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| Quote: | Since the founding of the United States, politicians and pundits have warned that partisanship is a danger to democracy. George Washington, in his Farewell Address, worried that political parties, or factions, could "allow cunning, ambitious and unprincipled men" to rise to power and subvert democracy. More recently, many political observers are concerned that increasing political polarization on left and right makes compromise impossible, and leads to the destruction of democratic norms and institutions.
A new study, however, suggests that the main threat to our democracy may not be the hardening of political ideology, but rather the hardening of one particular political ideology. Political scientists Steven V. Miller of Clemson and Nicholas T. Davis of Texas A&M have released a working paper titled "White Outgroup Intolerance and Declining Support for American Democracy." Their study finds a correlation between white American's intolerance, and support for authoritarian rule. In other words, when intolerant white people fear democracy may benefit marginalized people, they abandon their commitment to democracy. |
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| Omar Little wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | Omar Little wrote: | | ribeye wrote: | | non-player zealot wrote: | | Ann Coulter's been going off on The Don of late. Called him an actual re-tard yesterday. Is that old hack for her or is she jumping ship earlier than many of her cohorts? |
I don't think that Coulter is mad at Trump for being too wackadoodle, but for not being wackadoodle enough. |
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Damn!!! How much more wackadoodle can Frump get? |
Let’s hope we don’t have to find out |
I second that hope LINK
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| Omar Little wrote: | | Quote: | Since the founding of the United States, politicians and pundits have warned that partisanship is a danger to democracy. George Washington, in his Farewell Address, worried that political parties, or factions, could "allow cunning, ambitious and unprincipled men" to rise to power and subvert democracy. More recently, many political observers are concerned that increasing political polarization on left and right makes compromise impossible, and leads to the destruction of democratic norms and institutions.
A new study, however, suggests that the main threat to our democracy may not be the hardening of political ideology, but rather the hardening of one particular political ideology. Political scientists Steven V. Miller of Clemson and Nicholas T. Davis of Texas A&M have released a working paper titled "White Outgroup Intolerance and Declining Support for American Democracy." Their study finds a correlation between white American's intolerance, and support for authoritarian rule. In other words, when intolerant white people fear democracy may benefit marginalized people, they abandon their commitment to democracy. |
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The article is so true it's scary. It surfaces more angst Trump may win a second term.
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| Omar Little wrote: | | Quote: | Since the founding of the United States, politicians and pundits have warned that partisanship is a danger to democracy. George Washington, in his Farewell Address, worried that political parties, or factions, could "allow cunning, ambitious and unprincipled men" to rise to power and subvert democracy. More recently, many political observers are concerned that increasing political polarization on left and right makes compromise impossible, and leads to the destruction of democratic norms and institutions.
A new study, however, suggests that the main threat to our democracy may not be the hardening of political ideology, but rather the hardening of one particular political ideology. Political scientists Steven V. Miller of Clemson and Nicholas T. Davis of Texas A&M have released a working paper titled "White Outgroup Intolerance and Declining Support for American Democracy." Their study finds a correlation between white American's intolerance, and support for authoritarian rule. In other words, when intolerant white people fear democracy may benefit marginalized people, they abandon their commitment to democracy. |
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Interesting poll question there, in the context of an article ostensibly about racism: Do you think populism is a threat to democracy? 75% of NBC "Think" readers do.
Support M4A, UBI, Living Wage, Ending Forever Wars, Paycheck Guarantee, Federal Job programs > you're a racist or fascist. |
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| Omar Little wrote: | | Quote: | Since the founding of the United States, politicians and pundits have warned that partisanship is a danger to democracy. George Washington, in his Farewell Address, worried that political parties, or factions, could "allow cunning, ambitious and unprincipled men" to rise to power and subvert democracy. More recently, many political observers are concerned that increasing political polarization on left and right makes compromise impossible, and leads to the destruction of democratic norms and institutions.
A new study, however, suggests that the main threat to our democracy may not be the hardening of political ideology, but rather the hardening of one particular political ideology. Political scientists Steven V. Miller of Clemson and Nicholas T. Davis of Texas A&M have released a working paper titled "White Outgroup Intolerance and Declining Support for American Democracy." Their study finds a correlation between white American's intolerance, and support for authoritarian rule. In other words, when intolerant white people fear democracy may benefit marginalized people, they abandon their commitment to democracy. |
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In other, other words, going back to a recent CL post: If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you. Or if you can't, screw democracy. |
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ChefLinda
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| ribeye wrote: | | Omar Little wrote: | | Quote: | Since the founding of the United States, politicians and pundits have warned that partisanship is a danger to democracy. George Washington, in his Farewell Address, worried that political parties, or factions, could "allow cunning, ambitious and unprincipled men" to rise to power and subvert democracy. More recently, many political observers are concerned that increasing political polarization on left and right makes compromise impossible, and leads to the destruction of democratic norms and institutions.
