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ContagiousInspiration
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It was incredibly touching to see. (Humanity)
They did the same last night in Minny |
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eddiejonze
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| Palin wrote: | | https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/05/breaking-dni-ratcliffe-releases-flynn-kislyak-transcripts-senators-grassley-johnson-flynn-not/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons |
COOL STORY BRO!!!
Any comment (or super cool link) on Flynn not registering as a "foreign agent" working for Turkey?
Yeah, that's what I thought.
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Hector the Pup
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| Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 7:09 am Post subject: |
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| Tin soldiers and Nixon coming |
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Surfitall
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| Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 8:01 am Post subject: |
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| eddiejonze wrote: | | Palin wrote: | | https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/05/breaking-dni-ratcliffe-releases-flynn-kislyak-transcripts-senators-grassley-johnson-flynn-not/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons |
COOL STORY BRO!!!
Any comment (or super cool link) on Flynn not registering as a "foreign agent" working for Turkey?
Yeah, that's what I thought. |
You post prompted me to dig deeper into the broader Michael Flynn story. I found this exhaustive article describing the proper and improper as it relates to the Flynn case:
https://www.justsecurity.org/70431/understanding-the-michael-flynn-case-separating-the-wheat-from-the-chaff-and-the-proper-from-the-improper/ |
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eddiejonze
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| Surfitall wrote: | | eddiejonze wrote: | | Palin wrote: | | https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/05/breaking-dni-ratcliffe-releases-flynn-kislyak-transcripts-senators-grassley-johnson-flynn-not/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons |
COOL STORY BRO!!!
Any comment (or super cool link) on Flynn not registering as a "foreign agent" working for Turkey?
Yeah, that's what I thought. |
You post prompted me to dig deeper into the broader Michael Flynn story. I found this exhaustive article describing the proper and improper as it relates to the Flynn case:
https://www.justsecurity.org/70431/understanding-the-michael-flynn-case-separating-the-wheat-from-the-chaff-and-the-proper-from-the-improper/ |
Good article, legalese aside- Everyone who is aware of the story would agree ( except for the Turkish Gov't) that if Gulen was extradited, he would be murdered.
To tie it to basketball, Enes Kanter can't go back to Turkey for fear of imprisonment for being a Gulen supporter.
Flynn was trying to get Gulen extradited back to Turkey knowing that once he got there, gulen would be murdered.
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So, the SCOTUS rejected a request from California church to block restrictions on in-person services. This was another 5-4 decision and the second major case where Roberts broke from the conservative block to join the four moderates on the court.
| Quote: | | Kavanaugh, writing for Thomas and Gorsuch, said the church would suffer "irreparable harm from not being able to hold services on Pentecost Sunday in a way that comparable secular businesses and persons can conduct their activities." |
Someone explain to me how the restrictions on a large gathering church is any different from the restrictions on a large secular gathering. Then explain to me how four justices could not see this, except in honoring their preconception in which their faith obscures their critical reasoning. |
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ChefLinda
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| Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 9:09 am Post subject: |
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| ribeye wrote: | So, the SCOTUS rejected a request from California church to block restrictions on in-person services. This was another 5-4 decision and the second major case where Roberts broke from the conservative block to join the four moderates on the court.
