healthcare along with his job due to this crisis. And his last words will be, "Thanks Obama". |
No doubt. But how many other people are going to be sick of Trump and sick of McConnell in AZ, NC, CO, and ME? _________________ Under New Management |
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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Baron Von Humongous wrote: | ChefLinda wrote: | We are Rome and our Republic is crumbling around us. |
Then the world is screwed, too. The macabre thing is that the solutions are pretty obvious, but there's insufficient political will from GOP death cultists to do what needs to be done in a timely fashion. |
Which is why we should abstain from voting in November, because you know . . . that Ukraine/Creepy/Dementia thing _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Jason Isbell
Man, do those lyrics resonate right now |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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And all of these stimulus bills are a gift to the GOP because Democrats at least care a little bit about assuaging some of the pain of Americans. If the roles were reversed, McConnell would be chuckling in glee and looking forward to sweeping electoral victories on the backs of American lives. _________________ Under New Management |
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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ChefLinda wrote: | We are Rome and our Republic is crumbling around us. |
UBI and Medicare for All are the obvious solutions. Which side in our two-party duopoly is more likely to seize upon on them? I couldn't tell you. |
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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DaMuleRules wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | ChefLinda wrote: | We are Rome and our Republic is crumbling around us. |
Then the world is screwed, too. The macabre thing is that the solutions are pretty obvious, but there's insufficient political will from GOP death cultists to do what needs to be done in a timely fashion. |
Which is why we should abstain from voting in November, because you know . . . that Ukraine/Creepy/Dementia thing |
Quote: | Michael Grunwald
@MikeGrunwald
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I met these dudes in a Hispanic suburb south of Miami. They were fun, and also so scary they get a tweetstorm! 1 |
https://twitter.com/MikeGrunwald/status/1245729927024062464
Read that whole thread to really get your blood boiling. _________________ Under New Management |
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DaMuleRules Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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On another note: did ya' all do your Census duty? _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Jason Isbell
Man, do those lyrics resonate right now |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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greenfrog wrote: | ChefLinda wrote: | We are Rome and our Republic is crumbling around us. |
UBI and Medicare for All are the obvious solutions. Which side in our two-party duopoly is more likely to seize upon on them? I couldn't tell you. |
This is dumb even for you.
OUTFLANKED! _________________ Under New Management |
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ChefLinda Moderator
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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DaMuleRules wrote: | On another note: did ya' all do your Census duty? |
Yep, I did it online yesterday. |
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ChefLinda Moderator
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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Pasted from coronavirus thread:
ChefLinda wrote: | Coronavirus task force is expected to announce new guidelines that Americans wear masks or other protective facial cloth to prevent the spread of the virus (according to unnamed administration officials)
Quote: | Coronavirus task force is expected to announce new guidelines that Americans wear masks or other protective facial cloth to prevent the spread of the virus, according to three individuals familiar with those conversations, including two senior administration officials.
The decision to announce, first reported by Stat News, had been delayed, in part, by fears inside the White House over the optics of issuing new guidelines that directly contradicted those previously pushed out by the federal government, those same sources said. In internal deliberations, members of the administration’s coronavirus taskforce have worried that changing the messaging on masks could raise questions about whether the government made a mistake in its original guidelines, officials say. |
Quote: | Officials are also concerned that the new guidelines would end up worsening the supply problems for healthcare workers who are already running low on personal protective gear, including N95 respirators. As such, the administration's guidance is likely to encourage people to make their own masks at home, an official said.
On February 29, the country’s top doctor, Surgeon General Jerome Adams, posted a disclaimer on Twitter, asking Americans to stop buying masks. “They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus,” he said, adding that healthcare workers needed them to remain in the supply chain so they could more safely treat coronavirus patients. And the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has said that Americans do not need to wear masks unless they are sick and coughing or if they are taking care of a person with coronavirus.
A barrage of recently published scientific studies say otherwise. And Trump’s coronavirus task force, including officials from the CDC, have for weeks been looking at some of those papers which say the coronavirus can be spread by individuals who do not show symptoms through liquid droplet transmission. |
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DaMuleRules Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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Baron Von Humongous wrote: | greenfrog wrote: | ChefLinda wrote: | We are Rome and our Republic is crumbling around us. |
UBI and Medicare for All are the obvious solutions. Which side in our two-party duopoly is more likely to seize upon on them? I couldn't tell you. |
This is dumb even for you.
OUTFLANKED! |
Come on man! Say it with me now . . .
BOTH SIDES SAME!
BOTH SIDES SAME!
BOTH SIDES SAME!
BOTH SIDES SAME! _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Jason Isbell
Man, do those lyrics resonate right now |
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