A new study, however, suggests that the main threat to our democracy may not be the hardening of political ideology, but rather the hardening of one particular political ideology. Political scientists Steven V. Miller of Clemson and Nicholas T. Davis of Texas A&M have released a working paper titled "White Outgroup Intolerance and Declining Support for American Democracy." Their study finds a correlation between white American's intolerance, and support for authoritarian rule. In other words, when intolerant white people fear democracy may benefit marginalized people, they abandon their commitment to democracy. |
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In other, other words, going back to a recent CL post: If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you. Or if you can't, screw democracy. |
Yup. And this is why I have never given Trump voters the benefit of the doubt. They knew what they were buying into. The core racism in Trump's message was always a feature not a bug. |
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Why hasn't anyone in the Media called Trump a Terrorist
100,000 strong now and Kushner is still in charge of States PPE.. what the (bleep) is this (bleep)
CDC handcuffed
CDC dismantled in China
Pandemic Response plan.. thrown away
Supplies.. never checked on
Not enough supplies oh... good time for some extortion.QPQ
Zero Integrity and Zero (bleep) given
How do we diagnose the psychology of a brain in a trump supporters head? Is this something Genetic? Education? We need to figure out how our Country got this (bleep) up.. Trump voters have no (bleep) idea how much theft Trump and his friends have done that will COST THEM more than they could ever comprehend
Trump supporters would let him destroy our Postal Service?? Is there anything revolting to them other than their own reflection? |
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| ContagiousInspiration wrote: | Why hasn't anyone in the Media called Trump a Terrorist
100,000 strong now and Kushner is still in charge of States PPE.. what the (bleep) is this (bleep)
CDC handcuffed
CDC dismantled in China
Pandemic Response plan.. thrown away
Supplies.. never checked on
Not enough supplies oh... good time for some extortion.QPQ
Zero Integrity and Zero (bleep) given
How do we diagnose the psychology of a brain in a trump supporters head? Is this something Genetic? Education? We need to figure out how our Country got this (bleep) up.. Trump voters have no (bleep) idea how much theft Trump and his friends have done that will COST THEM more than they could ever comprehend
Trump supporters would let him destroy our Postal Service?? Is there anything revolting to them other than their own reflection? |
I mean...why has not one newspaper editorial board demanded Trump resign? There were over 100 editorials from across the country in 1998 demanding Clinton resign including from the editorial boards of USA Today and the Chicago Tribune. But now there hasn't been a single call from a legacy print publication for Trump to step down when even the most inept response from Pence would make him look like FDR in comparison to Trump's sociopathic incompetence.
Let's just see them start with something that obvious and simple before going all in on the terrorist rhetoric.
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | ContagiousInspiration wrote: | Why hasn't anyone in the Media called Trump a Terrorist
100,000 strong now and Kushner is still in charge of States PPE.. what the (bleep) is this (bleep)
CDC handcuffed
CDC dismantled in China
Pandemic Response plan.. thrown away
Supplies.. never checked on
Not enough supplies oh... good time for some extortion.QPQ
Zero Integrity and Zero (bleep) given
How do we diagnose the psychology of a brain in a trump supporters head? Is this something Genetic? Education? We need to figure out how our Country got this (bleep) up.. Trump voters have no (bleep) idea how much theft Trump and his friends have done that will COST THEM more than they could ever comprehend
Trump supporters would let him destroy our Postal Service?? Is there anything revolting to them other than their own reflection? |
I mean...why has not one newspaper editorial board demanded Trump resign? There were over 100 editorials from across the country in 1998 demanding Clinton resign including from the editorial boards of USA Today and the Chicago Tribune. But now there hasn't been a single call from a legacy print publication for Trump to step down when even the most inept response from Pence would make him look like FDR in comparison to Trump's sociopathic incompetence.
Let's just see them start with something that obvious and simple before going all in on the terrorist rhetoric. |
Thank you BVH. I was sort of pissed of when I wrote that 
Demanding Clinton resign over personal consensual adult actions...please don't make me think the media isn't Liberal Lamestream Media...it's just easier than accepting Rich people will kill humanity for extra dollars |
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Vanity Fair - “This Is So Unfair to Me”: Trump Whines About His COVID-19 Victimhood as Campaign Flails
| Quote: | As he headed into Memorial Day weekend, Donald Trump complained that he was COVID-19’s biggest victim. “He was just in a (bleep) rage,” said a person who spoke with Trump late last week. “He was saying, ‘This is so unfair to me! Everything was going great. We were cruising to reelection!” Even as the death toll neared 100,000 and unemployment ranks swelled to over 38 million, Trump couldn’t see the pandemic as anything other than something that had happened to him. “The problem is he has no empathy,” the adviser said. Trump complained that he should have been warned about the virus sooner. “The intelligence community let me down!” he said.
