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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:54 pm    Post subject:

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You comment is misleading. It is the dark forces that are behind he New World Order, it is they that have Luciferian ties while Trump ties are to the God of the Bible. Trump is on the side of the Light, pro life, pro Christian, pro Israel. Yes he is flawed but he is God's chosen proving God can use anyone. Many compare him to Cyrus who saved Israel but was not a preacher or prophet.


The scariest thing about this post is that the person that wrote it can vote.

lol
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:18 pm    Post subject:

tox wrote:
Dominator wrote:
oldlakerfan wrote:

You comment is misleading. It is the dark forces that are behind he New World Order, it is they that have Luciferian ties while Trump ties are to the God of the Bible. Trump is on the side of the Light, pro life, pro Christian, pro Israel. Yes he is flawed but he is God's chosen proving God can use anyone. Many compare him to Cyrus who saved Israel but was not a preacher or prophet.


The scariest thing about this post is that the person that wrote it can vote.

lol


It's legit.

I'm male and nearly cried when id imagine children at home with their Trumpeter Fire families watching episodes of grab them by the (bleep) and war heroes that aren't captured
And then stories of Raping his first wife
And stories of bankrupting everyone
He brings Bill Clinton's accusers to a debate when he himself has even more
Central Park 5.. still guilty
Makes jokes about a female reporter being on her period
Talks about murdering anyone and the (bleep) pieces of trash still voted for him. <<<see .
Obama. Not even an American. Birtherism
Had a for profit university that the government forced shutdown and his students sued him for SCAMMING them...

And the parents look at their children and tell them they love them and want them to grow up just like Trump. He's so great they voted to give him control of the country because they are too (bleep) dumb to know a sleazeball charlatan liar when they see one.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:38 pm    Post subject:

Dominator wrote:
oldlakerfan wrote:

You comment is misleading. It is the dark forces that are behind he New World Order, it is they that have Luciferian ties while Trump ties are to the God of the Bible. Trump is on the side of the Light, pro life, pro Christian, pro Israel. Yes he is flawed but he is God's chosen proving God can use anyone. Many compare him to Cyrus who saved Israel but was not a preacher or prophet.


The scariest thing about this post is that the person that wrote it can vote.


And the important thing about that post is that despite the complete disagreement with what is said, we support olf’s right to vote.

Meanwhile the people he chooses to support and align himself with do just the opposite.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:56 pm    Post subject:

At the risk of being sited, I'm starting to think OLF is trolling. I fell into the trap.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:22 pm    Post subject:

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If Jesus was alive now. Trump would call him a socialist hippie.


Alway thought Jesus was a progressive liberal ...compassion and caring for the masses but now I know he would be one of those middle aged white men in a red hat carrying a sign saying Lock Her Up/Build the Wall/it's Merry not Happy Xmas

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:23 pm    Post subject:

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At the risk of being sited, I'm starting to think OLF is trolling. I fell into the trap.


We hope he's trolling for sure
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:43 pm    Post subject:

It's about f'in time that Democrats start talking and acting tough!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/eric-holders-rallying-cry-democrats-go-low-kick-em-192841062.html

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A growing number of Democratic politicians have decided that Michelle Obama’s rallying cry, “When they go low, we go high,” won’t cut it in the age of Donald Trump.

Campaigning for Democrats in Georgia over the weekend, former Attorney General Eric Holder took issue with the former first lady’s ethical entreaty.

“Michelle says, ‘When they go low, we go high.’ No, no. When they go low, we kick ’em,” Holder told his audience to applause. “That’s what this new Democratic Party is about. We’re proud as hell to be Democrats. We’re willing to fight for the ideals of the Democratic Party. We’re proud of our history. We’re proud of our present, and we’re proud of the future that we can create for this country. And we’re not in this just to make a statement — we’re in this to win.”


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Holder’s comments came one day after Hillary Clinton made headlines by dismissing calls for political civility with the Republican party.

