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lakersken80 Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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Isn't this the 2nd NFL player killed in New Orleans in a road rage incident? |
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Quote: | A witness at the scene told the newspaper the victim, McKnight, was trying to apologize to another man who was yelling at him. The shooter fired more than once then stood over McKnight’s body and said, “I told you don’t you f— with me,” before firing again, the witness said. |
Such evil. |
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lakersken80 Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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This was in the afternoon too. Seems like there are a lot of people one incident from snapping. |
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USCandLakers Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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So senseless. My thoughts go out to his family. I know this type of loss and they've got a very tough road ahead of them. He was one of my favorite players to watch at USC. This is a damn shame. _________________ A banana is killed every time a terrible thread or post is made. Save the bananas. Stop creating terrible posts! |
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LakerLanny Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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Really sad, New Orleans and the surrounding areas are a hell hole. _________________ Love, Laker Lanny |
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vanexelent Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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LakerLanny wrote: | Really sad, New Orleans and the surrounding areas are a hell hole. |
10 people were shot just last week, on Bourbon St. 1 killed. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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lakersken80 wrote: | This was in the afternoon too. Seems like there are a lot of people one incident from snapping. |
It is a highly depressed area. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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AllorNothing Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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This is so sad and stupid. Even if you had a gun , you can always drive off. Only way this would be justified is if McKnight trapped the shooter's car from maneuvering . |
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LongBeachPoly Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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AllorNothing wrote: | This is so sad and stupid. Even if you had a gun , you can always drive off. Only way this would be justified is if McKnight trapped the shooter's car from maneuvering . |
What do you mean? |
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the association Star Player
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 1:17 am Post subject: |
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http://deadspin.com/joe-mcknights-alleged-killer-has-a-previous-arrest-on-r-1789631180
I don't know how they're going to maneuver out from under the crushing weight of these inconvenient details, but it's a travesty that the individual who took McKnight's life is enjoying unsupervised freedom in the community right now. If the details of this previous arrest and the details provided by purported witnesses in this killing don't warrant detention, we're all (bleep) ... do they need a signed confession, accompanied by a self-narrated audio + video recording of the incident? What the (bleep) already ... |
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vanexelent wrote: | Quote: | A witness at the scene told the newspaper the victim, McKnight, was trying to apologize to another man who was yelling at him. The shooter fired more than once then stood over McKnight’s body and said, “I told you don’t you f— with me,” before firing again, the witness said. |
Such evil. |
Sounds like a great movie scene |
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lakersken80 Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 8:07 am Post subject: |
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People are nuts when they get behind the wheel....perhaps instead of getting out of the car to confront a potential aggressor when you get into a road rage incident, drive to the nearest police station and report it there. |
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OregonLakerGuy Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:56 am Post subject: |
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ContagiousInspiration wrote: | vanexelent wrote: | Quote: | A witness at the scene told the newspaper the victim, McKnight, was trying to apologize to another man who was yelling at him. The shooter fired more than once then stood over McKnight’s body and said, “I told you don’t you f— with me,” before firing again, the witness said. |
Such evil. |
Sounds like a great movie scene |
Yup. Fictional. Just like in the movies. |
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LongBeachPoly Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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the association wrote: | http://deadspin.com/joe-mcknights-alleged-killer-has-a-previous-arrest-on-r-1789631180
I don't know how they're going to maneuver out from under the crushing weight of these inconvenient details, but it's a travesty that the individual who took McKnight's life is enjoying unsupervised freedom in the community right now. If the details of this previous arrest and the details provided by purported witnesses in this killing don't warrant detention, we're all (bleep) ... do they need a signed confession, accompanied by a self-narrated audio + video recording of the incident? What the (bleep) already ... |
I think the issue is you can't arrest and detain him indefinitely; you're going to have to charge him.
At this point they don't know what to charge him with. Is it murder, manslaughter? They want the DA to decide and they feel he's not going anywhere. I think they will eventually charge him w/ something. |
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the association Star Player
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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LongBeachPoly wrote: | the association wrote: | http://deadspin.com/joe-mcknights-alleged-killer-has-a-previous-arrest-on-r-1789631180
I don't know how they're going to maneuver out from under the crushing weight of these inconvenient details, but it's a travesty that the individual who took McKnight's life is enjoying unsupervised freedom in the community right now. If the details of this previous arrest and the details provided by purported witnesses in this killing don't warrant detention, we're all (bleep) ... do they need a signed confession, accompanied by a self-narrated audio + video recording of the incident? What the (bleep) already ... |
I think the issue is you can't arrest and detain him indefinitely; you're going to have to charge him.