| Quote: | | Kavanaugh, writing for Thomas and Gorsuch, said the church would suffer "irreparable harm from not being able to hold services on Pentecost Sunday in a way that comparable secular businesses and persons can conduct their activities." |
Someone explain to me how the restrictions on a large gathering church is any different from the restrictions on a large secular gathering. Then explain to me how four justices could not see this, except in honoring their preconception in which their faith obscures their critical reasoning. |
This is about maintaining white male supremacy (as entrenched in both the Bible and the Constitution). They'd rather cling to their racism, religion and white privilege even if it means other white people have to die -- as long as black people and other POC are harmed more, they're good. Clarence Thomas' status as a Supreme Court judge who can never be fired basically grants him all the benefits of white male supremacy, so he's good too. |
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https://www.justsecurity.org/70431/understanding-the-michael-flynn-case-separating-the-wheat-from-the-chaff-and-the-proper-from-the-improper
| Quote: | | The first calls occurred on December 22 and 23, 2016. Egypt had submitted a resolution to the United Nations Security Council calling on Israel to cease settlement activities in Palestinian territory. There were press reports that the Obama Administration had decided the United States would abstain on the vote. Led by Jared Kushner, multiple members of the Trump transition team, including President-Elect Trump himself, tried to rally support among foreign government officials to delay the vote, or to have their nations vote to defeat the resolution (a course of action that the Obama Administration itself did not undertake and presumably wouldn’t have approved). Under instructions from Kushner, Flynn contacted Kislyak on December 22 to request that Russia vote against or delay the resolution. At that point, Egypt postponed the vote, but the next day, Malaysia, New Zealand, Senegal, and Venezuela resubmitted the resolution, and Flynn again lobbied Kislyak to have Russia intervene to stymie the resolution. Russia did not do so, and on the 23d the Security Council adopted Resolution 2334 by a vote of 14-0 (including Russia), with the U.S. alone abstaining. |
There's the actual documented evidence of collusion. Coordinated and specific, but it was at the behest of Israel and Sheldon Anderson so no biggie.
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This is a rhetorical question, but...
What president has ever won re-election during a period of the highest unemployment in our history, the worst pandemic in our history with likely nearly 200K deaths by election time, with nationwide unrest, protests and discord in part stoked by that same president? A president with a 100-word vocabulary who doesn't read or process information, who told 25 lies a day, who has never been presidential or expressed an ounce of empathy for anyone who didn't vote for him? A president who never divested from his businesses, who commits daily corruption by profiting off the US government, spent a third of his time in office golfing at one of his resorts? A president who is a literal psychopath who feels no guilt, no shame, no remorse, no empathy, no sympathy and who would burn the country to the ground without batting an eyelash if it served his pocket book or his ego or his lust for power?
Everyone should request a mail-in ballot as early as possible and vote by mail to make sure you are able to vote given the chaotic climate of the pandemic and Trump/GOP/Russia voting shenanigans.
Here's how to double check to see if you are still registered to vote and request a ballot by mail: https://www.voteamerica.com/ |
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| ChefLinda wrote: | | Clarence Thomas' status as a Supreme Court judge who can never be fired basically grants him all the benefits of white male supremacy, so he's good too. |
He sounds like one but in no way looks like one. In his mind, though, he is one. |
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The Dontard now ranting on about ANTIFA and the radial Left leadership of MN as the culprit for these riots.
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| LonzoLegend2 wrote: | | The Dontard now ranting on about ANTIFA and the radial Left leadership of MN as the culprit for these riots. |
Its called "Projection"
I say he himself and the people he is associated with are the ones who need investigated.
Where are those Iraq Killer Soldiers trump Pardoned? Doing dirty tricks for the pres?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone << his whole life dedicated to dirty political trickery |
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#WhiteTrashRacistThugInChief
NYT: In Days of Discord, a President Fans the Flames. Mr. Trump has presented himself as someone who seeks conflict, not conciliation, a fighter, not a peacemaker. And he has lived up to his self-image at a perilous time.
| Quote: | WASHINGTON — With a nation on edge, ravaged by disease, hammered by economic collapse, divided over lockdowns and even face masks and now convulsed once again by race, President Trump’s first instinct has been to look for someone to fight.
Over the last week, America reeled from 100,000 pandemic deaths, 40 million people out of work and cities in flames over a brutal police killing of a subdued black man. But Mr. Trump was on the attack against China, the World Health Organization, Big Tech, former President Barack Obama, a cable television host and the mayor of a riot-torn city.
While other presidents seek to cool the situation in tinderbox moments like this, Mr. Trump plays with matches. He roars into any melee he finds, encouraging street uprisings against public health measures advanced by his own government, hurling made-up murder charges against a critic, accusing his predecessor of unspecified crimes, vowing to crack down on a social media company that angered him and then seemingly threatening to meet violence with violence in Minneapolis.