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| Quote: | Even those closest to Trump have been privately worried the election is slipping away. According to a source, Melania Trump warned the president during their trip to India in February to take the virus response seriously. “He totally blew her off,” the source said. Melania later told people that Trump “only hears what he wants to hear and surrounds himself with yes-people and family,” the source added.
The first lady’s office did not respond to a request for comment. |
Even Melania knew it was going to be bad.
The outrage about his tweets has finally forced Twitter to put a FactCheckWarning on some of his tweets. He tweeted that mail-in balloting was an attempt to fix and steal the election -- so Twitter linked to a story disproving that.
Now Trump is melting down on Twitter whining that his "free speech" is being violated. |
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| Quote: | President Donald Trump told a reporter to take off his mask during a White House news conference on Tuesday.
Trump said he had a hard time hearing Reuters White House correspondent Jeff Mason ask his question.
Mason said he would just speak louder instead ― and Trump used one of his go-to lines to mock the reporter.
“Oh, OK, because you want to be politically correct,” the president said at the Rose Garden event.
“No, sir, I just want to wear the mask,” Mason replied. After the event, the reporter tweeted a link to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s recommendations for face coverings to prevent the spread of the coronavirus. |
What a monster.
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| Wilt wrote: | | Quote: | President Donald Trump told a reporter to take off his mask during a White House news conference on Tuesday.
Trump said he had a hard time hearing Reuters White House correspondent Jeff Mason ask his question.
Mason said he would just speak louder instead ― and Trump used one of his go-to lines to mock the reporter.
“Oh, OK, because you want to be politically correct,” the president said at the Rose Garden event.
“No, sir, I just want to wear the mask,” Mason replied. After the event, the reporter tweeted a link to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s recommendations for face coverings to prevent the spread of the coronavirus. |
What a monster. |
Actually, Donald Trump is A Terrorist! |
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| ChefLinda wrote: | Vanity Fair - “This Is So Unfair to Me”: Trump Whines About His COVID-19 Victimhood as Campaign Flails
| Quote: | As he headed into Memorial Day weekend, Donald Trump complained that he was COVID-19’s biggest victim. “He was just in a (bleep) rage,” said a person who spoke with Trump late last week. “He was saying, ‘This is so unfair to me! Everything was going great. We were cruising to reelection!” Even as the death toll neared 100,000 and unemployment ranks swelled to over 38 million, Trump couldn’t see the pandemic as anything other than something that had happened to him. “The problem is he has no empathy,” the adviser said. Trump complained that he should have been warned about the virus sooner. “The intelligence community let me down!” he said.
The White House declined to comment. |
| Quote: | Even those closest to Trump have been privately worried the election is slipping away. According to a source, Melania Trump warned the president during their trip to India in February to take the virus response seriously. “He totally blew her off,” the source said. Melania later told people that Trump “only hears what he wants to hear and surrounds himself with yes-people and family,” the source added.
The first lady’s office did not respond to a request for comment. |
Even Melania knew it was going to be bad.
The outrage about his tweets has finally forced Twitter to put a FactCheckWarning on some of his tweets. He tweeted that mail-in balloting was an attempt to fix and steal the election -- so Twitter linked to a story disproving that.
Now Trump is melting down on Twitter whining that his "free speech" is being violated. |
From the same article: | Quote: | | And when he’s not feeling helpless or aggrieved, Trump continues to cling to magical thinking. “He lives in his own (bleep) world,” the outside adviser said. |
Yes, ladies and gents, the President of these United States. Freaking clown show.
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| Quote: | Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 7h
@Twitter is now interfering in the 2020 Presidential Election," Trump tweeted. "They are saying my statement on Mail-In Ballots, which will lead to massive corruption and fraud, is incorrect, based on fact-checking by Fake News CNN and the Amazon Washington Post ... Twitter is completely stifling FREE SPEECH, and I, as President, will not allow it to happen! |
The fact that 40%ish of voters support this guy makes me ashamed to be an American.
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Now that Twitter has decided to fact check some of his tweets, watch Trumps supporters argue that his other lies not fact checked must be true or else Twitter would have fact checked them. I get why Twitter is hesitant. A policy where you fact check sometimes st not others would seem to create a PR problem. Maybe even worse than not fact checking at all.
