Up to now, though, the Biden campaign has done little to demonstrate that it will make a major effort before the Nov. 3 general election in Texas. The state hasn’t voted for a Democrat in a presidential election since Jimmy Carter carried the state in 1976.
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I thought Billy got Texas in 92, dunno where that came from. Carter is interesting since he was a complete unknown at the time of his bid and his election was based on the slogan that he would never lie to the American public. Carter was a referendum on the lawlessness and deceitfulness of Nixon's presidency. Nixon's was also an imperial presidency whereas Biden is folksy as was Jimmy. America reeled over all the scandal in Nixon's terms and it surely has under Trump. Biden could not only be the first election of this kind since Carter, but he might be a 1 termer himself given his age. I hope that's not the case, but he'd have to become the first octopus to win it in 2024. That's cart well ahead of the horse tho. _________________ GOAT MAGIC REEL SEDALE TRIBUTE EDDIE DONX!
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Apparently Trump’s campaign people think Trump reluctantly putting on a mask months into the pandemic is somehow the knockout punch to Joe Biden’s campaign.
Not only is this obviously ridiculous, but BFD he wore a mask ONCE inside Walter Reed where everyone is REQUIRED to wear a mask. He didn't wear one when he played golf today. And I guarantee he won't be wearing one the next time the press shouts questions at him as he is strolling to the helicopter. Good lord, what a low, low bar for such a tiny, tiny man.
Apparently Trump’s campaign people think Trump reluctantly putting on a mask months into the pandemic is somehow the knockout punch to Joe Biden’s campaign.
Not only is this obviously ridiculous, but BFD he wore a mask ONCE inside Walter Reed where everyone is REQUIRED to wear a mask. He didn't wear one when he played golf today. And I guarantee he won't be wearing one the next time the press shouts questions at him as he is strolling to the helicopter. Good lord, what a low, low bar for such a tiny, tiny man.
God, look how lockstep they all were after he wore it for part of his visit and uncovered his nose for another part. They evidently thought that if they could just get him to wear it once and then all gave him public praise as a collective, then Donald would feel like it is something he oughta do more often simply because he responds favorably to empty praise. _________________ GOAT MAGIC REEL SEDALE TRIBUTE EDDIE DONX!
Easy prediction: mass evictions on 8/1, the end of boosted UI, and the battle to force children and teachers back to public schools during a worsening pandemic will make August one of the worst months in modern American history. _________________ Under New Management
Apparently Trump’s campaign people think Trump reluctantly putting on a mask months into the pandemic is somehow the knockout punch to Joe Biden’s campaign.
Not only is this obviously ridiculous, but BFD he wore a mask ONCE inside Walter Reed where everyone is REQUIRED to wear a mask. He didn't wear one when he played golf today. And I guarantee he won't be wearing one the next time the press shouts questions at him as he is strolling to the helicopter. Good lord, what a low, low bar for such a tiny, tiny man.
It just is humorous to see the people who were against masks turn on a dime to be for them when Trump wears them.
If Trump doesn't continually wear a mask from this point forward they will be back to being against them.
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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:48 pm Post subject:
Theseus wrote:
ChefLinda wrote:
trmiv wrote:
Apparently Trump’s campaign people think Trump reluctantly putting on a mask months into the pandemic is somehow the knockout punch to Joe Biden’s campaign.
Not only is this obviously ridiculous, but BFD he wore a mask ONCE inside Walter Reed where everyone is REQUIRED to wear a mask. He didn't wear one when he played golf today. And I guarantee he won't be wearing one the next time the press shouts questions at him as he is strolling to the helicopter. Good lord, what a low, low bar for such a tiny, tiny man.
It just is humorous to see the people who were against masks turn on a dime to be for them when Trump wears them.
If Trump doesn't continually wear a mask from this point forward they will be back to being against them.
He has destroyed any belief I've ever had in karma. He's tempted fate and endangered his health with little to no consequence. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better”
Apparently Trump’s campaign people think Trump reluctantly putting on a mask months into the pandemic is somehow the knockout punch to Joe Biden’s campaign.
