Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 9:02 am Post subject: Maybe Byron Wasn't The Problem?
Everyone criticized Byron heavily last season including myself. Everyone really praised Luke early in the season including myself. However looking at how bad the team is struggling now after reality set in and now they're tied for the most losses in the league. Their defense is obviously horrific and even though offensively they're improved, but not enough to offset such horrible defensive play. Maybe it's time to realize Byron wasn't the problem on this team. Maybe these young guys aren't that good. Maybe Byron wasn't that bad. Maybe he was right Russell thinks he's better than he really is. Maybe these offseason signings have really done nothing for us and this franchise's future is a lot bleaker than we'd like to think. It's depressing because I was so excited about this team and they look poised for another lottery trip. _________________ #CowboysNation
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The problem was never Byron. It's always been lack of talent, and even a smart guy like Luke will be lucky to win 24 games this year.
Very rare to have an NBA coach make much of an impact at all on a team. Some may get them over the hump or marginal improve a bit, but none are going to take a 20 win team and make it a 40 win team with the same personnel.
The only coach that really got the most out of his guys was Stotts last year in Portland. No one expected them to do what they did. But now it appears to be a fluke since they stink again this year.
The problem was never Byron. It's always been lack of talent, and even a smart guy like Luke will be lucky to win 24 games this year.
Very rare to have an NBA coach make much of an impact at all on a team. Some may get them over the hump or marginal improve a bit, but none are going to take a 20 win team and make it a 40 win team with the same personnel.
The only coach that really got the most out of his guys was Stotts last year in Portland. No one expected them to do what they did. But now it appears to be a fluke since they stink again this year.
It was absolutely Byron even if you are right that it's about talent. This team was going nowhere with him bc he basically destroyed his relationships with DLo and Randle. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
Hey fellow Israelites I know wandering the desert is tough but let's go back to Egypt and Pharoah. He whipped us but at least we had a roof over our heads so to speak. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 9:39 am Post subject:
justsomelakerfan wrote:
Byron wasn't the problem.
Byron was a huge problem.
Was about to say the same thing.
He DEFINITELY was a problem.
But THEE problem. Maybe not. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better”
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He certainly wasn't the answer. Of course the team had/has issues, but I didn't like his process of trying to correct them. _________________ LeBron, AD, & _________. Stay tuned.
"...there was a time when the Israelites were wandering in the desert and all of a sudden, bread came down from heaven,” Pelinka said. “That’s kind of what today feels like for us to have KCP join.”
Wasn't about to say the same thing.
He DEFINITELY was a problem.
But THEE problem. Maybe not.
What was clear is that he isn't the type of coach for a rebuild.
Or any NBA team, really. But especially a rebuild.
He was the worst possible personality to steer a bunch of new faces looking for confidence and guidance. And strategy lol _________________ Austin Reaves
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Hey fellow Israelites I know wandering the desert is tough but let's go back to Egypt and Pharoah. He whipped us but at least we had a roof over our heads so to speak.
Do you honestly think that Byron would not coach the Cavs (with Lebron) or the Warriors to 60+ wins a trip to the Finals?
Or how about this? Take this current Lakers squad, and have them coached by these three guys this season:
Luke
Byron
D'Antoni
Who wins what?
I'll go with:
Luke: 24-58
D'Antoni: 28-54
Byron: 22-60
do you agree? Or do you think it would be something else? My point is that it wouldnt matter all that much who was coaching.
I'd throw Phil in there, but we all know he'd never coach a team with this little talent.
Hey fellow Israelites I know wandering the desert is tough but let's go back to Egypt and Pharoah. He whipped us but at least we had a roof over our heads so to speak.
Do you honestly think that Byron would not coach the Cavs (with Lebron) or the Warriors to 60+ wins a trip to the Finals?
Or how about this? Take this current Lakers squad, and have them coached by these three guys this season:
Luke
Byron
D'Antoni
Phil
Who wins what?
I'll go with:
Luke: 24-58
D'Antoni: 28-54
Byron: 22-60
do you agree? Or do you think it would be something else? My point is that it wouldnt matter all that much who was coaching.
I'd throw Phil in there, but we all know he'd never coach a team with this little talent.
My point is the whole point was that they wanted a rebuild coach and Byron has never been good st that. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
We have many problems, some like youth, aren't fixable easily. But the Byron Problem was absolutely fixable.
Yeah. As we knew we were rebuilding Byron was the wrong voice for the team. Just destroyed the young players' morale. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
Anyone who says Byron wasn't a problem was likely in a coma the past two years. He was absolutely horrid, like historically bad, in all facets -- X's and O's, leadership, humanity, etc.
He was a coach without any redeeming qualities and I use the term coach loosely. He did nothing well. As bad as I have ever seen.
Pity. I was a big fan of Scott the player and had high hopes.
Hey fellow Israelites I know wandering the desert is tough but let's go back to Egypt and Pharoah. He whipped us but at least we had a roof over our heads so to speak.
Seriously, these Byron apologists now showing up in a moment of struggle like we're not vastly improved over last year in terms of coaching and performance -_-
This is why we can't have nice things. People always looking for the freaking quick fix.
It's very annoying, but they gotta get used to it I guess, so they can actually fully understand what a rebuild is and accept that instead of hoping for a one year instant Finals turnaround fix.
And it ain't that "Byron just isn' the right coach for a rebuild"
Byron isn't the right coach for the NBA 2009-2016 Period!
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 10:28 am Post subject:
He was an easy, all-purpose excuse for every ill that inflicted this team, although almost every coach on a losing team usually is. For MDA it was the same.
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