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| LakerSanity wrote: | | Now that Twitter has decided to fact check some of his tweets, watch Trumps supporters argue that his other lies not fact checked must be true or else Twitter would have fact checked them. I get why Twitter is hesitant. A policy where you fact check sometimes st not others would seem to create a PR problem. Maybe even worse than not fact checking at all. |
Good point.
However, I don't think that fear of not being able to fact check everything is a good excuse to let blatantly false information you know about go unchecked.
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| LakerSanity wrote: | | Now that Twitter has decided to fact check some of his tweets, watch Trumps supporters argue that his other lies not fact checked must be true or else Twitter would have fact checked them. I get why Twitter is hesitant. A policy where you fact check sometimes st not others would seem to create a PR problem. Maybe even worse than not fact checking at all. |
It's a gift to Trump. His only conceivable shot at reelection is if he can obfuscate the race with mini cultural battles to steer the light away from his actual horrific performance. Sparking a techlash on the right feeds directly into it. He should write Mika a thank you note. I genuinely wonder if these cable news Resistance celebs would prefer another 4 years of him.
https://twitter.com/BrentHBaker/status/1047287106865979392?s=20 |
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Interfering with the 2020 presidential election. Hypocrisy at the apex. His lap dog Barf will try to find a way to give him his way.
Trump threatens to regulate or close social media after Twitter fact-checks him
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Trump replied on Twitter, accusing the platform of “interfering in the 2020 | Quote: | | Presidential Election” and insisting that “as president, I will not allow this to happen.” His 2020 campaign manager, Brad Parscale, said Twitter’s “clear political bias” had led the campaign to pull “all our advertising from Twitter months ago.” Twitter has banned all political advertising since last November. |
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Shouldn't people who post on Twitter be called Twits?
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Feel like this fits here
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/feb/29/paul-singer-elliott-management-twitter-jack-dorsey
Republican Mega PAC buys huge stake in Twitter and tries to oust Dorsey
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FWIW
Yesterday when Twitter first said they would not stop trump from saying that reporter murdered someone..
The Internet took off saying Dorsey murdered a few people... lol... might have had something to do with them putting the label on Trumps tweets?
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Caveat: It's not November yet, everything could change, no one has voted so vote like your life depends on it. Rasmussen is the right wing poll that always swings way right.
Trump job approval falls to 2-year low in Rasmussen poll
| Quote: | President Trump's job approval sank towards a two-year low on Wednesday, according to poll from the right-leaning polling firm Rasmussen.
The poll released Wednesday shows 42 percent of likely U.S. voters approve of Trump's job performance while 57 percent disapprove.
That's a net 4-point drop in approval since Friday and marks the lowest level for the president since Jan. 22, 2018, when Trump's approval rating was underwater, 42 percent to 56 percent.
The latest figures also show that 30 percent of likely voters "strongly approve" of Trump's work in office while 47 percent "strongly disapprove," giving him a net negative approval index rating of 17 percent – the biggest margin since January 2019, according to Rasmussen's figures. |
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| LakerSanity wrote: | | Now that Twitter has decided to fact check some of his tweets, watch Trumps supporters argue that his other lies not fact checked must be true or else Twitter would have fact checked them. I get why Twitter is hesitant. A policy where you fact check sometimes st not others would seem to create a PR problem. Maybe even worse than not fact checking at all. |
I think Twitter saw this:
| Quote: | People are accusing Jack Dorsey of murder to test if Trump is receiving preferential treatment
Twitter won't remove murder accusations made by Trump against MSNBC host Joe Scarborough. |
And then... Twitter decided fact checking is the lesser evil.
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| greenfrog wrote: | It's a gift to Trump. His only conceivable shot at reelection is if he can obfuscate the race with mini cultural battles to steer the light away from his actual horrific performance. Sparking a techlash on the right feeds directly into it. He should write Mika a thank you note. I genuinely wonder if these cable news Resistance celebs would prefer another 4 years of him.
https://twitter.com/BrentHBaker/status/1047287106865979392?s=20 |
Trump and his followers seemlessly jump back and forth between victor and victim. It screams bat (bleep) crazy.
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| Quote: | Political Polls @Politics_Polls
Arizona Senate GE:
Mark Kelly (D) 51% (+10)
Martha McSally (R-inc) 41%
South Carolina Senate GE:
Jaime Harrison (D) 42% (!!!!)
Lindsey Graham (R-inc) 42%
Generic Congressional Ballot:
Democrats 47% (+8)
Republicans 39%
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Trump and his followers seemlessly jump back and forth between victor and victim. It screams bat (bleep) crazy. |
Textbook authoritarian behavior. That's how you project power but also spread fear.
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