Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:37 pm Post subject: Luke it is time to make D'Angelo Russell a scorer...
I believe Russell is ready to become a scorer, not a shooting guard but a scorer. Forget stats, he needs to put the ball up 20-25 times a night. Not run the show, but score anyway possible.
Let's just do this thing, let's build the team around him. No more half assing it.
What do you think?
That's not the type of team Luke is trying to build. Ball movement and getting the best shot available are more important than getting any individual player a bunch of shots.
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Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:40 pm Post subject: Re: Luke it is time to make D'Angelo Russell a scorer...
KG24 wrote:
I believe Russell is ready to become a scorer, not a shooting guard but a scorer. Forget stats, he needs to put the ball up 20-25 times a night. Not run the show, but score anyway possible.
Let's just do this thing, let's build the team around him. No more half assing it.
What do you think?
if anything, I would say it is MPG being limited...he pretty much has a green light now. He got up 18 last night in 31...so 35 MPG probably gets him to 21-22.
That's not the type of team Luke is trying to build. Ball movement and getting the best shot available are more important than getting any individual player a bunch of shots.
And that is why he will fail! Until he realized, you can do both. You move the ball. But when it get's to Russell it goes to the hoop 80% of the time. Either he is your franchise player or not.
That's not the type of team Luke is trying to build. Ball movement and getting the best shot available are more important than getting any individual player a bunch of shots.
And that is why he will fail! Until he realized, you can do both. You move the ball. But when it get's to Russell it goes to the hoop 80% of the time. Either he is your franchise player or not.
It's not that simple. The Warriors and Spurs have had tons of success while focusing on ball movement, not sure why the Lakers can't as well.
That's not the type of team Luke is trying to build. Ball movement and getting the best shot available are more important than getting any individual player a bunch of shots.
And that is why he will fail! Until he realized, you can do both. You move the ball. But when it get's to Russell it goes to the hoop 80% of the time. Either he is your franchise player or not.
It's not that simple. The Warriors and Spurs have had tons of success while focusing on ball movement, not sure why the Lakers can't as well.
You can still have ball movement.. but create around 15 plays for your franchise player. Let him be a specialist in scoring. They say you need a superstar to win in this league, well let's mak Russell a superstar. Where another superstar may want to join forces with him in the future.
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Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:16 pm Post subject:
BigGameHames wrote:
That's not the type of team Luke is trying to build. Ball movement and getting the best shot available are more important than getting any individual player a bunch of shots.
All Klay really does is shoot. As long as it is an assisted, open shot and not an iso I don't see the problem.
That's not the type of team Luke is trying to build. Ball movement and getting the best shot available are more important than getting any individual player a bunch of shots.
All Klay really does is shoot. As long as it is an assisted, open shot and not an iso I don't see the problem.
My point is you can't get any player 21-25 open assisted shots in an NBA game. If it was possible, then sure.
That's not the type of team Luke is trying to build. Ball movement and getting the best shot available are more important than getting any individual player a bunch of shots.
All Klay really does is shoot. As long as it is an assisted, open shot and not an iso I don't see the problem.
My point is you can't get any player 21-25 open assisted shots in an NBA game. If it was possible, then sure.
That's not the type of team Luke is trying to build. Ball movement and getting the best shot available are more important than getting any individual player a bunch of shots.
All Klay really does is shoot. As long as it is an assisted, open shot and not an iso I don't see the problem.
My point is you can't get any player 21-25 open assisted shots in an NBA game. If it was possible, then sure.
Every single shot has to be assisted?
No they need to be in rythym and in the flow of the offense. I said assisted partially because that was the criteria brought up by the previous poster.
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Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:38 pm Post subject:
Ujah's Goat wrote:
BigGameHames wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
BigGameHames wrote:
That's not the type of team Luke is trying to build. Ball movement and getting the best shot available are more important than getting any individual player a bunch of shots.
All Klay really does is shoot. As long as it is an assisted, open shot and not an iso I don't see the problem.
My point is you can't get any player 21-25 open assisted shots in an NBA game. If it was possible, then sure.
