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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:59 pm    Post subject:

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Here's a little insight into the "integrity" of Trump's lawyer in the Russia case:

rump Lawyer Marc Kasowitz Threatens Stranger in Emails: ‘Watch Your Back’


Wow, his impulse control is very Trump-like.


Yeah . . . like non-existent.
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The Real Scandal Now Is How Team Trump Helped Putin Conceal His Attack on America --Keeping Russia’s secret. By David Corn, Mother Jones

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A few weeks ago, I wrote a piece noting that whether or not Donald Trump colluded with Vladimir Putin’s covert operation to subvert the 2016 campaign, the public record was already clear that Trump, knowingly or not, had aided and abetted Russia’s war on US democracy. He did so by repeatedly ignoring evidence and denying Moscow’s role in the criminal hacking of Democratic targets and the subsequent release of stolen emails. Those denials muddied the storyline and prevented a vigorous bipartisan response to Putin’s attack.

The disclosure this week of Donald Trump Jr.’s emails revealing that he, Jared Kushner, and Paul Manafort joined what they believed was a secret Russian government project to disseminate dirt on Hillary Clinton shows that the Trump campaign went far beyond creating a political climate favorable to Putin’s clandestine assault. The Trump camp actually protected Russian intelligence while it was waging information warfare against the United States—and Trump’s most intimate advisers knew they were doing so.

The new emails prove that in the first week of June 2016, Trump Jr.; Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law and key adviser; and Manafort, who the previous month had been named Trump’s campaign chairman and chief strategist, all became aware there was a Russian government plot to help Trump become president.


Manafort is the Key man in this plot imho.. He is a Russian Operative from what I've read
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:03 pm    Post subject:

DaMuleRules wrote:
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DaMuleRules wrote:
Here's a little insight into the "integrity" of Trump's lawyer in the Russia case:

rump Lawyer Marc Kasowitz Threatens Stranger in Emails: ‘Watch Your Back’


Wow, his impulse control is very Trump-like.


Yeah . . . like non-existent.


Looks like incredible fear turning to Anger and he feels very threatened..
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And for the people who think none of this will ever get prosecuted...


I think you are confusing some people's message. I don't think anyone is saying it will never get prosecuted, but I can only speak for myself in that regard.

My feeling is that from what we have seen so far, the feasibility of a successful prosecution seems like a stretch, and the probability of a smoking gun at this point appears to be a long shot. To me, all these rumors of all this alleged damning information from European sources is more journalistic posturing than reality. There's just been too much rumor and not much substance. But hopefully I'm wrong.

That's where my "I'm not holding my breath" attitude comes from.

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If you think liberals loathe Trump, what do you think career prosecutors, career FBI and career Intelligence officers think about Trump? He has bashed them, disrespected them and undermined them at every turn. He is an affront to all they believe in and everything they've dedicated their careers to, namely the Rule of Law and defending the principles of the Constitution.


It doesn't matter how much they detest him. In order to actually prosecute Trump - AND MORE IMPORTANTLY do so effectively and successfully - they need to be able to pit together a compelling set of charges and the evidence to back it up. Hating Trump may be a motivation, but such contempt is not a source of evidence. The desire to build a case and the ability to do so are two different issues.

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If there is enough evidence to bring him down, they will. They will turn over every rock, stone and piece of intel gathered for the last 20 years looking to connect the dots.


Here's hoping. But that evidence needs to exist. We can't will it into existence, no matter how much we'd like to.

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These types of cases start at the bottom and work their way up, with a few people flipping along the way.


Here's hoping. I can't help but wonder why if all these people who have all this damning evidence and who are emotionally and morally compelled to share it are holding off. Makes little sense to my mind.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:14 pm    Post subject:

This is the ultimate GOP (bleep) you, we don't give a (bleep) what the public thinks:

Senate Republicans exempt own health coverage from part of latest proposal

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Senate Republicans included a provision that exempts members of Congress and their staff from part of their latest health care plan.

This exemption could have the effect of ensuring that members of Congress have coverage for a wider array of benefits than other Americans who purchase their own coverage.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:16 pm    Post subject:

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/07/russia-trump-ukraine-clinton/533394/

Someone else brought up Ukraine as a whataboutism here. I'm not going to do that, but I'm interested in whether there is merit in discussing it at all. Did the DNC do anything wrong here?

From the article above, I don't see the "Public Criticism" and "The Corruption Investigation" as problematic at all. I'm less sure about the Chalupa involvement. Is there any issue with a DNC consultant (reportedly) asking a foreign government for the type of assistance outlined in the article for the investigation on Manafort?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:55 pm    Post subject:

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And for the people who think none of this will ever get prosecuted...