Not only is this obviously ridiculous, but BFD he wore a mask ONCE inside Walter Reed where everyone is REQUIRED to wear a mask. He didn't wear one when he played golf today. And I guarantee he won't be wearing one the next time the press shouts questions at him as he is strolling to the helicopter. Good lord, what a low, low bar for such a tiny, tiny man.
It just is humorous to see the people who were against masks turn on a dime to be for them when Trump wears them.
If Trump doesn't continually wear a mask from this point forward they will be back to being against them.
He has destroyed any belief I've ever had in karma. He's tempted fate and endangered his health with little to no consequence.
The only thing Trump is actually good at is escaping consequences for all of the terrible things he does. So if he got the Covid he'd definitely survive.
Also, I think it's ridiculous that Trump supporters are resorting to the death rate as a defense. 137,000+ Americans have died already. Way more than any other country. AND over 3 million people have tested positive. With unknown long term health effects. It's still a tragedy if someone catches this virus and doesn't die. So many of these cases are preventable with proper leadership and scientifically backed strategies.
Just look at other countries.
If Hillary had been president we would have been past this by now, like the rest of the world, especially where women heads-of-state are in charge. Thanks, Trump voters (and James Comey, and Russia, and Jill Stein voters, and misogynists). You have blood on your hands as surely as Trump does. But keep on not wearing masks and congregating in big crowds.
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:35 am Post subject:
ChefLinda wrote:
Pasted from the Coronavirus thread:
kikanga wrote:
Also, I think it's ridiculous that Trump supporters are resorting to the death rate as a defense. 137,000+ Americans have died already. Way more than any other country. AND over 3 million people have tested positive. With unknown long term health effects. It's still a tragedy if someone catches this virus and doesn't die. So many of these cases are preventable with proper leadership and scientifically backed strategies.
Just look at other countries.
If Hillary had been president we would have been past this by now, like the rest of the world, especially where women heads-of-state are in charge. Thanks, Trump voters (and James Comey, and Russia, and Jill Stein voters, and misogynists). You have blood on your hands as surely as Trump does. But keep on not wearing masks and congregating in big crowds.
If Dudley Do-Right were president we'd be past this by now. We're being punished. We've been had by a shyster. Hopefully we've learned.
Being from the school of a glass half full I believe. THIS TOO WILL PASS. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
Apparently Trump’s campaign people think Trump reluctantly putting on a mask months into the pandemic is somehow the knockout punch to Joe Biden’s campaign.
Not only is this obviously ridiculous, but BFD he wore a mask ONCE inside Walter Reed where everyone is REQUIRED to wear a mask. He didn't wear one when he played golf today. And I guarantee he won't be wearing one the next time the press shouts questions at him as he is strolling to the helicopter. Good lord, what a low, low bar for such a tiny, tiny man.
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:08 am Post subject:
Theseus wrote:
ChefLinda wrote:
trmiv wrote:
Apparently Trump’s campaign people think Trump reluctantly putting on a mask months into the pandemic is somehow the knockout punch to Joe Biden’s campaign.
Not only is this obviously ridiculous, but BFD he wore a mask ONCE inside Walter Reed where everyone is REQUIRED to wear a mask. He didn't wear one when he played golf today. And I guarantee he won't be wearing one the next time the press shouts questions at him as he is strolling to the helicopter. Good lord, what a low, low bar for such a tiny, tiny man.
It just is humorous to see the people who were against masks turn on a dime to be for them when Trump wears them.
If Trump doesn't continually wear a mask from this point forward they will be back to being against them.
As I said in the COVID thread, if Trump from day one had touted the importance of masks and made it a political thing (as he does everything), we would never have had the anti-mask thing to begin with. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Apparently Trump’s campaign people think Trump reluctantly putting on a mask months into the pandemic is somehow the knockout punch to Joe Biden’s campaign.
Not only is this obviously ridiculous, but BFD he wore a mask ONCE inside Walter Reed where everyone is REQUIRED to wear a mask. He didn't wear one when he played golf today. And I guarantee he won't be wearing one the next time the press shouts questions at him as he is strolling to the helicopter. Good lord, what a low, low bar for such a tiny, tiny man.
The Root is a little too jargony for my old behind, but they can be brutal.
Even Texans are talking shut down. 45 is going to have to double up on Depends. _________________ On Lakersground, a concern troll is someone who is a fan of another team, but pretends to be a Lakers fan with "concerns".
