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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 8:10 am Post subject:
Wilt wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
Freddie Buckets wrote:
LarryCoon wrote:
Bernie dropped out.
Thank goodness. Now the party can behind Biden and focus on beating Trump
Dropping out is still a long ways from giving Biden his support, which is very important if there is going to be any unity going into November.
I think he will. But he should do it soon and he should be genuine.
There are many in his movement that won't care and won't vote in November, even if Bernie gives the strongest endorsement possible.
Yeah, those people are beyond help or redemption . . . can't worry about those zealots and dolts. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Thank goodness. Now the party can behind Biden and focus on beating Trump
Dropping out is still a long ways from giving Biden his support, which is very important if there is going to be any unity going into November.
I think he will. But he should do it soon and he should be genuine.
There are many in his movement that won't care and won't vote in November, even if Bernie gives the strongest endorsement possible.
Yeah, those people are beyond help or redemption . . . can't worry about those zealots and dolts.
People who credulously believe that Trump will "outflank Dems to the left" and Trump will win 40+ states are either deep in the throes of the grieving process or are deluded zealots who need Biden to lose to punish those who didn't join Sanders' glorious revolution. _________________ Under New Management
Those people, while very loud on social media, are a minority of Bernie's movement. I still think that probably 3 out of 4 of his supporters will end up voting for Biden. And if there is a strong turnout among African Americans and if the non-college white vote in WI/MI/PA shows up for Biden (they refused to do it for Hillary because they hated her), we will win, despite the Republicans trying their best to cheat. _________________ ¡Hala Madrid!
Sanders won't release his delegates ahead of the convention and will keep his name on all primary and caucus ballots likely to try and accrue a sufficient number of delegates to have some platform leverage whenver they hold the DNC in Milwaukee. _________________ Under New Management
And just like that, thousands of Russian bots push the phrase "Congrats to Trump" to the top of twitter hashtags. They want you to think Bernie supporters are behind it and/or that Trump is a lock to beat Biden. Either way, don't fall for it.
This also came on the heels of Trump tweet blaming Warren and DNC for stealing nomination from Bernie and inviting his supporters to join him.
It's 2016 2.0.
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Those people, while very loud on social media, are a minority of Bernie's movement. I still think that probably 3 out of 4 of his supporters will end up voting for Biden. And if there is a strong turnout among African Americans and if the non-college white vote in WI/MI/PA shows up for Biden (they refused to do it for Hillary because they hated her), we will win, despite the Republicans trying their best to cheat.
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 8:45 am Post subject:
ChefLinda wrote:
Time to let the Bernie-bashing go. Time to let bashing his supporters go too. My .02.
I'd love to, but have to see how they conduct themselves from here on out. If they keep up with their Creepy, Demented Joe crap, the gloves are staying off. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Time to let the Bernie-bashing go. Time to let bashing his supporters go too. My .02.
I'd love to, but have to see how they conduct themselves from here on out. If they keep up with their Creepy, Demented Joe crap, the gloves are staying off.
I get it, but I'm speaking in general about his supporters who don't post here.
I think greenfrog said he wouldn't come back to this thread after Bernie was officially out?
But if people post shady propaganda articles I'm going to respond and debunk the propaganda like always. That's a little different than a direct insult. That's all I'm saying. They will do what they do. We can't persuade them, they have to persuade themselves. No use arguing with them.
Today, Senator Sanders announced he was suspending his campaign. Bernie has put his heart and soul into not only running for President, but for the causes and issues he has been dedicated to his whole life. So, I know how hard a decision this was for him to make — and how hard it is for the millions of his supporters — especially younger voters — who have been inspired and energized and brought into politics by the progressive agenda he has championed. Bernie has done something rare in politics. He hasn’t just run a political campaign; he’s created a movement. And make no mistake about it, I believe it’s a movement that is as powerful today as it was yesterday. That’s a good thing for our nation and our future.
Senator Sanders and his supporters have changed the dialogue in America. Issues which had been given little attention — or little hope of ever passing — are now at the center of the political debate. Income inequality, universal health care, climate change, free college, relieving students from the crushing debt of student loans. These are just a few of the issues Bernie and his supporters have given life to. And while Bernie and I may not agree on how we might get there, we agree on the ultimate goal for these issues and many more.