I think you are confusing some people's message. I don't think anyone is saying it will never get prosecuted, but I can only speak for myself in that regard.

My feeling is that from what we have seen so far, the feasibility of a successful prosecution seems like a stretch, and the probability of a smoking gun at this point appears to be a long shot. To me, all these rumors of all this alleged damning information from European sources is more journalistic posturing than reality. There's just been too much rumor and not much substance. But hopefully I'm wrong.

That's where my "I'm not holding my breath" attitude comes from.

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If you think liberals loathe Trump, what do you think career prosecutors, career FBI and career Intelligence officers think about Trump? He has bashed them, disrespected them and undermined them at every turn. He is an affront to all they believe in and everything they've dedicated their careers to, namely the Rule of Law and defending the principles of the Constitution.


It doesn't matter how much they detest him. In order to actually prosecute Trump - AND MORE IMPORTANTLY do so effectively and successfully - they need to be able to pit together a compelling set of charges and the evidence to back it up. Hating Trump may be a motivation, but such contempt is not a source of evidence. The desire to build a case and the ability to do so are two different issues.

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If there is enough evidence to bring him down, they will. They will turn over every rock, stone and piece of intel gathered for the last 20 years looking to connect the dots.


Here's hoping. But that evidence needs to exist. We can't will it into existence, no matter how much we'd like to.

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These types of cases start at the bottom and work their way up, with a few people flipping along the way.


Here's hoping. I can't help but wonder why if all these people who have all this damning evidence and who are emotionally and morally compelled to share it are holding off. Makes little sense to my mind.


We don't know that people haven't already flipped or already shared damning information. Mueller is holding all the cards and he's not tipping his hand. Is that really so surprising?

And I reserve the right to post a pnp style "I TOLD YOU SO!" if I'm right.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:59 pm    Post subject:

ChefLinda wrote:
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ChefLinda wrote:
And for the people who think none of this will ever get prosecuted...


I think you are confusing some people's message. I don't think anyone is saying it will never get prosecuted, but I can only speak for myself in that regard.

My feeling is that from what we have seen so far, the feasibility of a successful prosecution seems like a stretch, and the probability of a smoking gun at this point appears to be a long shot. To me, all these rumors of all this alleged damning information from European sources is more journalistic posturing than reality. There's just been too much rumor and not much substance. But hopefully I'm wrong.

That's where my "I'm not holding my breath" attitude comes from.

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If you think liberals loathe Trump, what do you think career prosecutors, career FBI and career Intelligence officers think about Trump? He has bashed them, disrespected them and undermined them at every turn. He is an affront to all they believe in and everything they've dedicated their careers to, namely the Rule of Law and defending the principles of the Constitution.


It doesn't matter how much they detest him. In order to actually prosecute Trump - AND MORE IMPORTANTLY do so effectively and successfully - they need to be able to pit together a compelling set of charges and the evidence to back it up. Hating Trump may be a motivation, but such contempt is not a source of evidence. The desire to build a case and the ability to do so are two different issues.

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If there is enough evidence to bring him down, they will. They will turn over every rock, stone and piece of intel gathered for the last 20 years looking to connect the dots.


Here's hoping. But that evidence needs to exist. We can't will it into existence, no matter how much we'd like to.

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These types of cases start at the bottom and work their way up, with a few people flipping along the way.


Here's hoping. I can't help but wonder why if all these people who have all this damning evidence and who are emotionally and morally compelled to share it are holding off. Makes little sense to my mind.


We don't know that people haven't already flipped or already shared damning information. Mueller is holding all the cards and he's not tipping his hand. Is that really so surprising?

And I reserve the right to post a pnp style "I TOLD YOU SO!" if I'm right.


I'm looking forward to that.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:06 pm    Post subject:

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My feeling is that from what we have seen so far, the feasibility of a successful prosecution seems like a stretch, and the probability of a smoking gun at this point appears to be a long shot. To me, all these rumors of all this alleged damning information from European sources is more journalistic posturing than reality. There's just been too much rumor and not much substance. But hopefully I'm wrong.

That's where my "I'm not holding my breath" attitude comes from.


Assuming you're right. Why the hell is Mueller building the best Justice League to ever walk the Earth?
When he brings in legal specialists in different areas as the investigation progresses. Makes me think he is getting somewhere.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:16 pm    Post subject:

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DaMuleRules wrote:

My feeling is that from what we have seen so far, the feasibility of a successful prosecution seems like a stretch, and the probability of a smoking gun at this point appears to be a long shot. To me, all these rumors of all this alleged damning information from European sources is more journalistic posturing than reality. There's just been too much rumor and not much substance. But hopefully I'm wrong.