“You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about,” Clinton told CNN’s Christiane Amanpour on Tuesday. “That’s why I believe if we are fortunate enough to win back the House and/or the Senate, that’s when civility can start again.”


As a liberal Democrat, this encourages me a little. Ever since we got our butts kicked two years ago, I realized that the Dems need to stop being so damn nice and start playing hard and hitting first.

Kinda like how the Lakers beat the Celtics in 1985. Play physical, but not dirty.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:28 am    Post subject:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/michael-avenatti-offers-fight-donald-125002890.html

Michael Avenatti offers to fight Donald Trump Jr for charity



Michael Avenatti has offered to fight Donald Trump Jr for charity in the latest barbed exchange between the attorney and America's first family.

Mr Avenatti, who is representing adult actress Stormy Daniels in her lawsuit against president Donald Trump, revealed his plans to organise the bout during a meeting with a reporter.

The lawyer offered Mr Trump Jr the opportunity to take part in a three-round mixed martial arts (MMA) fight, the proceeds of which would be donated to charity.


“This would be for two great causes. I’m in,” Mr Avenatti said on Twitter, adding he was waiting for Mr Trump Jr to confirm the event.

He said his proceeds would be split between hurricane-hit Puerto Rico, where the president claimed the official death toll was being exaggerated by Democrats to make him “look bad”, and the Rape, Abuse and Incest National Network (RAINN).

The attorney’s proposal came following an earlier clash with Mr Trump Jr, a figure Mr Avenatti has often argued with on social media.

The president’s son had tweeted news of disgraced Democratic congressman Anthony Weiner’s potential release from prison, where he is serving a 21-month sentence for sending obscene texts to a minor.

“Who else is excited about Avanetti [sic]/Weiner 2020?!?” Mr Trump Jr wrote, indicating he could imagine the two Democrats running against each other for their party's nomination for the 2020 US presidential election.

“It’s gonna be Carlos Dangerous,” he added, referencing the “Carlos Danger” pseudonym Wiener used when sending explicit pictures of himself to a 22-year-old woman during a separate scandal in 2013.

But Mr Avenatti responded claiming Mr Trump Jr could himself face a spell behind bars.

“If I were you, the last thing I would be doing is referencing other people getting out of federal prison. Because after you are indicted, you will likely be passing them on your way in,” he wrote.

“BTW, they don’t have silver spoons or gold toilets in the joint. Buckle up Buttercup.”


Mr Avenatti, a vociferous critic of the Trump administration, has previously indicated his interest in a run to oppose the president in 2020, saying the Democratic candidate needs to be a “fighter”.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:53 am    Post subject:

slavavov wrote:
It's about f'in time that Democrats start talking and acting tough!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/eric-holders-rallying-cry-democrats-go-low-kick-em-192841062.html

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A growing number of Democratic politicians have decided that Michelle Obama’s rallying cry, “When they go low, we go high,” won’t cut it in the age of Donald Trump.

Campaigning for Democrats in Georgia over the weekend, former Attorney General Eric Holder took issue with the former first lady’s ethical entreaty.

“Michelle says, ‘When they go low, we go high.’ No, no. When they go low, we kick ’em,” Holder told his audience to applause. “That’s what this new Democratic Party is about. We’re proud as hell to be Democrats. We’re willing to fight for the ideals of the Democratic Party. We’re proud of our history. We’re proud of our present, and we’re proud of the future that we can create for this country. And we’re not in this just to make a statement — we’re in this to win.”


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Holder’s comments came one day after Hillary Clinton made headlines by dismissing calls for political civility with the Republican party.

“You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about,” Clinton told CNN’s Christiane Amanpour on Tuesday. “That’s why I believe if we are fortunate enough to win back the House and/or the Senate, that’s when civility can start again.”


As a liberal Democrat, this encourages me a little. Ever since we got our butts kicked two years ago, I realized that the Dems need to stop being so damn nice and start playing hard and hitting first.

