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Since the return of Embiid and Noel moved into the rotation playing time for Okafor has really dwindled. I think Phily will trade him before the February 23 Trade Deadline (3 p.m. ET). I don't know if they'll want to take on his salary, it'll be guaranteed. I think he'd be a deal at $4,788,840. I don't know how much the Lakers would be liable for.
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Lakers offer Huertas, Young or Chalderon, plus a second round pick, plus remove the Top-3 protection of this years draft pick.
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| unleasHell wrote: | | Lakers offer Huertas, Young or Chalderon, plus a second round pick, plus remove the Top-3 protection of this years draft pick. |
I'd go with Huertas and Chalderon. I like Nicks play so far this season. He's sometimes been a igniter. Second rounder sounds doable. Remove Top-3 is stretching.
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| jodeke wrote: | | unleasHell wrote: | | Lakers offer Huertas, Young or Chalderon, plus a second round pick, plus remove the Top-3 protection of this years draft pick. |
I'd go with Huertas and Chalderon. I like Nicks play so far this season. He's sometimes been a igniter. Second rounder sounds doable. Remove Top-3 is stretching. |
I like Young too, but you have to dangle something of value to them, after all Okafer was the 3rd pick in the draft.
Huertas + a 2nd pick is actually an insult, Calderon is not really needed here, but has an expiring contract. Young has played great, but Clarkson can move back into the starting line-up, leaving Lou off the bench.
Also, the Lakers "owe" that pick and are gonna lose it sooner or later anyway, so removing the protection is a nice incentive for Philly, who can probably get more for Okafor from a dozen other teams...
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| unleasHell wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | unleasHell wrote: | | Lakers offer Huertas, Young or Chalderon, plus a second round pick, plus remove the Top-3 protection of this years draft pick. |
I'd go with Huertas and Chalderon. I like Nicks play so far this season. He's sometimes been a igniter. Second rounder sounds doable. Remove Top-3 is stretching. |
I like Young too, but you have to dangle something of value to them, after all Okafer was the 3rd pick in the draft.
Huertas + a 2nd pick is actually an insult, Calderon is not really needed here, but has an expiring contract. Young has played great, but Clarkson can move back into the starting line-up, leaving Lou off the bench.
Also, the Lakers "owe" that pick and are gonna lose it sooner or later anyway, so removing the protection is a nice incentive for Philly, who can probably get more for Okafor from a dozen other teams... |
Why not make the carrot Clarkson? He's so inconsistent and loves ISO.
I bet they'd bite on Sweet Lou. I don't think the FO is that inept, though how they've handled this season it wouldn't surprise me.
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| unleasHell wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | unleasHell wrote: | | Lakers offer Huertas, Young or Chalderon, plus a second round pick, plus remove the Top-3 protection of this years draft pick. |
I'd go with Huertas and Chalderon. I like Nicks play so far this season. He's sometimes been a igniter. Second rounder sounds doable. Remove Top-3 is stretching. |
I like Young too, but you have to dangle something of value to them, after all Okafer was the 3rd pick in the draft.
Huertas + a 2nd pick is actually an insult, Calderon is not really needed here, but has an expiring contract. Young has played great, but Clarkson can move back into the starting line-up, leaving Lou off the bench.
Also, the Lakers "owe" that pick and are gonna lose it sooner or later anyway, so removing the protection is a nice incentive for Philly, who can probably get more for Okafor from a dozen other teams... |
Okafor is a 3rd pick in the draft whose team has been better when he doesn't play. He doesn't address any of our weaknesses. Calderon's ending contract would be about as far as I would go. Maybe try to get involved in a 3-way where someone else gets Okafor and we get another piece. JO isn't a bad player by any means, he just isn't a good fit in today's game. As a scoring big off the bench he might be a good fit, though.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | unleasHell wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | unleasHell wrote: | | Lakers offer Huertas, Young or Chalderon, plus a second round pick, plus remove the Top-3 protection of this years draft pick. |
I'd go with Huertas and Chalderon. I like Nicks play so far this season. He's sometimes been a igniter. Second rounder sounds doable. Remove Top-3 is stretching. |
I like Young too, but you have to dangle something of value to them, after all Okafer was the 3rd pick in the draft.
Huertas + a 2nd pick is actually an insult, Calderon is not really needed here, but has an expiring contract. Young has played great, but Clarkson can move back into the starting line-up, leaving Lou off the bench.