That's where my "I'm not holding my breath" attitude comes from.


Assuming you're right. Why the hell is Mueller building the best Justice League to ever walk the Earth?
When he brings in legal specialists in different areas as the investigation progresses. Makes me think he is getting somewhere.


I sincerely hope so. He could also just be doing due diligence, which is what we should all expect regardless. I never expressed doubt that he was trying. I'm sure he's turning over any rock he can find. It's what's under them that we aren't sure about.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:24 pm    Post subject:

There's a reason Trump never released his tax returns. Because I bet if you follow the money, you start getting close to the kind of evidence that could take him down. You know who can subpoena all his tax returns and financial records? Special Prosecutor Mueller. And all those attorneys he hired? They are experts at going through financial records looking for money laundering, illegal business dealings, connections to foreign entities, etc.
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DaMuleRules wrote:
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DaMuleRules wrote:

My feeling is that from what we have seen so far, the feasibility of a successful prosecution seems like a stretch, and the probability of a smoking gun at this point appears to be a long shot. To me, all these rumors of all this alleged damning information from European sources is more journalistic posturing than reality. There's just been too much rumor and not much substance. But hopefully I'm wrong.

That's where my "I'm not holding my breath" attitude comes from.


Assuming you're right. Why the hell is Mueller building the best Justice League to ever walk the Earth?
When he brings in legal specialists in different areas as the investigation progresses. Makes me think he is getting somewhere.


I sincerely hope so. He could also just be doing due diligence, which is what we should all expect regardless. I never expressed doubt that he was trying. I'm sure he's turning over any rock he can find. It's what's under them that we aren't sure about.


Yep.. due diligence for sure.. I know my comparison was off but I feel this is really DEEP.. not just votes etc... this is a president that will sell out his country for the dollar and now he is in serious hot water.. what has he given away for future protection already?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:52 pm    Post subject:

DaMuleRules wrote:
kikanga wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:

My feeling is that from what we have seen so far, the feasibility of a successful prosecution seems like a stretch, and the probability of a smoking gun at this point appears to be a long shot. To me, all these rumors of all this alleged damning information from European sources is more journalistic posturing than reality. There's just been too much rumor and not much substance. But hopefully I'm wrong.

That's where my "I'm not holding my breath" attitude comes from.


Assuming you're right. Why the hell is Mueller building the best Justice League to ever walk the Earth?
When he brings in legal specialists in different areas as the investigation progresses. Makes me think he is getting somewhere.


I sincerely hope so. He could also just be doing due diligence, which is what we should all expect regardless. I never expressed doubt that he was trying. I'm sure he's turning over any rock he can find. It's what's under them that we aren't sure about.


I think I get what you are saying, and I agree.

The seriousness of the potential crimes (conspiring with a hostile nation to swing a presidential election, obstruction of justice in firing the FBI director, etc.) means Muller HAS to explore every possible angle. For the national psyche, to maintain any confidence in our elections and government, everyone needs to believe it was a legit and thorough investigation.

And as much as I want Trump and all his unholy spawn to be tossed into jail, as horrified as I am by all their behavior, it IS possible Muller may not be able to make a case that rises to the level of impeachment/prosecution. Sometimes the good guys can't make the case even on a guilty person.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:55 pm    Post subject:

Mueller also hounded an innocent man for years and ruined is life while building a case that didn't exist, costing the government millions to settle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Hatfill

Lets not pretend he's never wrong, either. Hope he gets it right this time.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:57 pm    Post subject:

I know.. not comparing here.. but I remember after 9/11 our Intel going to video game programmers to get ideas they might think up next

We are truthfully living a reality show presidency and it has taken our national psyche hostage..

All we do is talk about all the shady things our pres is involved in and

You know they say while they have you focused on one thing they are pulling sneakier (bleep) behind that..

email chain released diversion for? just pondering
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:49 pm    Post subject:

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Mueller also hounded an innocent man for years and ruined is life while building a case that didn't exist, costing the government millions to settle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Hatfill

Lets not pretend he's never wrong, either. Hope he gets it right this time.


I guess this kind of taps into my position on this whole thing.

I want to see Trump go down, and very hard, along with any relative or associate who is also involved in any wrong doing.

But I want it to happen in a thorough and appropriate way that doesn't mirror or play into the same kind of behavior that those of us the Left call the Right out on. We need to pursue truth and justice on their merits and avoid appearances of partisan persecution. Doing otherwise just plays into Trump's hands.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:57 pm    Post subject:

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Mueller also hounded an innocent man for years and ruined is life while building a case that didn't exist, costing the government millions to settle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Hatfill

Lets not pretend he's never wrong, either. Hope he gets it right this time.