Kinda like how the Lakers beat the Celtics in 1985. Play physical, but not dirty.


Man, how long we been talking about the democrats growing a ‘back bone’... never gonna happen, Dems always need to be politically correct
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:54 am    Post subject:

jodeke wrote:
At the risk of being sited, I'm starting to think OLF is trolling. I fell into the trap.


I sure hope so.

If he's not it's kind of mind blowing to read that stuff and realize you share a common interest (the Lakers) with the person that just wrote it.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:36 am    Post subject:

governator wrote:
slavavov wrote:
It's about f'in time that Democrats start talking and acting tough!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/eric-holders-rallying-cry-democrats-go-low-kick-em-192841062.html

Quote:
A growing number of Democratic politicians have decided that Michelle Obama’s rallying cry, “When they go low, we go high,” won’t cut it in the age of Donald Trump.

Campaigning for Democrats in Georgia over the weekend, former Attorney General Eric Holder took issue with the former first lady’s ethical entreaty.

“Michelle says, ‘When they go low, we go high.’ No, no. When they go low, we kick ’em,” Holder told his audience to applause. “That’s what this new Democratic Party is about. We’re proud as hell to be Democrats. We’re willing to fight for the ideals of the Democratic Party. We’re proud of our history. We’re proud of our present, and we’re proud of the future that we can create for this country. And we’re not in this just to make a statement — we’re in this to win.”


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Holder’s comments came one day after Hillary Clinton made headlines by dismissing calls for political civility with the Republican party.

“You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about,” Clinton told CNN’s Christiane Amanpour on Tuesday. “That’s why I believe if we are fortunate enough to win back the House and/or the Senate, that’s when civility can start again.”


As a liberal Democrat, this encourages me a little. Ever since we got our butts kicked two years ago, I realized that the Dems need to stop being so damn nice and start playing hard and hitting first.

Kinda like how the Lakers beat the Celtics in 1985. Play physical, but not dirty.


Man, how long we been talking about the democrats growing a ‘back bone’... never gonna happen, Dems always need to be politically correct


He did qualify this:

“When I say we kick them, I don’t mean we do anything inappropriate, we don’t do anything illegal, but we have to be tough and we have to fight,” he said.

To which I approve.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:40 am    Post subject:

Bernie Sanders: Building a global democratic movement to counter authoritarianism. https://medium.com/@SenSanders/building-a-global-democratic-movement-to-counter-authoritarianism-46832e3beef6

Transcripts of Bernie’s speech at Johns Hopkins. Diametrically opposed in every way to what we see and hear from Trump.

“The truth is, however, that to effectively oppose right-wing authoritarianism, we cannot simply be on the defensive. We need to be proactive and understand that just defending the failed status quo of the last several decades is not good enough. In fact, we need to recognize that the challenges we face today are a product of that status quo.”
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:21 am    Post subject:

ContagiousInspiration wrote:
tox wrote:
Dominator wrote:
oldlakerfan wrote:

You comment is misleading. It is the dark forces that are behind he New World Order, it is they that have Luciferian ties while Trump ties are to the God of the Bible. Trump is on the side of the Light, pro life, pro Christian, pro Israel. Yes he is flawed but he is God's chosen proving God can use anyone. Many compare him to Cyrus who saved Israel but was not a preacher or prophet.


The scariest thing about this post is that the person that wrote it can vote.

lol


It's legit.

I'm male and nearly cried when id imagine children at home with their Trumpeter Fire families watching episodes of grab them by the (bleep) and war heroes that aren't captured
And then stories of Raping his first wife
And stories of bankrupting everyone
He brings Bill Clinton's accusers to a debate when he himself has even more
Central Park 5.. still guilty
Makes jokes about a female reporter being on her period
Talks about murdering anyone and the (bleep) pieces of trash still voted for him. <<<see .
Obama. Not even an American. Birtherism
Had a for profit university that the government forced shutdown and his students sued him for SCAMMING them...