But more than any one issue or set of issues, I want to commend Bernie for being a powerful voice for a fairer and more just America. It’s voices like Bernie’s that refuse to allow us to just accept what is — that refuse to accept we can’t change what’s wrong in our nation — that refuse to accept the health and well-being of our fellow citizens and our planet isn’t our responsibility too. Bernie gets a lot of credit for his passionate advocacy for the issues he cares about. But he doesn’t get enough credit for being a voice that forces us all to take a hard look in the mirror and ask if we’ve done enough.
While the Sanders campaign has been suspended — its impact on this election and on elections to come is far from over. We will address the existential crisis of climate change. We will confront income inequality in our nation. We will make sure healthcare is affordable and accessible to every American. We will make education at our public colleges and universities free. We will ease the burden of student debt. And, most important of all, we will defeat Donald Trump.
At this moment, we are in the middle of an unprecedented crisis in American history. There is enormous fear and pain and loss being felt all across the country. There are also untold stories of heroism — of nurses and health care workers and doctors and first responders and grocery store workers and truck drivers and so many others on the front lines of this crisis. Putting their own lives in danger for the rest of us. If we didn’t know it before, we know it now: This is the backbone of our nation.
Our first job is to get through the immediate crisis threatening the public health and getting help into the pockets of America’s workers. But we also need to take a hard look at what we need to fix and change in this country. Many of the biggest cracks in the social safety net have been laid bare — from health care to paid sick leave to a more extensive and comprehensive system of unemployment benefits. We will need to address these. Just as we need to address rebuilding our nation’s infrastructure. And we all know — the clock is ticking — we don’t have a moment to waste in combating the climate crisis.
As friends, Jill and I want to say to Bernie and Jane, we know how hard this is. You have put the interest of the nation — and the need to defeat Donald Trump — above all else. And for that Jill and I are grateful. But we also want you to know: I’ll be reaching out to you. You will be heard by me. As you say: Not me, Us.
And to your supporters I make the same commitment: I see you, I hear you, and I understand the urgency of what it is we have to get done in this country. I hope you will join us. You are more than welcome. You’re needed.
Together we will defeat Donald Trump. And when we do that, we’ll not only do the hard work of rebuilding this nation — we’ll transform it.
Great statement by Biden. _________________ ¡Hala Madrid!
That's the presidential Joe Biden that the media needs to cover equally with the daily (bleep) show from the White House. I hope the media doesn't do Hillary 2.0.
Time to let the Bernie-bashing go. Time to let bashing his supporters go too. My .02.
I'm sure you mean by Democrats, or attacks from the left. As far as I am concerned, all Dem v Dem "attacks" should have stopped some 4+ years ago.
Legitimate and factual driven differences are always fine, but not attacks. Also, since there are no differences between the Democratic candidates, that will matter at this point, even these need to stop.
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Time to let the Bernie-bashing go. Time to let bashing his supporters go too. My .02.
I'd love to, but have to see how they conduct themselves from here on out. If they keep up with their Creepy, Demented Joe crap, the gloves are staying off.
Let's hope that loud minority on social media will become increasingly isolated. We don't need them to win the election. Russian bots and Trump's people will make sure to amplify that nonsense, but there's nothing we can do about it. Democrats will need to focus on turning out as many African-Americans, women, suburban people, and everybody else that is not likely to be influenced by the aforementioned nonsense. _________________ ¡Hala Madrid!
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 9:43 am Post subject:
ribeye wrote:
ChefLinda wrote:
Time to let the Bernie-bashing go. Time to let bashing his supporters go too. My .02.
I'm sure you mean by Democrats, or attacks from the left. As far as I am concerned, all Dem v Dem "attacks" should have stopped some 4+ years ago.
Legitimate and factual driven differences are always fine, but not attacks. Also, since there are no differences between the Democratic candidates, that will matter at this point, even these need to stop.
Something I've voiced for quite awhile. I know it's the nature of campaigning but IMO it needs to change. Voice issue differences, don't attack character. It gives the GOP ammunition. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:01 am Post subject:
ribeye wrote:
ChefLinda wrote:
Time to let the Bernie-bashing go. Time to let bashing his supporters go too. My .02.
I'm sure you mean by Democrats, or attacks from the left. As far as I am concerned, all Dem v Dem "attacks" should have stopped some 4+ years ago.
Legitimate and factual driven differences are always fine, but not attacks. Also, since there are no differences between the Democratic candidates, that will matter at this point, even these need to stop.