Reading through that quickly, it looks like John Ashcroft was the one who initially named him as person of interest. And eventually Mueller was the one that switched the FBI investigation team that subsequently shifted focus away from Hatfill. So it's not clear to me that Mueller is primarily responsible for this unfortunate incident. He was the head of the FBI, but he was not personally leading the investigation.

However, I'm pretty sure you could pick out any attorney/prosecutor/investigator with a long career and cherry pick one case that makes them look bad. It doesn't invalidate the rest of their career or any current case.

It's terrible for Mr. Hatfill but this is a completely different team of investigators under completely different circumstances, so I don't think this particular criticism has much baring at all on current events.
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Mueller also hounded an innocent man for years and ruined is life while building a case that didn't exist, costing the government millions to settle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Hatfill

Lets not pretend he's never wrong, either. Hope he gets it right this time.


I guess this kind of taps into my position on this whole thing.

I want to see Trump go down, and very hard, along with any relative or associate who is also involved in any wrong doing.

But I want it to happen in a thorough and appropriate way that doesn't mirror or play into the same kind of behavior that those of us the Left call the Right out on. We need to pursue truth and justice on their merits and avoid appearances of partisan persecution. Doing otherwise just plays into Trump's hands.


Yes, which is precisely why Mueller has hired a large team of heavily experienced attorneys who are taking their time and being thorough despite the calls for them to hurry up because people are getting discouraged.
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Mueller also hounded an innocent man for years and ruined is life while building a case that didn't exist, costing the government millions to settle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Hatfill

Lets not pretend he's never wrong, either. Hope he gets it right this time.


Reading through that quickly, it looks like John Ashcroft was the one who initially named him as person of interest. And eventually Mueller was the one that switched the FBI investigation team that subsequently shifted focus away from Hatfill. So it's not clear to me that Mueller is primarily responsible for this unfortunate incident. He was the head of the FBI, but he was not personally leading the investigation.

However, I'm pretty sure you could pick out any attorney/prosecutor/investigator with a long career and cherry pick one case that makes them look bad. It doesn't invalidate the rest of their career or any current case.

It's terrible for Mr. Hatfill but this is a completely different team of investigators under completely different circumstances, so I don't think this particular criticism has much baring at all on current events.


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This, too, was an enormously complex case. But here are some facts: Despite the jihadist slogans accompanying the mailed anthrax, it had nothing to do with Saddam Hussein or any foreign element; the FBI ignored a 2002 tip from a scientific colleague of the actual anthrax killer, who turned out to be a Fort Detrick scientist named Bruce Edwards Ivins; the reason is that they had quickly obsessed on an innocent man named Steven Hatfill; the bureau was bullied into focusing on the government scientist by Democratic Sen. Patrick Leahy (whose office, along with that of Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, was targeted by an anthrax-laced letter) and was duped into focusing on Hatfill by two sources — a conspiracy-minded college professor with a political agenda who’d never met Hatfill and by Nicholas Kristof, who put her conspiracy theories in the paper while mocking the FBI for not arresting Hatfill.

In truth, Hatfill was an implausible suspect from the outset. He was a virologist who never handled anthrax, which is a bacterium. (Ivins, by contrast, shared ownership of anthrax patents, was diagnosed as having paranoid personality disorder, and had a habit of stalking and threatening people with anonymous letters — including the woman who provided the long-ignored tip to the FBI).

So what evidence did the FBI have against Hatfill? There was none, so the agency did a Hail Mary, importing two bloodhounds from California whose handlers claimed could sniff the scent of the killer on the anthrax-tainted letters. These dogs were shown to Hatfill, who promptly petted them. When the dogs responded favorably, their handlers told the FBI that they’d “alerted” on Hatfill and that he must be the killer.

You’d think that any good FBI agent would have kicked these quacks in the fanny and found their dogs a good home. Or at least checked news accounts of criminal cases in California where these same dogs had been used against defendants who’d been convicted — and later exonerated. As Pulitzer Prize-winning Los Angeles Times investigative reporter David Willman detailed in his authoritative book on the case, a California judge who’d tossed out a murder conviction based on these sketchy canines called the prosecution’s dog handler “as biased as any witness that this court has ever seen.”

Instead, Mueller, who micromanaged the anthrax case and fell in love with the dubious dog evidence, personally assured Ashcroft and presumably George W. Bush that in Steven Hatfill the bureau had its man. Comey, in turn, was asked by a skeptical Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz if Hatfill was another Richard Jewell — the security guard wrongly accused of the Atlanta Olympics bombing. Comey replied that he was “absolutely certain” they weren’t making a mistake.