And the parents look at their children and tell them they love them and want them to grow up just like Trump. He's so great they voted to give him control of the country because they are too (bleep) dumb to know a sleazeball charlatan liar when they see one.


the bold part is not true. They arent too dumb. They are sleazeball charlatans themselves. The difference is, he's just rich(supposedly). They wish they could be him. They like who he is and what he's about because thats who they are and what they are about if they had the access he has. They would play the game the same sleazy way he plays it. thats the part no one really wants to talk about. what does it say about you when you voted for this clown? what does it say about you when you support this slimeball? You can't keep talking politics trying to use that as cover fire for the truth. You yourself are a slimeball TOO. This is why there is no talking to them or trying to see if we can reach a common ground. there is nothing I have in common with a sleazy person.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:33 am    Post subject:

I don't think this Avenatti/Holder strategy of playing Trump's game will work. It's like arguing with a stupid person; they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. And they have a lot of experience. They have no standards. There is no level they won't sink to. Dems can't compete in this kind of game.

Dems need to be confident and believe in America. Trump barely won the election. Don't fall for it.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:34 am    Post subject:

The Thief wrote:
https://www.foxnews.com/us/five-high-school-mean-girls-targeted-boy-with-false-accusations-of-sexual-assault-lawsuit-claims
"The first girl accused the boy of assaulting her in July 2017 at the swimming pool. Another girl, named as Megan Villegas, the only one named in the suit because the others are minors, said she was present during the assault.

But the first girl later admitted making up the allegations, saying “I just don’t like him.”

She allegedly justified her decision to fabricate the allegations during a recorded interview with school officials that was obtained by Fishman. “I just don’t like to hear him talk. … I don’t like to look at him.”

This is why due process is important and we don't just blindly follow mob rule.


That does not contradict the 2-4% rate of someone lying about it. This isn't "proof by contradiction" from an intro to logic class.

If you applied the same principles to guns, then guns would have been outlawed by the GOP long ago.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:01 am    Post subject:

tlim wrote:
The Thief wrote:
https://www.foxnews.com/us/five-high-school-mean-girls-targeted-boy-with-false-accusations-of-sexual-assault-lawsuit-claims
"The first girl accused the boy of assaulting her in July 2017 at the swimming pool. Another girl, named as Megan Villegas, the only one named in the suit because the others are minors, said she was present during the assault.

But the first girl later admitted making up the allegations, saying “I just don’t like him.”

She allegedly justified her decision to fabricate the allegations during a recorded interview with school officials that was obtained by Fishman. “I just don’t like to hear him talk. … I don’t like to look at him.”

This is why due process is important and we don't just blindly follow mob rule.


That does not contradict the 2-4% rate of someone lying about it. This isn't "proof by contradiction" from an intro to logic class.

If you applied the same principles to guns, then guns would have been outlawed by the GOP long ago.

Excellent points, both of them.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:02 am    Post subject:

The Lebrons wrote:
I don't think this Avenatti/Holder strategy of playing Trump's game will work. It's like arguing with a stupid person; they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. And they have a lot of experience. They have no standards. There is no level they won't sink to. Dems can't compete in this kind of game.

Dems need to be confident and believe in America. Trump barely won the election. Don't fall for it.
i agree with you on the angle wont work because you are only doing that to satisfy angry dems and trump haters or trump voter haters. which is fine. but that aint policy. thats not the answer.
even if you beat him at his own game you still lose.

Dont believe in ALL americans. Believe in the ones that believe in sanity in the white house. The rest of them can kick rocks. Dont even target your message to them or think about them. like you said, if you're arguing with a crazy person when speaking of trump, how crazy is his followers? Think about that.