Agreed. Unfortunately there are too many who don't get how counter-productive that is and will continue to engage in it. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:02 am Post subject:
Wilt wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
ChefLinda wrote:
Time to let the Bernie-bashing go. Time to let bashing his supporters go too. My .02.
I'd love to, but have to see how they conduct themselves from here on out. If they keep up with their Creepy, Demented Joe crap, the gloves are staying off.
Let's hope that loud minority on social media will become increasingly isolated. We don't need them to win the election. Russian bots and Trump's people will make sure to amplify that nonsense, but there's nothing we can do about it. Democrats will need to focus on turning out as many African-Americans, women, suburban people, and everybody else that is not likely to be influenced by the aforementioned nonsense.
Yep. Focus on where there can be progress as opposed to beating ones head against a wall unwavering stubbornness. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Religulous yucks. "Fake news" evoked by pastor. Wonder where he got that term from. May the Covid pestilence strike these rubes down! Just spare the kids and anyone they meet outside of church. Please O Lord, hear my prayers.
Their message from Jesus is "F thy neighbor", I guess.
As far back as late November, U.S. intelligence officials were warning that a contagion was sweeping through China’s Wuhan region, changing the patterns of life and business and posing a threat to the population, according to four sources briefed on the secret reporting.
Concerns about what is now known to be the novel coronavirus pandemic were detailed in a November intelligence report by the military's National Center for Medical Intelligence (NCMI), according to two officials familiar with the document’s contents.
The report was the result of analysis of wire and computer intercepts, coupled with satellite images. It raised alarms because an out-of-control disease would pose a serious threat to U.S. forces in Asia -- forces that depend on the NCMI’s work. And it paints a picture of an American government that could have ramped up mitigation and containment efforts far earlier to prepare for a crisis poised to come home.
"Analysts concluded it could be a cataclysmic event," one of the sources said of the NCMI’s report. "It was then briefed multiple times to" the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Pentagon’s Joint Staff and the White House.
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From that warning in November, the sources described repeated briefings through December for policy-makers and decision-makers across the federal government as well as the National Security Council at the White House. All of that culminated with a detailed explanation of the problem that appeared in the President’s Daily Brief of intelligence matters in early January, the sources said. For something to have appeared in the PDB, it would have had to go through weeks of vetting and analysis, according to people who have worked on presidential briefings in both Republican and Democratic administrations.
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:13 am Post subject:
ContagiousInspiration wrote:
They weren't unprepared
They were preparing
to squeeze every last dollar out of These United States before November
There is NO other explanation
They're not that competent. But yes, the multinationals and their stooges in government hit pay dirt with this virus. Income inequality ossified for another generation. Trump Org and Kushner Inc. (whatever it's called) will make out like bandits and we'll never know.
Oops, not supposed to post anymore.
I'm now rooting for Biden to defeat Cuomo as the primary simply moves to another phase. It will be interesting if that sexual assault allegation finally gets some MSM play now that the coast is clear.
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:20 am Post subject:
greenfrog wrote:
ContagiousInspiration wrote:
They weren't unprepared
They were preparing
to squeeze every last dollar out of These United States before November
There is NO other explanation
They're not that competent. But yes, the multinationals and their stooges in government hit pay dirt with this virus.
Oops, not supposed to post anymore.
I'm now rooting for Biden to defeat Cuomo as the primary simply moves to another phase. It will be interesting if that sexual assault allegation finally gets some MSM play now that the coast is clear.
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I think they stalled intentionally... 110% no doubt in my mind. He is a Terrorist.. like soft porn.. he has killed us with a thousand slices
This is Republicans in a nutshell.. Wisconsin /eodemocracy
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In Green Bay, where only two of the city’s usual thirty-one polling sites were open, some voters endured a dangerous three-hour wait.
“Although I remain deeply concerned about the public health implications of voting in person today,” Evers said in a statement on Tuesday, “I am overwhelmed by the bravery, resilience, and heroism of those who are defending our democracy by showing up to vote, working the polls, and reporting on this election. Thank you for giving our state something to be proud of today.”
Former Vice President Joe Biden is leading President Trump by 8 points among voters nationwide, according to a new Quinnipiac University poll released on Wednesday.
The survey shows Biden with the support of 49 percent of voters, while Trump trails at 41 percent. The former vice president also leads Trump with key voting blocs, including independents, women and black voters, according to the poll.
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