As several cities erupted in street protests after the killing of George Floyd, some of them resulting in clashes with the police, Mr. Trump made no appeal for calm. Instead in a series of tweets and comments to reporters on Saturday, he blamed the unrest on Democrats, called on “Liberal Governors and Mayors” to get “MUCH tougher” on the crowds, threatened to intervened with “the unlimited power of our Military” and even summoned his own supporters to mount a counterdemonstration. |
| Quote: | Such a moment would challenge any president, of course. It has been a year of national trauma that started out feeling like another 1998 with impeachment, then another 1918 with a killer pandemic combined with another 1929 given the shattering economic fallout. Now add to that another 1968, a year of deep social unrest.
It is fair to say that 2020 has turned out to be a year that has frayed the fabric of American society with an accumulation of anguish that has whipsawed the country and its people. But in some ways, Mr. Trump has become a combatant on one side of the divide rather than a mender of it, a totem for the nation’s polarization.
“I am daily thinking about why and how a society unravels and what we can do to stop the process,” said Timothy Naftali, a presidential historian at New York University. “The calamity these days is about more than Trump. He is just the malicious con man who lives to exploit our vulnerabilities.” |
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I think with Trump we ALWAYS need to be look at what's going on behind door #2
All that hulabaloo is usually Trump trying to hide something big going on behind the scenes.
Start a fight over here and there and there and nobody can focus on your Vetoing Students Rights and your friends Loeffler getting off for insider trading while you waited to watch Americans die
aha... All the (bleep) was coming out about ALL the Republicans who Vote By Mail yet are now against it... He really wants that USPS DEAD.. He thinks it is his only hope for any re-election. Will do anything to discredit it... even install his own stooges as Administrators to destroy it from within |
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| Hector the Pup wrote: | | Tin soldiers and Nixon coming |
Let's hope not.
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ABC: 'No Blame?' ABC News finds 54 cases invoking 'Trump' in connection with violence, threats, alleged assaults. President Donald Trump insists he deserves no blame for divisions in America.
| Quote: | President Donald Trump has repeatedly distanced himself from acts of violence in communities across America, dismissing critics who point to his rhetoric as a potential source of inspiration or comfort for anyone acting on even long-held beliefs of bigotry and hate.
"I think my rhetoric brings people together," he said last year, four days after a 21-year-old allegedly posted an anti-immigrant screed online and then allegedly opened fire at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas, killing 22 and injuring dozens of others.
But a nationwide review conducted by ABC News has identified at least 54 criminal cases where Trump was invoked in direct connection with violent acts, threats of violence or allegations of assault. |
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| greenfrog wrote: | https://www.justsecurity.org/70431/understanding-the-michael-flynn-case-separating-the-wheat-from-the-chaff-and-the-proper-from-the-improper
| Quote: | | The first calls occurred on December 22 and 23, 2016. Egypt had submitted a resolution to the United Nations Security Council calling on Israel to cease settlement activities in Palestinian territory. There were press reports that the Obama Administration had decided the United States would abstain on the vote. Led by Jared Kushner, multiple members of the Trump transition team, including President-Elect Trump himself, tried to rally support among foreign government officials to delay the vote, or to have their nations vote to defeat the resolution (a course of action that the Obama Administration itself did not undertake and presumably wouldn’t have approved). Under instructions from Kushner, Flynn contacted Kislyak on December 22 to request that Russia vote against or delay the resolution. At that point, Egypt postponed the vote, but the next day, Malaysia, New Zealand, Senegal, and Venezuela resubmitted the resolution, and Flynn again lobbied Kislyak to have Russia intervene to stymie the resolution. Russia did not do so, and on the 23d the Security Council adopted Resolution 2334 by a vote of 14-0 (including Russia), with the U.S. alone abstaining. |
There's the actual documented evidence of collusion. Coordinated and specific, but it was at the behest of Israel and Sheldon Anderson so no biggie. |
I know you are not suggesting that this is directly tied to the Trump campaign directly colluding with the Russians to impact our election, which is what everyone else talks about when they are talking about collusion, so what are you talking about here? |
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This was from March 10th:
NYT: Russia Trying to Stoke U.S. Racial Tensions Before Election, Officials Say. Russian intelligence services are trying to incite violence by white supremacist groups to sow chaos in the United States, American intelligence officials said.
| Quote: | The Russian government has stepped up efforts to inflame racial tensions in the United States as part of its bid to influence November’s presidential election, including trying to incite violence by white supremacist groups and to stoke anger among African-Americans, according to seven American officials briefed on recent intelligence.