The results of the 2016 presidential election in the United States illustrate a broader reality, which is that the gap between the cosmopolitan city and the economic periphery has become the new social class divide across the West. Where people live, as much as how they live, now increasingly determines their beliefs, values, and sense of tribal belonging.
...Changes in the global economy have spatially sorted voters into progressive urbanites with a large stake in a new technological future, globalization, and liberal values, and the left-behind who see their own identity and economic prospects threatened as never before. Rural areas and small towns may have always been more culturally conservative, but this divide, combined with the resentment generated by economic and wealth inequality, has triggered the most prominent recent political explosions across the West....
The Roots of Regional Resentment: Globalization, Crisis, and Austerity
While much attention has focused on differences in values between progressive cosmopolitanism and provincial conservativism, the fact remains that conservative values, at least on matters of lifestyle and religion (if not on matters of national identity), are either stable or in decline. This makes the populist insurgency an anomaly, for a constant cannot explain a change.
What has changed in the last generation, however, is the level of economic and wealth inequality between regions of Western countries. As Joan Rosés and Nikolaus Wolf have shown, regional divergence began in the 1980s with globalization and deindustrialization, and it has deepened in recent years....
Why Now?
Thinking in terms of the new regional class divide also solves one of the perennial mysteries of the populist wave in Europe and the U.S.: Why is the disruption happening now, rather than a decade ago, at the height of the global financial crisis? The answer emerges very quickly when looking at how different regions have recovered—or not recovered—in the decade since.
While the crisis proved only a temporary setback for cosmopolitan cities such as London, Amsterdam, and New York—whose financial sectors were bailed out by government largesse—blighted ex-industrial regions continue to struggle under the burden of austerity. In the decade from 2008 to 2016, while GDP per capita rose over 13 percent for California and New York, it rose on average less than 3 percent across other U.S. states. While GDP per capita rose over 6 percent in Greater London, they rose by only half that in the rest of the U.K., and while per capita GDP recovered in Greater Paris by 3 percent, in the rest of France incomes did not grow at all. It is a pattern found across Europe, from the Netherlands to Sweden to Denmark, Italy, Ireland, and Greece. Wealthy, cosmopolitan cities surge ahead, and the periphery gets left further and further behind.
I realize this runs contrary to the race-narrative divide, which certainly is a factor, the cultural divide in the country and other Western post-industrial nations is largely driven by a growing chasm between in both wealth and hope between the haves and have-nots.
The results of the 2016 presidential election in the United States illustrate a broader reality, which is that the gap between the cosmopolitan city and the economic periphery has become the new social class divide across the West. Where people live, as much as how they live, now increasingly determines their beliefs, values, and sense of tribal belonging.
...Changes in the global economy have spatially sorted voters into progressive urbanites with a large stake in a new technological future, globalization, and liberal values, and the left-behind who see their own identity and economic prospects threatened as never before. Rural areas and small towns may have always been more culturally conservative, but this divide, combined with the resentment generated by economic and wealth inequality, has triggered the most prominent recent political explosions across the West....
The Roots of Regional Resentment: Globalization, Crisis, and Austerity
While much attention has focused on differences in values between progressive cosmopolitanism and provincial conservativism, the fact remains that conservative values, at least on matters of lifestyle and religion (if not on matters of national identity), are either stable or in decline. This makes the populist insurgency an anomaly, for a constant cannot explain a change.
What has changed in the last generation, however, is the level of economic and wealth inequality between regions of Western countries. As Joan Rosés and Nikolaus Wolf have shown, regional divergence began in the 1980s with globalization and deindustrialization, and it has deepened in recent years....
Why Now?
Thinking in terms of the new regional class divide also solves one of the perennial mysteries of the populist wave in Europe and the U.S.: Why is the disruption happening now, rather than a decade ago, at the height of the global financial crisis? The answer emerges very quickly when looking at how different regions have recovered—or not recovered—in the decade since.