Such certitude seems to be Comey’s default position in his professional life. Mueller didn’t exactly distinguish himself with contrition, either. In 2008, after Ivins committed suicide as he was about to be apprehended for his crimes, and the Justice Department had formally exonerated Hatfill — and paid him $5.82 million in a legal settlement — Mueller could not be bothered to walk across the street to attend the press conference announcing the case’s resolution. When reporters did ask him about it, Mueller was graceless. “I do not apologize for any aspect of the investigation,” he said, adding that it would be erroneous “to say there were mistakes.”

Does this mean Comey and Mueller are bad guys? I’m not saying that. Mueller, for one, answered his country’s call and enlisted in the U.S. Marine Corps when many others of his generation were avoiding combat service in Vietnam. Both men have forsaken millions of dollars in salary at private law firms for public service. Neither has ever had a hint of personal scandal.

I know Steven Hatfill’s attorney, Thomas Connolly, well, and David Willman, a former newsroom colleague, even better — and I spoke to them last week about these events. Connolly said he thought Comey was a “decent guy” who was legitimately fooled by that business with the dogs. And while Willman and I were discussing whether Mueller’s reputation for competence was deserved, the reporter volunteered that he did not question the man’s integrity.

http://www.ocregister.com/2017/05/21/comey-mueller-bungled-big-anthrax-case-together/


Any author bias aside, the dog evidence, etc. can be verified elsewhere.

I don't think anyone doubts Mueller's integrity (I think he's the right man for this job), just that we hope that the evidence is thorough and enough to convict. If it's not, and he goes on a witch hunt where something isn't there, it could create a backlash that goes very badly.
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ChefLinda wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
DuncanIdaho wrote:
Mueller also hounded an innocent man for years and ruined is life while building a case that didn't exist, costing the government millions to settle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Hatfill

Lets not pretend he's never wrong, either. Hope he gets it right this time.


I guess this kind of taps into my position on this whole thing.

I want to see Trump go down, and very hard, along with any relative or associate who is also involved in any wrong doing.

But I want it to happen in a thorough and appropriate way that doesn't mirror or play into the same kind of behavior that those of us the Left call the Right out on. We need to pursue truth and justice on their merits and avoid appearances of partisan persecution. Doing otherwise just plays into Trump's hands.


Yes, which is precisely why Mueller has hired a large team of heavily experienced attorneys who are taking their time and being thorough despite the calls for them to hurry up because people are getting discouraged.


Your mileage may vary, but from my experience there is less "discouragement"
than there is a conviction that is leading to impatience.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 6:50 pm    Post subject:

DaMuleRules wrote:
SweetP wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
Here's a little insight into the "integrity" of Trump's lawyer in the Russia case:

rump Lawyer Marc Kasowitz Threatens Stranger in Emails: ‘Watch Your Back’


Wow, his impulse control is very Trump-like.


Yeah . . . like non-existent.


Rachel Maddow just did a segment on two other Trump lawyers, Michael Cohen and Dowd (?).

Same behavior.

Dowd flipped the bird at a reporter and told him to f off (on camera) when asked about a client that had just lost a big case. Cohen sent a very vulgar and threatening email to a reporter that had asked about the charge Ivana Trump supposedly made during the divorce proceedings (that Trump sexually assaulted her).

Donnie sure knows how to pick them. Like a (mobster) boss.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:07 pm    Post subject:

I love this administration. Trump tells the press he knew about the meeting.

There's a reason the writers for veep and house of cards are so frustrated. They can't make this (bleep) up.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:11 pm    Post subject:

Hector the Pup wrote:
I love this administration. Trump tells the press he knew about the meeting.

There's a reason the writers for veep and house of cards are so frustrated. They can't make this (bleep) up.


It's starting to feel like the Trump strategy is to overwhelm the FBI with evidence and continue to commit crimes in the hopes that they won't have the bandwidth to bring him up on charges.

Can't get arrested if the investigation never ends.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:02 am    Post subject:

Monday: Washington Post reports - Donald Trump (bleep) pants
Tuesday: White House says - Crapping pants story is false attack by liberal media
Wednesday: Donald Trump - "Yes I (bleep) my pants. And it was the most glorious crap ever!
Thursday: Conservative Pundits - Bowel control isn't a prerequisite for presidential fitness
Friday: Support amoung GOP base increases following bowel movement scandal
Sat-Sun: Kikanga extra complains about Trump presidency.
Monday: Repeat cycle

This is my interpretation of the Trump presidency.
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