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| Best PG in the league? |
| Stephen Curry |
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21% |
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36% |
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3% |
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| Kyrie Irving |
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21% |
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| Damian Lillard |
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3% |
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| Other |
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6% |
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| James Harden |
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9% |
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Andre2K
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| danzag wrote: | | Andre2K wrote: | | 3. Chris Paul GOAT pg after Magic (I said this during the Deron Williams debates, and I'll continue to say it. He's just too good) |
John (bleep) Stockton.
Jason Kidd.
Gary Payton.
Steve Nash. |
John Stockton had Karl Malone. CP3 is better than all the other names you mentioned.
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SuperboyReformed
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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| i cant see cp3 taking magic's spot on showtime. Magic on the clips would be no problem, however. |
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Telleris
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| Mike@LG wrote: | | Quote: |
You're comparing Kyrie playing 2nd option to LeBron to Westbrook doing it all himself.
OKC took GS to 7 games. If KD didn't choke they would have won. How does essentially replacing KD with LeBron and playing a weaker GS team somehow equal GS winning? Did you see how LeBron played against GS vs how KD played? |
No. I'm comparing a guy that once had to carry his team before and didn't go balls out and play out of his mind and still lose games.
OKC took GS to 7 games. Still lost.
GSW was the favorite against the Cavs down 3-1. Kyrie was HUGE winning that championship.
That's not overthinking. I'd even argue that LeBron was the #2 option, not Kyrie, because it was Kyrie doing the scoring, and LeBron doing the facilitating. |
lebron led that series in points, rebounds, assists, blocks and steals. Lebron was doing the everything. I don't even like Lebron that much (don't dislike him either), but it was the most transcendent finals performances i've seen in a long time, maybe ever.
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ClemensBriels
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| Telleris wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | Quote: |
You're comparing Kyrie playing 2nd option to LeBron to Westbrook doing it all himself.
OKC took GS to 7 games. If KD didn't choke they would have won. How does essentially replacing KD with LeBron and playing a weaker GS team somehow equal GS winning? Did you see how LeBron played against GS vs how KD played? |
No. I'm comparing a guy that once had to carry his team before and didn't go balls out and play out of his mind and still lose games.
OKC took GS to 7 games. Still lost.
GSW was the favorite against the Cavs down 3-1. Kyrie was HUGE winning that championship.
That's not overthinking. I'd even argue that LeBron was the #2 option, not Kyrie, because it was Kyrie doing the scoring, and LeBron doing the facilitating. |
lebron led that series in points, rebounds, assists, blocks and steals. Lebron was doing the everything. I don't even like Lebron that much (don't dislike him either), but it was the most transcendent finals performances i've seen in a long time, maybe ever. |
And he averaged way more pts in those last 3 games than Kyrie
I mean Kyrie was absolutely insane, no doubt, but he was not the best player in that series |
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ClemensBriels
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| Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:29 am Post subject: |
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| SuperboyReformed wrote: | | i cant see cp3 taking magic's spot on showtime. Magic on the clips would be no problem, however. |
Oh well can't argue that logic! Oh wait! You didn't apply any at all. |
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ClemensBriels
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| Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:33 am Post subject: |
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| danzag wrote: | | Andre2K wrote: | | 3. Chris Paul GOAT pg after Magic (I said this during the Deron Williams debates, and I'll continue to say it. He's just too good) |
John (bleep) Stockton.
Jason Kidd.
Gary Payton.
Steve Nash. |
...none of these guys are as good as CP3. Stockton is the only one who comes close |
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ClemensBriels
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| Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:34 am Post subject: |
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| Anyone taking Westbrook over Harden should stop watching basketball |
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Mike@LG
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| Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:33 am Post subject: |
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I mean Kyrie was absolutely insane, no doubt, but he was not the best player in that series |
Best player in the series doesn't fit under my description of what the best PG in the league is.
Compared to Harden, I think he's the best finisher, best closer, and best perimeter shooter.
This isn't a numbers contest.
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Mike@LG
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| Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:34 am Post subject: |
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| ClemensBriels wrote: | | SuperboyReformed wrote: | | i cant see cp3 taking magic's spot on showtime. Magic on the clips would be no problem, however. |
Oh well can't argue that logic! Oh wait! You didn't apply any at all. |
Wow, 5 posts in and already with the snarky attacks?
Consider this a warning. Stick to the discussion of basketball and ZERO about ANY poster.
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ClemensBriels
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| Mike@LG wrote: | | Quote: |
I mean Kyrie was absolutely insane, no doubt, but he was not the best player in that series |
Best player in the series doesn't fit under my description of what the best PG in the league is.
Compared to Harden, I think he's the best finisher, best closer, and best perimeter shooter.
This isn't a numbers contest. |
You said he was the #1 option when Bron outscored him/scored as much as him in all three games after going down 3-1 |
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Mike@LG
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| ClemensBriels wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | Quote: |
I mean Kyrie was absolutely insane, no doubt, but he was not the best player in that series |
Best player in the series doesn't fit under my description of what the best PG in the league is.
Compared to Harden, I think he's the best finisher, best closer, and best perimeter shooter.
This isn't a numbers contest. |
You said he was the #1 option when Bron outscored him/scored as much as him in all three games after going down 3-1 |
Missing the argument here.
LeBron went to Kyrie to close games for him. That is #1 option, closer, late in games.
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ClemensBriels
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| Mike@LG wrote: | | ClemensBriels wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | Quote: |
I mean Kyrie was absolutely insane, no doubt, but he was not the best player in that series |
Best player in the series doesn't fit under my description of what the best PG in the league is.
Compared to Harden, I think he's the best finisher, best closer, and best perimeter shooter.
This isn't a numbers contest. |
You said he was the #1 option when Bron outscored him/scored as much as him in all three games after going down 3-1 |
Missing the argument here.
LeBron went to Kyrie to close games for him. That is #1 option, closer, late in games. |
Back against the wall three games in a row against a 73 win team, 36 ppg with a ton of tough shots when the games were close, but not a #1 option, and not a closer. Okay. |
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Looks like I'm the only one who chose Chris Paul. I like his overall game, involving his teammates and ability to take over when necessary. He's a true PG with a fierce competitive nature.When he has to Paul is a great scorer who can finish at the rim.
Look at his career stats. Compare them to those on the OP list. LINK
Harden is listed as a SG.
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ClemensBriels
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| Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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| jodeke wrote: | Looks like I'm the only one who chose Chris Paul. I like his overall game, involving his teammates and ability to take over when necessary. He's a true PG with a fierce competitive nature.When he has to Paul is a great scorer who can finish at the rim.
Look at his career stats. Compare them to those on the OP list. LINK
Harden is listed as a SG. |
CP3 is the best PG if Harden is an SG. He's clearly a better player than Steph or Westbrook to me... and Kyrie, even though I'm a huge fan of his. |
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