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Keep T-Rob, release MWP |
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Release T-Rob and give Peace a chance |
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justsomelakerfan Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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Announced on twitter today that they're keeping T-Rob and... MWP.
I guess they can just waive Metta whenever, but I'm increasingly skeptical of the front office rolling the dice on anything this season. But, we'll see! _________________ Austin Reaves
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adkindo Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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danzag wrote: | governator wrote: | T-Rob allows us to trade T-Black |
Tarik is much better than Thomas. |
based on what? They are extremely close in my opinion. |
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adkindo Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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justsomelakerfan wrote: | Announced on twitter today that they're keeping T-Rob and... MWP.
I guess they can just waive Metta whenever, but I'm increasingly skeptical of the front office rolling the dice on anything this season. But, we'll see! |
cool, honestly I would rather MWP have the cash....so that is at least a good thing in my opinion. |
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ringfinger Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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Just don't get the MWp thing. He can do everything he is already doing without the roster spot.
Or maybe they want to wait and see for trade deadline and want the flexibility of his roster spot. |
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waterman40 Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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MWP seems to be there as basically a bench coach, even though he isn't really helping on the court anymore. But I think they only let him go if they want to use the roster spot for a trade or a waiver choice.
No downside to keeping Robinson, and he has produced. _________________ LAKERS 2019-2020: NBA World Champions! |
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Halflife Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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ringfinger wrote: | Just don't get the MWp thing. He can do everything he is already doing without the roster spot.
Or maybe they want to wait and see for trade deadline and want the flexibility of his roster spot. |
Luke was pretty clear last night. He wants mwp around team. Every team in league has a guy that is basically a warm body. He at least has some roi by helping our young guys. |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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Halflife wrote: | ringfinger wrote: | Just don't get the MWp thing. He can do everything he is already doing without the roster spot.
Or maybe they want to wait and see for trade deadline and want the flexibility of his roster spot. |
Luke was pretty clear last night. He wants mwp around team. Every team in league has a guy that is basically a warm body. He at least has some roi by helping our young guys. |
I'd rather have MWP instead of Sacre and/or Kelly. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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ringfinger wrote: | Just don't get the MWp thing. He can do everything he is already doing without the roster spot.
Or maybe they want to wait and see for trade deadline and want the flexibility of his roster spot. |
No he can't, he can't be a player without a roster spot. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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ringfinger Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | ringfinger wrote: | Just don't get the MWp thing. He can do everything he is already doing without the roster spot.
Or maybe they want to wait and see for trade deadline and want the flexibility of his roster spot. |
No he can't, he can't be a player without a roster spot. |
? I'm saying maybe they're keeping him rather than getting a young guy with upside because in the event of a trade or other acquistion, he is the easy cut. |
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ringfinger Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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Halflife wrote: | ringfinger wrote: | Just don't get the MWp thing. He can do everything he is already doing without the roster spot.
Or maybe they want to wait and see for trade deadline and want the flexibility of his roster spot. |
Luke was pretty clear last night. He wants mwp around team. Every team in league has a guy that is basically a warm body. He at least has some roi by helping our young guys. |
Why does MWP need a roster spot to be around the team? He can be an asst coach or something. Do everything he is doing now. And we use the roster spot for someone with upside as opposed to someone who purposely fouls in garbage time to mess with the home crowd. |
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adkindo Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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ringfinger wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | ringfinger wrote: | Just don't get the MWp thing. He can do everything he is already doing without the roster spot.
Or maybe they want to wait and see for trade deadline and want the flexibility of his roster spot. |
No he can't, he can't be a player without a roster spot. |
? I'm saying maybe they're keeping him rather than getting a young guy with upside because in the event of a trade or other acquistion, he is the easy cut. |
I dont know, still think there is a chance the whole reason MWP made the roster is because nobody had the stones to tell him he was cut. Now that I am thinking about it....maybe that is how TRob made it also. They made a translator tell Yi and nobody feared AB. |
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Mike@LG Moderator
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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adkindo wrote: | danzag wrote: | governator wrote: | T-Rob allows us to trade T-Black |
Tarik is much better than Thomas. |
based on what? They are extremely close in my opinion. |
Ability to catch
Ability to finish
Halfcourt shotblocking
Transition shotblocking
Free throw shooting
Screen setting
Passing _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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tox Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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Mike@LG wrote: | adkindo wrote: | danzag wrote: | governator wrote: | T-Rob allows us to trade T-Black |
Tarik is much better than Thomas. |
based on what? They are extremely close in my opinion. |
Ability to catch
Ability to finish
Halfcourt shotblocking
Transition shotblocking
Free throw shooting
Screen setting
Passing |
Hitting rotations |
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Mike@LG Moderator
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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tox wrote: | Mike@LG wrote: | adkindo wrote: | danzag wrote: | governator wrote: | T-Rob allows us to trade T-Black |
Tarik is much better than Thomas. |
based on what? They are extremely close in my opinion. |
Ability to catch
Ability to finish
Halfcourt shotblocking
Transition shotblocking
Free throw shooting
Screen setting
Passing |
Hitting rotations |
Smirks at opponents that want to pick fights. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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ringfinger wrote: | Halflife wrote: | ringfinger wrote: | Just don't get the MWp thing. He can do everything he is already doing without the roster spot.