Also, the Lakers "owe" that pick and are gonna lose it sooner or later anyway, so removing the protection is a nice incentive for Philly, who can probably get more for Okafor from a dozen other teams... |
Okafor is a 3rd pick in the draft whose team has been better when he doesn't play. He doesn't address any of our weaknesses. Calderon's ending contract would be about as far as I would go. Maybe try to get involved in a 3-way where someone else gets Okafor and we get another piece. JO isn't a bad player by any means, he just isn't a good fit in today's game. As a scoring big off the bench he might be a good fit, though. |
I wanted Okafor instead of DLO. I'm of the school that builds from the front court out. Golden State is one in a million. They're making it a small mans game. I believe it will evolve back to a big mans game. Not as exciting but I think a proven winning commodity.
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| IF we could get him for something like Huertas, and removing the top 3 protection on our pick, then I'd be all for it. |
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| jodeke wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | unleasHell wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | unleasHell wrote: | | Lakers offer Huertas, Young or Chalderon, plus a second round pick, plus remove the Top-3 protection of this years draft pick. |
I'd go with Huertas and Chalderon. I like Nicks play so far this season. He's sometimes been a igniter. Second rounder sounds doable. Remove Top-3 is stretching. |
I like Young too, but you have to dangle something of value to them, after all Okafer was the 3rd pick in the draft.
Huertas + a 2nd pick is actually an insult, Calderon is not really needed here, but has an expiring contract. Young has played great, but Clarkson can move back into the starting line-up, leaving Lou off the bench.
Also, the Lakers "owe" that pick and are gonna lose it sooner or later anyway, so removing the protection is a nice incentive for Philly, who can probably get more for Okafor from a dozen other teams... |
Okafor is a 3rd pick in the draft whose team has been better when he doesn't play. He doesn't address any of our weaknesses. Calderon's ending contract would be about as far as I would go. Maybe try to get involved in a 3-way where someone else gets Okafor and we get another piece. JO isn't a bad player by any means, he just isn't a good fit in today's game. As a scoring big off the bench he might be a good fit, though. |
I wanted Okafor instead of DLO. I'm of the school that builds from the front court out. Golden State is one in a million. They're making it a small mans game. I believe it will evolve back to a big mans game. Not as exciting but I think a proven winning commodity. |
I'm of the school that builds from talent.
Okafor is OK. He'll get you a lot of point, but he won't rebound or defend well. On the right team, he could be an OK piece, but I don't see him being a key piece to a good team.
I think Okafor and Randle would be terrible -- might as well not even bother to run back and play defense.
if we got him for cheap, he'll improve us, but I question whether it will lead to significant longterm improvement. But, sure, I'd take him for a bargain price.
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Why does that exasperate you?
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| jodeke wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | Quote: |
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Because you don't like that Clarkson is inconsistent and is too much of an ISO player and your solution is Jahlil Okafor.
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| Cochese wrote: | | I want nothing to do with Okafor. |
You have this in common with the Sixers.
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| ocho wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | Quote: |
Why not make the carrot Clarkson? He's so inconsistent and loves ISO.
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Why does that exasperate you? |
Because you don't like that Clarkson is inconsistent and is too much of an ISO player and your solution is Jahlil Okafor. |
Where did I say Okafor is a solution. I said I'm of the school who likes building from the front court out. You're saying I think he's a solution, not me. I said Clarkson was a trade piece to dangle.
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| jodeke wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | Quote: |
Why not make the carrot Clarkson? He's so inconsistent and loves ISO.
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Why does that exasperate you? |
Because you don't like that Clarkson is inconsistent and is too much of an ISO player and your solution is Jahlil Okafor. |
Where did I say Okafor is a solution. I said I'm of the school who likes building from the front court out. You're saying I think he's a solution, not me. I said Clarkson was a trade piece. |
If you want to trade a piece because of certain negative attributes, it's probably unwise to trade them for a player that is even worse at the same attributes.
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| ocho wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | Quote: |
Why not make the carrot Clarkson? He's so inconsistent and loves ISO.
