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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:23 am Post subject: |
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Buck32 wrote: | governator wrote: | Hector the Pup wrote: | kikanga wrote: | Looking at the election results from this week. Minority turnout has key. Need to keep voter enthusiasm high for 2018.
Its on people of color to make their voice heard. Or else the GOP will maintain dominance. |
Moore went from a 10 point lead to a dead heat. I guess some folks actually do frown upon pedos even if they're Republican pedos. |
10 points, deadheat? we talking pedophile... I was expecting a landslide against Moore |
It's in the south, and that's what christians do. It's not unusual for them what Moore did. O course they won't accept it in public, and they will say the right thing in the presence of outsiders. But deep down it is as normal for them as milk and cookies.
Like Bill Maher said, liberals arrest the despise pedos among them, conservatives elect them.
I still expect him to win. |
Yes, liberal Hollywood certainly took care of business _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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lakersken80 Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:54 am Post subject: |
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LarryCoon wrote: |
This is why democracy is doomed -- it can't overcome tribalism. Had it been a democrat accused of sexual assault on a minor in Alabama, the accused would be an instant pariah.
And I'll see their "he's only been accused, it hasn't been proven" and raise with "crooked Hillary" and "emails." |
Funny, this guy got re-elected...
Quote: | Bocanegra was disciplined, but the matter was brushed under the rug. Per the TV station, Bocanegra ran for his seat with the backing of the Democratic Party. He recently apologized but remains the powerful majority whip. KPIX obtained a copy of a letter 11 women sent to the rules committee seeking the file on the sexual-harassment complaint. Skinner was the chairwoman of the committee, and the TV station interviewed one of the letter’s signers “who confirmed, Nancy Skinner never responded to their request.” |
http://www.ocregister.com/2017/11/11/unfolding-sex-scandal-offers-lessons-about-californias-political-hypocrisy/
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-raul-bocanegra-harassment-20171027-htmlstory.html |
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LarryCoon Site Staff
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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lakersken80 wrote: | Funny, this guy got re-elected... |
Funny as in ironic? It's completely consistent with my point. |
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splashmtn Star Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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kikanga wrote: | Looking at the election results from this week. Minority turnout was key. Need to keep voter enthusiasm high for 2018.
Its on people of color to make their voice heard. Or else the GOP will maintain dominance in the House. |
so are you saying we can't depend on white men, and white women?
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/09/behind-trumps-victory-divisions-by-race-gender-education/ |
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Wilt LG Contributor
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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The Atlantic: Trump Jr had conversations with Wikileaks through Twitter direct messages.
Let me guess:
"Don Jr. is the least important of his sons."
"He ranks even bellow Tiffany."
"He doesn't remember having a son named Donald." _________________ ¡Hala Madrid! |
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SweetP Star Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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Wilt wrote: | The Atlantic: Trump Jr had conversations with Wikileaks through Twitter direct messages.
Let me guess:
"Don Jr. is the least important of his sons."
"He ranks even bellow Tiffany."