While the crisis proved only a temporary setback for cosmopolitan cities such as London, Amsterdam, and New York—whose financial sectors were bailed out by government largesse—blighted ex-industrial regions continue to struggle under the burden of austerity. In the decade from 2008 to 2016, while GDP per capita rose over 13 percent for California and New York, it rose on average less than 3 percent across other U.S. states. While GDP per capita rose over 6 percent in Greater London, they rose by only half that in the rest of the U.K., and while per capita GDP recovered in Greater Paris by 3 percent, in the rest of France incomes did not grow at all. It is a pattern found across Europe, from the Netherlands to Sweden to Denmark, Italy, Ireland, and Greece. Wealthy, cosmopolitan cities surge ahead, and the periphery gets left further and further behind.
I realize this runs contrary to the race-narrative divide, which certainly is a factor, the cultural divide in the country and other Western post-industrial nations is largely driven by a growing chasm between in both wealth and hope between the haves and have-nots.
Yes, real people are upset about real income inequality and job loss. The difference is liberals don't blame it on black people and brown people and the right DOES blame it on black and brown people. If people on the right were really voting based on income inequality they would have wanted to vote for Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren (instead they are labeled scary socialists) or for Democrats with jobs programs (like Clinton and Biden). But. They. Don't. They keep voting for Republicans who promise them nothing except empty rhetoric and more contempt for the same people they hate. And why now? Because the white demographic is shrinking and the the black/brown demographic is growing. This scares them and they blame their very real dilemma on those "other" people. Because it's easier to keep blaming "other" people then educate themselves on the issues and vote for candidates based on issues. And they blame the big city liberals too -- because we educated ourselves and joined in the new economy not based on the old labor model. The resent "our" success. Again, Democrats always place education, jobs and job retraining at the top of their agenda. But who pays attention and then votes based on that?
We'll see if Biden's message gets through. Because he's definitely trying to get the through to the huge middle class and working class. Nancy Pelosi and the Democratic House have passed dozens and dozens of bills that would address many middle class economic concerns, but McConnell hasn't let any of them come up for a vote. Do Republican voters suffering from income inequality and job loss blame McConnell? Hell no. They would rather blame the evil Nancy Pelosi because the right-wing propaganda world tells them she is the boogie man. Their anger and resentment is legitimate, but what they do with it is completely irrational and based not on facts but on fear and loathing.
Effective, shows leadership and care w/o asking for votes which might make it look like he's using people's fear to get votes instead of drawing on their compassion. Uniting message, not dividing, nothing about Trump or the election. Leading Texas horses to the water in the hopes they'll drink, but not using a switch to get them there. Easing them into the notion that he could be their president and/or vote. Maybe that's the approach a Dem needs to take in order to win Texas for the first time in 44 yrs. Also makes it personal with "people are scared for their elderly parents and loved ones". Great way to remind folks that they're scared and DT's not responding to their concerns. _________________ GOAT MAGIC REEL SEDALE TRIBUTE EDDIE DONX!
Effective, shows leadership and care w/o asking for votes which might make it look like he's using people's fear to get votes instead of drawing on their compassion. Uniting message, not dividing, nothing about Trump or the election. Leading Texas horses to the water in the hopes they'll drink, but not using a switch to get them there. Easing them into the notion that he could be their president and/or vote. Maybe that's the approach a Dem needs to take in order to win Texas for the first time in 44 yrs. Also makes it personal with "people are scared for their elderly parents and loved ones". Great way to remind folks that they're scared and DT's not responding to their concerns.
Leadership.
Damn, another great ad. It seems the great ads are coming out almost daily. _________________ "A metronome keeps time by using a Ringo"
Effective, shows leadership and care w/o asking for votes which might make it look like he's using people's fear to get votes instead of drawing on their compassion. Uniting message, not dividing, nothing about Trump or the election. Leading Texas horses to the water in the hopes they'll drink, but not using a switch to get them there. Easing them into the notion that he could be their president and/or vote. Maybe that's the approach a Dem needs to take in order to win Texas for the first time in 44 yrs. Also makes it personal with "people are scared for their elderly parents and loved ones". Great way to remind folks that they're scared and DT's not responding to their concerns.
Leadership.
Damn, another great ad. It seems the great ads are coming out almost daily.
The results of the 2016 presidential election in the United States illustrate a broader reality, which is that the gap between the cosmopolitan city and the economic periphery has become the new social class divide across the West. Where people live, as much as how they live, now increasingly determines their beliefs, values, and sense of tribal belonging.