I dont try to convince drunk people of anything of substance. Their drunk. we'll talk when they sober up...or not. I'm talking to the sober minded individuals only. You want to sober up and come to the meeting with us? fine, be my guest. Until then. I'm not even thinking about you if I was a dem/independent politician.
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paymonM wrote:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/michael-avenatti-offers-fight-donald-125002890.html

Michael Avenatti offers to fight Donald Trump Jr for charity


One of the reasons I wasn't wild about the idea people were floating around about him running in 2020.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:30 am    Post subject:

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He did qualify this:

“When I say we kick them, I don’t mean we do anything inappropriate, we don’t do anything illegal, but we have to be tough and we have to fight,” he said.

To which I approve.


Yeah, but it was an asinine choice of words that just plays into the GOP's hands. Dems have to be assertive and dedicated, but they also have to be smart more than anything. That comment was anything but.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:31 am    Post subject:

The Lebrons wrote:
I don't think this Avenatti/Holder strategy of playing Trump's game will work. It's like arguing with a stupid person; they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. And they have a lot of experience. They have no standards. There is no level they won't sink to. Dems can't compete in this kind of game.

Dems need to be confident and believe in America. Trump barely won the election. Don't fall for it.


Not only will it not work, it will backfire.
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DaMuleRules wrote:
Dominator wrote:
oldlakerfan wrote:

You comment is misleading. It is the dark forces that are behind he New World Order, it is they that have Luciferian ties while Trump ties are to the God of the Bible. Trump is on the side of the Light, pro life, pro Christian, pro Israel. Yes he is flawed but he is God's chosen proving God can use anyone. Many compare him to Cyrus who saved Israel but was not a preacher or prophet.


The scariest thing about this post is that the person that wrote it can vote.


And the important thing about that post is that despite the complete disagreement with what is said, we support olf’s right to vote.

Meanwhile the people he chooses to support and align himself with do just the opposite.


Voting Rights Become A Flashpoint In Georgia Governor’s Race
Brian Kemp, the Republican candidate for governor, is in charge of elections and voter registration in Georgia.


Marsha Appling-Nunez was showing the college students she teaches how to check online if they’re registered to vote when she made a troubling discovery. Despite being an active Georgia voter who had cast ballots in recent elections, she was no longer registered.

“I was kind of shocked,” said Appling-Nunez, who moved from one Atlanta suburb to another in May and believed she had successfully changed her address on the voter rolls.

“I’ve always voted. I try to not miss any elections, including local ones,” Appling-Nunez said.

She tried re-registering, but with about one month left before a November election that will decide a governor’s race and some competitive U.S. House races, Appling-Nunez’s application is one of over 53,000 sitting on hold with Georgia Secretary of State Brian Kemp’s office. And unlike Appling-Nunez, many people on that list — which is predominantly black, according to an analysis by The Associated Press — may not even know their voter registration has been held up.

Tuesday is Georgia’s deadline to register and be eligible to vote in the November General Election.

Kemp, who’s also the Republican candidate for governor, is in charge of elections and voter registration in Georgia.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:58 am    Post subject:

The Thief wrote:
https://www.foxnews.com/us/five-high-school-mean-girls-targeted-boy-with-false-accusations-of-sexual-assault-lawsuit-claims
"The first girl accused the boy of assaulting her in July 2017 at the swimming pool. Another girl, named as Megan Villegas, the only one named in the suit because the others are minors, said she was present during the assault.

But the first girl later admitted making up the allegations, saying “I just don’t like him.”

She allegedly justified her decision to fabricate the allegations during a recorded interview with school officials that was obtained by Fishman. “I just don’t like to hear him talk. … I don’t like to look at him.”

This is why due process is important and we don't just blindly follow mob rule.

If I took the time to post all the news stories about women who were assaulted and weren't believed. I would break this thread. In the large majority of cases, women have more to lose than to gain by coming forward. Ask Dr. Ford.