"He doesn't remember having a son named Donald." |
We've now updated the story with @ByronTau's great catch: @realDonaldTrump tweeted about the release of Podesta's emails *15 minutes* after @Wikileaks wrote to @DonaldJTrumpJr about it. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/11/the-secret-correspondence-between-donald-trump-jr-and-wikileaks/545738/ …
Anyone else smell smoke? _________________ “There is always light if only we're brave enough to see it, if only we're brave enough to be it.” --Amanda Gorman |
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SweetP Star Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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From the same Atlantic article:
Quote: | According to a source familiar with the congressional investigations into Russian interference with the 2016 campaign, who requested anonymity because the investigation is ongoing, on the same day that Trump Jr. received the first message from WikiLeaks, he emailed other senior officials with the Trump campaign, including Steve Bannon, Kellyanne Conway, Brad Parscale, and Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner, telling them WikiLeaks had made contact. Kushner then forwarded the email to campaign communications staffer Hope Hicks. At no point during the 10-month correspondence does Trump Jr. rebuff WikiLeaks, which had published stolen documents and was already observed to be releasing information that benefited Russian interests. |
_________________ “There is always light if only we're brave enough to see it, if only we're brave enough to be it.” --Amanda Gorman |
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Wilt LG Contributor
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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My favorite from twitter:
"I’m sure Don Jr was just trying to help American couples hoping to adopt a child from Wikileaks." _________________ ¡Hala Madrid! |
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ContagiousInspiration Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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Saw where Moore said he was going to sue the Washington Post.. lol.. bring it
Sue James Comey too for election interference |
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Omar Little Moderator
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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LarryCoon wrote: | lakersken80 wrote: | Funny, this guy got re-elected... |
Funny as in ironic? It's completely consistent with my point. |
Yes, but whataboutism _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel |
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DaMuleRules Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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Omar Little wrote: | LarryCoon wrote: | lakersken80 wrote: | Funny, this guy got re-elected... |
Funny as in ironic? It's completely consistent with my point. |
Yes, but whataboutism |
Exactly. Getting bogged down in going back and forth about who did what wrong and when they did it is an approach that is guaranteed to perpetuate the problem.
The only reasonable approach to an inappropriate response to an egregious act is to address that instance, not use previous errors as a justification to handle the current one poorly and incorrectly yet again. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Jason Isbell
Man, do those lyrics resonate right now |
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Omar Little Moderator
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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DaMuleRules wrote: | Omar Little wrote: | LarryCoon wrote: | lakersken80 wrote: | Funny, this guy got re-elected... |
Funny as in ironic? It's completely consistent with my point. |
Yes, but whataboutism |
Exactly. Getting bogged down in going back and forth about who did what wrong and when they did it is an approach that is guaranteed to perpetuate the problem.
The only reasonable approach to an inappropriate response to an egregious act is to address that instance, not use previous errors as a justification to handle the current one poorly and incorrectly yet again. |
John Oliver had a great point on this, that you shouldn't use inconsistent application of standards as a pretense to remove all standards. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel |
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DaMuleRules Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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Omar Little wrote: | DaMuleRules wrote: | Omar Little wrote: | LarryCoon wrote: | lakersken80 wrote: | Funny, this guy got re-elected... |
Funny as in ironic? It's completely consistent with my point. |
Yes, but whataboutism |
Exactly. Getting bogged down in going back and forth about who did what wrong and when they did it is an approach that is guaranteed to perpetuate the problem.
The only reasonable approach to an inappropriate response to an egregious act is to address that instance, not use previous errors as a justification to handle the current one poorly and incorrectly yet again. |
John Oliver had a great point on this, that you shouldn't use inconsistent application of standards as a pretense to remove all standards. |
Sums it up perfectly. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Jason Isbell
Man, do those lyrics resonate right now |
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The Lebrons Star Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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Wilt wrote: | The Atlantic: Trump Jr had conversations with Wikileaks through Twitter direct messages.
Let me guess:
"Don Jr. is the least important of his sons."
"He ranks even bellow Tiffany."
"He doesn't remember having a son named Donald." |
Just another day. Sessions has DOJ investigating Trump's BS deflections. Nothing matters. |
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Omar Little Moderator
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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The Lebrons wrote: | Wilt wrote: | The Atlantic: Trump Jr had conversations with Wikileaks through Twitter direct messages.
Let me guess:
"Don Jr. is the least important of his sons."
"He ranks even bellow Tiffany."
"He doesn't remember having a son named Donald." |
Just another day. Sessions has DOJ investigating Trump's BS deflections. Nothing matters. |
Once you realize that the facts don't matter, you quit pulling out your hair. It is pure tribalism. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel |
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LakerSanity Moderator
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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Omar Little wrote: | DaMuleRules wrote: | Omar Little wrote: | LarryCoon wrote: | lakersken80 wrote: | Funny, this guy got re-elected... |
Funny as in ironic? It's completely consistent with my point. |
Yes, but whataboutism |
Exactly. Getting bogged down in going back and forth about who did what wrong and when they did it is an approach that is guaranteed to perpetuate the problem.