Every single shot has to be assisted?
Ok that came out poorly. Mostly open and assisted. The point is you can put him in a primary shooting and scoring role without just telling him to go hogwild.
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That's not the type of team Luke is trying to build. Ball movement and getting the best shot available are more important than getting any individual player a bunch of shots.
All Klay really does is shoot. As long as it is an assisted, open shot and not an iso I don't see the problem.
My point is you can't get any player 21-25 open assisted shots in an NBA game. If it was possible, then sure.
Every single shot has to be assisted?
Ok that came out poorly. Mostly open and assisted.
I like the idea of bringing all of the young prospects along slowly and teaching them to play the right way. Especially Russell since he's going to be running the show. I think it's pretty obvious to everyone that the kid has a knack for scoring and will be a pretty damn good scorer in this league as his shot gets more consistent, but you can't rush that imo. Let it happen in its own time and meanwhile work on his weaknesses, mainly learning to be a point guard.
Last thing I want is a guy who is much less talented than Kobe chucking up shots like he's Kobe. I don't think that is good habit forming if the long term goal is title contention. Now if you just want to see your favorite player shooting and scoring a lot then I see why you want that.
That's not the type of team Luke is trying to build. Ball movement and getting the best shot available are more important than getting any individual player a bunch of shots.
All Klay really does is shoot. As long as it is an assisted, open shot and not an iso I don't see the problem.
My point is you can't get any player 21-25 open assisted shots in an NBA game. If it was possible, then sure.
Every single shot has to be assisted?
Ok that came out poorly. Mostly open and assisted.
Same for my post
Thanks for clarifying. As for the OP, I agree to an extent. I want to see a much more aggressive Russell in the second half of the season, the one we saw lighting up Summer League.
Perhaps if D'Lo becomes more of a scorer, the team can meaningfully develop Randle's and Ingram's play making.
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Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:03 pm Post subject:
Outspoken wrote:
it's time to move him from point, to his natural position.
They might do that if they pick up a vet PG in free agency. If not I would prefer him remaining where he is so he can utilize his size. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 6:39 am Post subject: Re: Luke it is time to make D'Angelo Russell a scorer...
KG24 wrote:
I believe Russell is ready to become a scorer, not a shooting guard but a scorer. Forget stats, he needs to put the ball up 20-25 times a night. Not run the show, but score anyway possible.
Let's just do this thing, let's build the team around him. No more half assing it.
What do you think?
They seem to be building it around him while instilling team ball. I'm not worried about that. Problem is the only two real shooters other than Russell on the team are two old vets: Young and Lou. Randall has NO SHOT, Ingram evidences NO SHOT. Mos has a nice mid range shot but is older also and not really part of the 'plans.' The two hustling 'centers/pf' are bricklayers. Larry has NO SHOT (from lacking confidence.) Clarkson has a reasonable shot but is largely inconsistent. NO SHOOTERS = NO CHANCE. Right now the Lakes win when the grit it out and either or both Wms and Nick are on. (Deng is worthless, pretty much, except as a "5mil elderly influence." Oh yeah, he gets 18. Bad bad business decision with he, Calderone and Huertas. )
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Russell is not capable of putting the ball up 20-25 times a night, at least not if you want solid shots
Agree that. He reminds me of Frazier, from the old Nick days (potentially.) Not quick enough to really dominate. Needs to step up his "D" to really become someone important going forward.
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:02 am Post subject: Re: Luke it is time to make D'Angelo Russell a scorer...
[quote="KG24"]I believe Russell is ready to become a scorer, not a shooting guard but a scorer. Forget stats, he needs to put the ball up 20-25 times a night. Not run the show, but score anyway possible.
Let's just do this thing, let's build the team around him. No more half assing it.
What do you think?[/quote]
I think the team sucks when he tries to be a scorer. I think the best reason for him being a scorer is to increase his trade value. Maybe its because he is playing PG, but it is odd that such a good passer is so poor and running the team and getting others involved. And before the Lakers try to build around this guy, can they make he play defense?
I just don't get what you other fans see in this kid. I think he is average at best.
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