Besides Fox News propaganda doesn't really have the same draw it used too. Now that we got OLF giving us InfoWars conspiracies and Evangelical rationalizations of Trump.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:11 am    Post subject:

DaMuleRules wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
Dominator wrote:
oldlakerfan wrote:

You comment is misleading. It is the dark forces that are behind he New World Order, it is they that have Luciferian ties while Trump ties are to the God of the Bible. Trump is on the side of the Light, pro life, pro Christian, pro Israel. Yes he is flawed but he is God's chosen proving God can use anyone. Many compare him to Cyrus who saved Israel but was not a preacher or prophet.


The scariest thing about this post is that the person that wrote it can vote.


And the important thing about that post is that despite the complete disagreement with what is said, we support olf’s right to vote.

Meanwhile the people he chooses to support and align himself with do just the opposite.




Voting Rights Become A Flashpoint In Georgia Governor’s Race
Brian Kemp, the Republican candidate for governor, is in charge of elections and voter registration in Georgia.


Marsha Appling-Nunez was showing the college students she teaches how to check online if they’re registered to vote when she made a troubling discovery. Despite being an active Georgia voter who had cast ballots in recent elections, she was no longer registered.

“I was kind of shocked,” said Appling-Nunez, who moved from one Atlanta suburb to another in May and believed she had successfully changed her address on the voter rolls.

“I’ve always voted. I try to not miss any elections, including local ones,” Appling-Nunez said.

She tried re-registering, but with about one month left before a November election that will decide a governor’s race and some competitive U.S. House races, Appling-Nunez’s application is one of over 53,000 sitting on hold with Georgia Secretary of State Brian Kemp’s office. And unlike Appling-Nunez, many people on that list — which is predominantly black, according to an analysis by The Associated Press — may not even know their voter registration has been held up.

Tuesday is Georgia’s deadline to register and be eligible to vote in the November General Election.

Kemp, who’s also the Republican candidate for governor, is in charge of elections and voter registration in Georgia.


IMHO. The U.S. Military or National Guard need to arrest anyone involved immediately

If i was a Resident who was one of 53000 and I was a minority I would owe that man Zero Respect for the Law of his land. Anything I wanted to do as revenge would be acceptable in my soul.

Any human who abuses his power in this way isn't an American and should exchange citizen title for Prisoner
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:16 am    Post subject:

DaMuleRules wrote:
ribeye wrote:

He did qualify this:

“When I say we kick them, I don’t mean we do anything inappropriate, we don’t do anything illegal, but we have to be tough and we have to fight,” he said.

To which I approve.


Yeah, but it was an asinine choice of words that just plays into the GOP's hands. Dems have to be assertive and dedicated, but they also have to be smart more than anything. That comment was anything but.


What was an asinine choice of words: not doing anything inappropriate or illegal? Generally speaking, I agree the Dems should not do anything inappropriate such as lying or cheating, or, certainly, anything illegal. If I understood you correctly, and you believe they should, perhaps you can provide some examples so we are a bit clearer on what we are saying.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:17 am    Post subject:

ribeye wrote:
tlim wrote:
The Thief wrote:
https://www.foxnews.com/us/five-high-school-mean-girls-targeted-boy-with-false-accusations-of-sexual-assault-lawsuit-claims
"The first girl accused the boy of assaulting her in July 2017 at the swimming pool. Another girl, named as Megan Villegas, the only one named in the suit because the others are minors, said she was present during the assault.

But the first girl later admitted making up the allegations, saying “I just don’t like him.”

She allegedly justified her decision to fabricate the allegations during a recorded interview with school officials that was obtained by Fishman. “I just don’t like to hear him talk. … I don’t like to look at him.”

This is why due process is important and we don't just blindly follow mob rule.


That does not contradict the 2-4% rate of someone lying about it. This isn't "proof by contradiction" from an intro to logic class.

If you applied the same principles to guns, then guns would have been outlawed by the GOP long ago.

Excellent points, both of them.


Boys and men have a higher likelihood of being sexually assaulted than they do of being falsely accused of sexual assault, by a wide margin.
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