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DaMuleRules Retired Number
Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 52654 Location: Making a safety stop at 15 feet.
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:53 pm Post subject: Any Electricians Out There? |
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I've been dealing with a power issue in my house that has me confounded.
My wife called me this evening asking if I could come home early because the electricity in our kitchen was out - no problem right? Must just be a circuit breaker. I walk her through checking the circuit breakers. None are tripped and resetting the ones to the kitchen has no effect. During the phone conversation it turns out that as my wife is checking circuit breakers and power around the house, certain areas are without power while others are fine.
So I come home because this is clearly more involved. She calls me on the way to say that the power to the kitchen is now fine, except the lights are fading in and out. Great. I get home and discover that half the exterior Xmas lights are out. I think it's just the timer they are on being in the off position. Nope. The GFI outlet they are plugged into has no power, nor will the outlet reset when the reset button is pressed.
I walk in the house and literally as I do, the kitchen power is completely dead again, while most of the rest of the house is fine. I do my own check of the circuit breakers and all seems fine, but half the house is without power and half the GFI outlets are off and not resettable. I call our electrician. He says that he is backed up for off hours emergency visits and it is likely a DWP issue - it's not uncommon for there to be a partial power outage to the home off there is a power company issue. He says he could have a crew come out later in the night, but it's be four times the money of a regular visit and I should check with my neighbors and DWP to see if it's a neighborhood issue. My two neighbors are not having the issue. The DWP automated system would only take a serve request, but I couldn't talk to a person.
The power in the kitchen returned for a few minutes in the meantime, but has since been out (and it;s HALF the kitchen - some lights and appliances work, some do not).
I've done some Googling and this sounds like it is an "out of phase" situation - there is some kind of compromise in the two different 120 power feeds to the house. Some info says this is a power company issue. Some say this could be an issue at the house. Some say this could be a dangerous issue that leads to a short that could cause a fire . . .
So anyone out there versed in this kind of thing? Everything seems fine in 75% of the house. But the refrigerator and some lights don't work.
DWP can't check for four plus hours and I'm not sure they if they will check my immediate area or my house specifically. The Electrican's can come in the middle of the night, but it is going to be costly and they don't think it is a power box issue because it sounds like a DWP issue.
Should I be concerned, or should I just wait it out until I can get the electricians in and DWP to check it out? _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Jason Isbell
Man, do those lyrics resonate right now |
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Huey Lewis & The News Star Player
Joined: 18 Dec 2015 Posts: 5234 Location: So what's the uh...topic of discussion?
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lakerjoshua Franchise Player
Joined: 28 Nov 2007 Posts: 11277 Location: Bay Area
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:36 am Post subject: |
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I like this answer the best
Quote: | Don't try to do this one yourself because those big cables are always live with 100 or 200 amps of raw power. If anything goes wrong you'll basically be arc welded to death |
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DaMuleRules Retired Number
Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 52654 Location: Making a safety stop at 15 feet.
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:06 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Monty!
Turns out it was a phase issue with the DWP. Finally came out at early this morning and solved at a nearby power pole apparently. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Jason Isbell
Man, do those lyrics resonate right now |
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LarryCoon Site Staff
Joined: 11 Aug 2002 Posts: 11265
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:52 am Post subject: |
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Glad it's solved. I just had an issue that was reminiscent of yours -- outlets were out in two bathrooms. All other outlets in the house were fine, and lights & other electricity in those bathrooms were fine too. I was sure it was a GFCI issue, but none of the resets helped, and the circuit breakers were all fine. My neighbor is a contractor, he sent over his electrician (for free, so he didn't get too far into it), who took a look, couldn't' find the problem, and said there must be another GFCI in the house, hidden somewhere, that needs to be reset. There isn't. Called another electrician, this time at full price. He found the problem -- it was a wire to the GFCI in my daughter's bathroom that had come loose and was arcing-- fixed it, and "modernized" the GFCI so that every GFCI outlet in the house has its own reset. |
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LakersRGolden Star Player
Joined: 13 Jan 2002 Posts: 7922 Location: Lake Forest
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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gfci's are a pain in the arse. The one to my upstairs bathroom is in my garage. Nowhere near anything else. Took me 3 days to find it the first time it popped.
I wish there was a central place for them. |
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LarryCoon Site Staff
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:01 am Post subject: |
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The new standard is to have reset buttons on all of them. That's the way my house is now. |
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cathy78 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:02 am Post subject: |
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LakersRGolden wrote: | gfci's are a pain in the arse. The one to my upstairs bathroom is in my garage. Nowhere near anything else. Took me 3 days to find it the first time it popped.
I wish there was a central place for them. |
A GFCI should be installed before your circuit breakers. That should be a pretty central place... |
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ExPatLkrFan Star Player
Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 3984 Location: Mukdahan, Thailand
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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cathy78 wrote: | LakersRGolden wrote: | gfci's are a pain in the arse. The one to my upstairs bathroom is in my garage. Nowhere near anything else. Took me 3 days to find it the first time it popped.
I wish there was a central place for them. |
A GFCI should be installed before your circuit breakers. That should be a pretty central place... |
That is how mine is installed. It sits right next to the breaker box and has adjustable sensitivity.
Here its called a safety cut |
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