At this point they don't know what to charge him with. Is it murder, manslaughter? They want the DA to decide and they feel he's not going anywhere. I think they will eventually charge him w/ something. |
I hear you, but I'm also aware of nothing at this point that would have prevented them from detaining him on a manslaughter charge (to be filed within the applicable time limit), for example, and then superseding later with a second degree murder indictment ...
I guess the legal beagles can weigh-in, but this doesn't smell right to me ... |
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LongBeachPoly Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 12:27 am Post subject: |
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the association wrote: | LongBeachPoly wrote: | the association wrote: | http://deadspin.com/joe-mcknights-alleged-killer-has-a-previous-arrest-on-r-1789631180
I don't know how they're going to maneuver out from under the crushing weight of these inconvenient details, but it's a travesty that the individual who took McKnight's life is enjoying unsupervised freedom in the community right now. If the details of this previous arrest and the details provided by purported witnesses in this killing don't warrant detention, we're all (bleep) ... do they need a signed confession, accompanied by a self-narrated audio + video recording of the incident? What the (bleep) already ... |
I think the issue is you can't arrest and detain him indefinitely; you're going to have to charge him.
At this point they don't know what to charge him with. Is it murder, manslaughter? They want the DA to decide and they feel he's not going anywhere. I think they will eventually charge him w/ something. |
I hear you, but I'm also aware of nothing at this point that would have prevented them from detaining him on a manslaughter charge (to be filed within the applicable time limit), for example, and then superseding later with a second degree murder indictment ...
I guess the legal beagles can weigh-in, but this doesn't smell right to me ... |
Should JPSO have arrested Joe McKnight's shooter? Experts disagree
http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2016/12/joe_mcknight_arrest_race.html |
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lakerjoshua Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 8:32 am Post subject: |
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Charged with Manslaughter. Was watching the press conference live when the sheriff launched into a description of the shooters statements and MSNBC had to cut away. Definitely NSFW. |
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the association Star Player
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 9:09 am Post subject: |
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lakerjoshua wrote: | Charged with Manslaughter. Was watching the press conference live when the sheriff launched into a description of the shooters statements and MSNBC had to cut away. Definitely NSFW. |
I haven't had an opportunity to factcheck, but I've read elsewhere that the Sheriff and the shooter shared a significant social affiliation ("Many people are saying ..."). By extension, some had surmised that he elected not to detain the shooter as a courtesy to permit him to attend to his affairs before the eventuality that he would be detained on charges of one kind or another.
Regardless, I have to admit that the opening salvo of a manslaughter charge concerns me, particularly if a superseding indictment doesn't appear on the horizon. At this point, I don't expect to see a conviction here. Without incontrovertible evidence that McKnight brandished a firearm and at least pointed it at the shooter, there was no legitimate justification for this shooting and this may shape up as another miscarriage of justice, IMO. And I know, AH ... the laws in this jurisdiction might hold otherwise. But that doesn't make it any more right in my book ... |
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 9:52 am Post subject: |
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if he gets away with this then they are pretty much saying you can drive around in your car antagonizing people, and if they take one step towards your car you can blast away because you "feared for your life" |
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/26/joe-mcknights-killer-found-guilty-of-manslaughter/
Quote: | Joe McKnight’s killer found guilty of manslaughter
A jury found Ronald Gasser guilty of manslaughter in the shooting death of former NFL running back Joe McKnight, via multiple reports.
The Jefferson (La.) Parish jury deliberated more than seven hours before reaching their verdict.
Gasser faces up to 40 years in prison. He could have faced life in prison for a second-degree murder conviction. The judge in the case will decide how many years he serves.
Defense attorneys argued Gasser fired in self-defense after a road-rage incident in the December 2016 shooting.
McKnight played for the University of Southern California and was a fourth-round pick of the Jets in 2010. He played four NFL seasons, including one with the Chiefs, and rushed for 505 career yards. |
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:53 am Post subject: |
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I hope he gets a max sentence. 40 years would be perfect. _________________ Love, Laker Lanny |
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/03/15/joe-mcknights-killer-gets-30-years/
Quote: | Joe McKnight’s killer gets 30 years
The man who shot and killed former NFL running back Joe McKnight will pay a step price for the crime. Ronald Gasser has been sentenced to 30 years in prison.
“Let this be a cautionary tale to all drivers who rage behind the wheel of their car at other drivers,” Judge Ellen Kovach said at the sentencing hearing, via NOLA.com. She added that McKnight’s death could have been avoided if Gasser simply “had the good sense, the courage and the wisdom to simply disengage.”
Gasser’s lawyers tried to argue that the shooting of McKnight, which happened in a fit of road rage, fell within the confines of the state’s definition of justifiable homicide, arguing that McKnight lunger into Gasser’s car. The evidence, however, contradicted a shooting in such close quarters.
Prosecutors had charged Gasser with second-degree murder. The conviction came on a lesser-included charge of manslaughter. |
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