Russia’s lead intelligence agency, the S.V.R., has apparently gone beyond 2016 methods of interference, when operatives tried to stoke racial animosity by creating fake Black Lives Matter groups and spreading disinformation to depress black voter turnout. Now, Russia is also trying to influence white supremacist groups, the officials said; they gave few details, but one official said federal investigators are examining how at least one neo-Nazi organization with ties to Russia is funded.
Other Russian efforts, which American intelligence agencies have tracked, involve simply prodding white nationalists to more aggressively spread hate messages and amplifying their invective. Russian operatives are also trying to push black extremist groups toward violence, according to multiple officials, though they did not detail how. |
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Mueller Memos Part 7: These Documents Reveal What People Close To The President Told Mueller’s Team About Trump And Russia
| Quote: | | Former deputy campaign manager Rick Gates said the Trump campaign couldn’t afford to buy the advertising time they had wanted until then-FBI Director James Comey announced he was reopening the inquiry into Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server. “The [James] Comey email scenario helped – the last ten days before the election were good from a fundraising perspective.” [Emphasis mine] |
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| Surfitall wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | https://www.justsecurity.org/70431/understanding-the-michael-flynn-case-separating-the-wheat-from-the-chaff-and-the-proper-from-the-improper
| Quote: | | The first calls occurred on December 22 and 23, 2016. Egypt had submitted a resolution to the United Nations Security Council calling on Israel to cease settlement activities in Palestinian territory. There were press reports that the Obama Administration had decided the United States would abstain on the vote. Led by Jared Kushner, multiple members of the Trump transition team, including President-Elect Trump himself, tried to rally support among foreign government officials to delay the vote, or to have their nations vote to defeat the resolution (a course of action that the Obama Administration itself did not undertake and presumably wouldn’t have approved). Under instructions from Kushner, Flynn contacted Kislyak on December 22 to request that Russia vote against or delay the resolution. At that point, Egypt postponed the vote, but the next day, Malaysia, New Zealand, Senegal, and Venezuela resubmitted the resolution, and Flynn again lobbied Kislyak to have Russia intervene to stymie the resolution. Russia did not do so, and on the 23d the Security Council adopted Resolution 2334 by a vote of 14-0 (including Russia), with the U.S. alone abstaining. |
There's the actual documented evidence of collusion. Coordinated and specific, but it was at the behest of Israel and Sheldon Anderson so no biggie. |
I know you are not suggesting that this is directly tied to the Trump campaign directly colluding with the Russians to impact our election, which is what everyone else talks about when they are talking about collusion, so what are you talking about here? |
That they directly colluded with a foreign government to undermine the Obama administration. It just happened to be with Israel to sink a U.N. resolution so it's not considered a scandal by the media (including the author of the piece who's bias is off the charts) or the national security state because they agreed with it. |
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| SpaceX and NASA launched astronauts into orbit from US soil for the first time in 9 years today, a huge accomplishment and also the first time in history a private company has sent astronauts into space on their own rocket (previous rockets were built by private companies but used designs from and were owned by NASA). It was glorious to watch, and then ruined by Trump taking the opportunity to preen and then use this moment to talk about sending weapons into space. |
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| SweetP wrote: | | Hector the Pup wrote: | | Tin soldiers and Nixon coming |
Let's hope not. |
Wish it wasn't but I've seen this movie before. Unfortunately the special effects are going to be way better this time. |
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| I believe most people in this country are good, decent human beings. But I also believe that Trump's most grotesque talent is bringing out the absolute worst in people and unmasking their most vile instincts. He has to go. He's literally killing us and tearing this country apart. |
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