Or maybe they want to wait and see for trade deadline and want the flexibility of his roster spot. |
Luke was pretty clear last night. He wants mwp around team. Every team in league has a guy that is basically a warm body. He at least has some roi by helping our young guys. |
Why does MWP need a roster spot to be around the team? He can be an asst coach or something. Do everything he is doing now. And we use the roster spot for someone with upside as opposed to someone who purposely fouls in garbage time to mess with the home crowd. |
Players interact differently with other players than they do with coaches. If Ron becomes a coach his relationship with the other players would change. But as you posted before, if someone is worth adding, it will be easy to pay him off. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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tox Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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Mike@LG wrote: | tox wrote: | Mike@LG wrote: | adkindo wrote: | danzag wrote: | governator wrote: | T-Rob allows us to trade T-Black |
Tarik is much better than Thomas. |
based on what? They are extremely close in my opinion. |
Ability to catch
Ability to finish
Halfcourt shotblocking
Transition shotblocking
Free throw shooting
Screen setting
Passing |
Hitting rotations |
Smirks at opponents that want to pick fights. |
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adkindo Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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Mike@LG wrote: | adkindo wrote: | danzag wrote: | governator wrote: | T-Rob allows us to trade T-Black |
Tarik is much better than Thomas. |
based on what? They are extremely close in my opinion. |
Ability to catch
Ability to finish
Halfcourt shotblocking
Transition shotblocking
Free throw shooting
Screen setting
Passing |
I usually just take your word for it, but Tarik has fumbled for than his share of catches....and maybe a stat shows Tarik as a good finisher, but he is absolutely terrible at bringing the ball down and getting it stolen or getting fouled without getting a shot off.
Tarik is better free throw shooter, but he is still a career 59%. On some of these, your just making "tallest little person in the room" arguments. Their basic production stats are near identical, but if you still want to go with extremely, thats up to you. |
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Omar Little Moderator
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 12:44 am Post subject: |
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Tarik is a rotation big. Not a starter, or an elite backup, but a solid one. Robinson is a fringe player. Both hustle hard (slight edge to Robinson on hustle and athleticism), but only one has skill. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel |
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ratra_1211 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 3:28 am Post subject: |
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yeah thomas robinson has been horrible when he had to make decisions with the ball and really bad on defense (particularly on rotating to help). our second unit often blow leads because we have him instead of nance on defense imo, although its not entirely his fault (talking to you lou). but love his hustle on the boards though. |
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pio2u Retired Number
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LakerLanny Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:28 am Post subject: |
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Mike@LG wrote: |
Smirks at opponents that want to pick fights. |
LOL, he may not be able to play anymore but no one wants any part of him in a scrap still! _________________ Love, Laker Lanny |
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55 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 9:54 am Post subject: |
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Omar Little wrote: | Tarik is a rotation big. Not a starter, or an elite backup, but a solid one. Robinson is a fringe player. Both hustle hard (slight edge to Robinson on hustle and athleticism), but only one has skill. |
I'd be careful using that word around here |
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LuciusAllen Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:12 am Post subject: |
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Mind you, they can still decide to waive MWP, and try to bring him back as a coach, albeit a high-priced one. |
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TooMuchMajicBuss Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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No harm I guess. Provided MWP stays on the bench if the score is close. |
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Mike@LG Moderator
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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adkindo wrote: | Mike@LG wrote: | adkindo wrote: | danzag wrote: | governator wrote: | T-Rob allows us to trade T-Black |
Tarik is much better than Thomas. |
based on what? They are extremely close in my opinion. |
Ability to catch
Ability to finish
Halfcourt shotblocking
Transition shotblocking
Free throw shooting
Screen setting
Passing |
I usually just take your word for it, but Tarik has fumbled for than his share of catches....and maybe a stat shows Tarik as a good finisher, but he is absolutely terrible at bringing the ball down and getting it stolen or getting fouled without getting a shot off.
Tarik is better free throw shooter, but he is still a career 59%. On some of these, your just making "tallest little person in the room" arguments. Their basic production stats are near identical, but if you still want to go with extremely, thats up to you. |
When Tarik fumbles, it's because there's 3 guys in the paint that surround him.
Why do you think Thomas Robinson was a lottery pick that has bounced from team to team?
Big things.
Inability to catch.
Lack of shooting touch, completely lost after Kansas
Erratic decision-making (going full court after a defensive rebound).
He had to turn himself into a role player instead of a David West type, Face up PF that he used to be.
These aren't big things little things. Just because TRob has taken advantage of his current PT, doesn't take away from Black being a better screen setter, finisher, and rim protector than Robinson. Period. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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