The only reasonable approach to an inappropriate response to an egregious act is to address that instance, not use previous errors as a justification to handle the current one poorly and incorrectly yet again. |
John Oliver had a great point on this, that you shouldn't use inconsistent application of standards as a pretense to remove all standards. |
In other words, two wrongs don't make a right? _________________ LakersGround's Terms of Service
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Omar Little Moderator
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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LakerSanity wrote: | Omar Little wrote: | DaMuleRules wrote: | Omar Little wrote: | LarryCoon wrote: | lakersken80 wrote: | Funny, this guy got re-elected... |
Funny as in ironic? It's completely consistent with my point. |
Yes, but whataboutism |
Exactly. Getting bogged down in going back and forth about who did what wrong and when they did it is an approach that is guaranteed to perpetuate the problem.
The only reasonable approach to an inappropriate response to an egregious act is to address that instance, not use previous errors as a justification to handle the current one poorly and incorrectly yet again. |
John Oliver had a great point on this, that you shouldn't use inconsistent application of standards as a pretense to remove all standards. |
In other words, two wrongs don't make a right? |
That's part of it, but there's also the tribal hypocrisy angle. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel |
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Omar Little Moderator
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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I go back to Eric Holder stating that he and Obama don't want to defeat the GOP gerrymandering in order to let the democrats do the same thing in the opposite direction. They are opposed to unfair and disenfranchising tactics regardless of who gains. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel |
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DaMuleRules Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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LakerSanity wrote: | Omar Little wrote: | DaMuleRules wrote: | Omar Little wrote: | LarryCoon wrote: | lakersken80 wrote: | Funny, this guy got re-elected... |
Funny as in ironic? It's completely consistent with my point. |
Yes, but whataboutism |
Exactly. Getting bogged down in going back and forth about who did what wrong and when they did it is an approach that is guaranteed to perpetuate the problem.
The only reasonable approach to an inappropriate response to an egregious act is to address that instance, not use previous errors as a justification to handle the current one poorly and incorrectly yet again. |
John Oliver had a great point on this, that you shouldn't use inconsistent application of standards as a pretense to remove all standards. |
In other words, two wrongs don't make a right? |
"Two wrongs don't make a right" is a little too (bleep) for tat to apply here, though it's not off base. The difference is that the follow up to the saying is, "but now we are even".
The current situation runs deeper than that. It's not about getting even. It's about perpetuating the wrongs while exploiting the wrongs of others as an excuse to do so.
There's no attempt to do the right thing, even in the self-serving sense. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Jason Isbell
Man, do those lyrics resonate right now |
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:06 am Post subject: |
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Omar Little wrote: | DaMuleRules wrote: | Omar Little wrote: | LarryCoon wrote: | lakersken80 wrote: | Funny, this guy got re-elected... |
Funny as in ironic? It's completely consistent with my point. |
Yes, but whataboutism |
Exactly. Getting bogged down in going back and forth about who did what wrong and when they did it is an approach that is guaranteed to perpetuate the problem.