...Changes in the global economy have spatially sorted voters into progressive urbanites with a large stake in a new technological future, globalization, and liberal values, and the left-behind who see their own identity and economic prospects threatened as never before. Rural areas and small towns may have always been more culturally conservative, but this divide, combined with the resentment generated by economic and wealth inequality, has triggered the most prominent recent political explosions across the West....
The Roots of Regional Resentment: Globalization, Crisis, and Austerity
While much attention has focused on differences in values between progressive cosmopolitanism and provincial conservativism, the fact remains that conservative values, at least on matters of lifestyle and religion (if not on matters of national identity), are either stable or in decline. This makes the populist insurgency an anomaly, for a constant cannot explain a change.
What has changed in the last generation, however, is the level of economic and wealth inequality between regions of Western countries. As Joan Rosés and Nikolaus Wolf have shown, regional divergence began in the 1980s with globalization and deindustrialization, and it has deepened in recent years....
Why Now?
Thinking in terms of the new regional class divide also solves one of the perennial mysteries of the populist wave in Europe and the U.S.: Why is the disruption happening now, rather than a decade ago, at the height of the global financial crisis? The answer emerges very quickly when looking at how different regions have recovered—or not recovered—in the decade since.
While the crisis proved only a temporary setback for cosmopolitan cities such as London, Amsterdam, and New York—whose financial sectors were bailed out by government largesse—blighted ex-industrial regions continue to struggle under the burden of austerity. In the decade from 2008 to 2016, while GDP per capita rose over 13 percent for California and New York, it rose on average less than 3 percent across other U.S. states. While GDP per capita rose over 6 percent in Greater London, they rose by only half that in the rest of the U.K., and while per capita GDP recovered in Greater Paris by 3 percent, in the rest of France incomes did not grow at all. It is a pattern found across Europe, from the Netherlands to Sweden to Denmark, Italy, Ireland, and Greece. Wealthy, cosmopolitan cities surge ahead, and the periphery gets left further and further behind.
I realize this runs contrary to the race-narrative divide, which certainly is a factor, the cultural divide in the country and other Western post-industrial nations is largely driven by a growing chasm between in both wealth and hope between the haves and have-nots.
Yes, real people are upset about real income inequality and job loss. The difference is liberals don't blame it on black people and brown people and the right DOES blame it on black and brown people. If people on the right were really voting based on income inequality they would have wanted to vote for Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren (instead they are labeled scary socialists) or for Democrats with jobs programs (like Clinton and Biden). But. They. Don't. They keep voting for Republicans who promise them nothing except empty rhetoric and more contempt for the same people they hate. And why now? Because the white demographic is shrinking and the the black/brown demographic is growing. This scares them and they blame their very real dilemma on those "other" people. Because it's easier to keep blaming "other" people then educate themselves on the issues and vote for candidates based on issues. And they blame the big city liberals too -- because we educated ourselves and joined in the new economy not based on the old labor model. The resent "our" success. Again, Democrats always place education, jobs and job retraining at the top of their agenda. But who pays attention and then votes based on that?
We'll see if Biden's message gets through. Because he's definitely trying to get the through to the huge middle class and working class. Nancy Pelosi and the Democratic House have passed dozens and dozens of bills that would address many middle class economic concerns, but McConnell hasn't let any of them come up for a vote. Do Republican voters suffering from income inequality and job loss blame McConnell? Hell no. They would rather blame the evil Nancy Pelosi because the right-wing propaganda world tells them she is the boogie man. Their anger and resentment is legitimate, but what they do with it is completely irrational and based not on facts but on fear and loathing.
It seems, and I can only say this based on reading and not direct experience, that Republicans have bamboozled poor whites, especially in the South, into thinking that no matter how bad their lives are, they are still better than people of color. Since liberals and Democrats have stood beside people of color (even though they are not always effective in reaching satisfying solutions), beginning with FDR and then with LBJ fighting hard to get Civil Rights and Voting Rights legislation passed, that even though the policies of Democrats so favor the poor over the rich, too many of the white poor can't get beyond their hatred--even though the message to their children may not reflect the direct racism that they were taught by their parents. _________________ "A metronome keeps time by using a Ringo"
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