The only reasonable approach to an inappropriate response to an egregious act is to address that instance, not use previous errors as a justification to handle the current one poorly and incorrectly yet again. |
John Oliver had a great point on this, that you shouldn't use inconsistent application of standards as a pretense to remove all standards. |
The tiger hoops mascot also smashed his We Got Him! button. _________________ GOAT MAGIC REEL
SEDALE TRIBUTE
EDDIE DONX! |
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paymonM Star Player
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Moore was once banned from a mall for bothering teenage girls.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/locals-were-troubled-by-roy-moores-interactions-with-teen-girls-at-the-gadsden-mall?mbid=social_twitter
Locals Were Troubled by Roy Moore’s Interactions with Teen Girls at the Gadsden Mall
"This past weekend, I spoke or messaged with more than a dozen people—including a major political figure in the state—who told me that they had heard, over the years, that Moore had been banned from the mall because he repeatedly badgered teen-age girls. Some say that they heard this at the time, others in the years since. These people include five members of the local legal community, two cops who worked in the town, several people who hung out at the mall in the early eighties, and a number of former mall employees. (A request for comment from the Moore campaign was not answered.) Several of them asked that I leave their names out of this piece. The stories that they say they’ve heard for years have been swirling online in the days since the Post published its report. “Sources tell me Moore was actually banned from the Gadsden Mall and the YMCA for his inappropriate behavior of soliciting sex from young girls,” the independent Alabama journalist Glynn Wilson wrote on his Web site on Sunday. (Wilson declined to divulge his sources.) Teresa Jones, a deputy district attorney for Etowah County in the early eighties, told CNN last week that “it was common knowledge that Roy dated high-school girls. |
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paymonM wrote: | Moore was once banned from a mall for bothering teenage girls.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/locals-were-troubled-by-roy-moores-interactions-with-teen-girls-at-the-gadsden-mall?mbid=social_twitter
Locals Were Troubled by Roy Moore’s Interactions with Teen Girls at the Gadsden Mall
"This past weekend, I spoke or messaged with more than a dozen people—including a major political figure in the state—who told me that they had heard, over the years, that Moore had been banned from the mall because he repeatedly badgered teen-age girls. Some say that they heard this at the time, others in the years since. These people include five members of the local legal community, two cops who worked in the town, several people who hung out at the mall in the early eighties, and a number of former mall employees. (A request for comment from the Moore campaign was not answered.) Several of them asked that I leave their names out of this piece. The stories that they say they’ve heard for years have been swirling online in the days since the Post published its report. “Sources tell me Moore was actually banned from the Gadsden Mall and the YMCA for his inappropriate behavior of soliciting sex from young girls,” the independent Alabama journalist Glynn Wilson wrote on his Web site on Sunday. (Wilson declined to divulge his sources.) Teresa Jones, a deputy district attorney for Etowah County in the early eighties, told CNN last week that “it was common knowledge that Roy dated high-school girls. |
Republican see your story, saw Hannity defending Moore and raise the ante to...
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/13/sean-hannity-keurig-roy-moore-244836 |
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:08 am Post subject: |
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Circumstantial evidence of collusion by Trump & Trump Jr:
Quote: | The HillVerified account @thehill
Trump tweeted about hacked Podesta emails 15 minutes after WikiLeaks asked Trump Jr. to ask him to: report http://hill.cm/se5dQL6 |
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governator wrote: | paymonM wrote: | Moore was once banned from a mall for bothering teenage girls.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/locals-were-troubled-by-roy-moores-interactions-with-teen-girls-at-the-gadsden-mall?mbid=social_twitter
Locals Were Troubled by Roy Moore’s Interactions with Teen Girls at the Gadsden Mall
"This past weekend, I spoke or messaged with more than a dozen people—including a major political figure in the state—who told me that they had heard, over the years, that Moore had been banned from the mall because he repeatedly badgered teen-age girls. Some say that they heard this at the time, others in the years since. These people include five members of the local legal community, two cops who worked in the town, several people who hung out at the mall in the early eighties, and a number of former mall employees. (A request for comment from the Moore campaign was not answered.) Several of them asked that I leave their names out of this piece. The stories that they say they’ve heard for years have been swirling online in the days since the Post published its report. “Sources tell me Moore was actually banned from the Gadsden Mall and the YMCA for his inappropriate behavior of soliciting sex from young girls,” the independent Alabama journalist Glynn Wilson wrote on his Web site on Sunday. (Wilson declined to divulge his sources.) Teresa Jones, a deputy district attorney for Etowah County in the early eighties, told CNN last week that “it was common knowledge that Roy dated high-school girls. |
Republican see your story, saw Hannity defending Moore and raise the ante to...
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/13/sean-hannity-keurig-roy-moore-244836 |
Best line I saw: Republicans destroy their coffee makers in support of pedophilia. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Jason Isbell
Man, do those lyrics resonate right now |
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