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Why does that exasperate you? |
Because you don't like that Clarkson is inconsistent and is too much of an ISO player and your solution is Jahlil Okafor. |
Where did I say Okafor is a solution. I said I'm of the school who likes building from the front court out. You're saying I think he's a solution, not me. I said Clarkson was a trade piece. |
If you want to trade a piece because of certain negative attributes, it's probably unwise to trade them for a player that is even worse at the same attributes. |
Well let me be specific. I don't like Clarkson's game. His selfishness is more a detriment than a asset in my eyes. I've seen on more than one occasion I thought he should have passed instead of playing ISO. I've also seen what I consider poor 3pt shot selection.
I don't post a lot in the game thread because I read so much negativity, I lurk. My dislike is not mine alone on the points I mentioned. | Quote: | | pathetic jsut pathetic. |
| Quote: | Clarkson taking the worst shots in the league again. Swing the ball, find the open man and it will work out in the end.
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He needs to be benched until he swings the ball. Completely unacceptable.
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| Quote: | Clarkson no effort on defense can't stay with his men.
Randle the same undersized as well. |
| Quote: | Tarik, Trob, Clarkson probably some of the stupidest basketball players ive ever watched
This is the biggest problem i see as well. IQ is just so bad. Specially Clarkson he is so stupid. |
Just a few of many posts about Clarkson's play. My mention of Clarkson as a trade piece was a reply to unleasHell's trade choices
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| activeverb wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | unleasHell wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | unleasHell wrote: | | Lakers offer Huertas, Young or Chalderon, plus a second round pick, plus remove the Top-3 protection of this years draft pick. |
I'd go with Huertas and Chalderon. I like Nicks play so far this season. He's sometimes been a igniter. Second rounder sounds doable. Remove Top-3 is stretching. |
I like Young too, but you have to dangle something of value to them, after all Okafer was the 3rd pick in the draft.
Huertas + a 2nd pick is actually an insult, Calderon is not really needed here, but has an expiring contract. Young has played great, but Clarkson can move back into the starting line-up, leaving Lou off the bench.
Also, the Lakers "owe" that pick and are gonna lose it sooner or later anyway, so removing the protection is a nice incentive for Philly, who can probably get more for Okafor from a dozen other teams... |
Okafor is a 3rd pick in the draft whose team has been better when he doesn't play. He doesn't address any of our weaknesses. Calderon's ending contract would be about as far as I would go. Maybe try to get involved in a 3-way where someone else gets Okafor and we get another piece. JO isn't a bad player by any means, he just isn't a good fit in today's game. As a scoring big off the bench he might be a good fit, though. |
I wanted Okafor instead of DLO. I'm of the school that builds from the front court out. Golden State is one in a million. They're making it a small mans game. I believe it will evolve back to a big mans game. Not as exciting but I think a proven winning commodity. |
I'm of the school that builds from talent.
Okafor is OK. He'll get you a lot of point, but he won't rebound or defend well. On the right team, he could be an OK piece, but I don't see him being a key piece to a good team.
I think Okafor and Randle would be terrible -- might as well not even bother to run back and play defense.
if we got him for cheap, he'll improve us, but I question whether it will lead to significant longterm improvement. But, sure, I'd take him for a bargain price. |
Of course talent is priority. I don't think Okafor is playing to his true potential. I don't think he wants to play in Philly. It was rumored he wanted to be a Laker.
His not playing to his potential doesn't speak well of his professionalism. I believe we'd see different Jahlil. Also his age is a plus.
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They went 5-1 with him gathering DNP's. They started him today. He put up the gaudy stats.
Guess what? Got their asses kicked by the Wizards today.
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Guess what? Got their asses kicked by the Wizards today. |
Showcasing him for trade leverage ... ? I admit, I'm not following his journey that closely any more, but those DNPs must be exasperating for a 21 year old. |
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| jodeke wrote: | | activeverb wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | unleasHell wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | unleasHell wrote: | | Lakers offer Huertas, Young or Chalderon, plus a second round pick, plus remove the Top-3 protection of this years draft pick. |
I'd go with Huertas and Chalderon. I like Nicks play so far this season. He's sometimes been a igniter. Second rounder sounds doable. Remove Top-3 is stretching. |
I like Young too, but you have to dangle something of value to them, after all Okafer was the 3rd pick in the draft.
Huertas + a 2nd pick is actually an insult, Calderon is not really needed here, but has an expiring contract. Young has played great, but Clarkson can move back into the starting line-up, leaving Lou off the bench.
Also, the Lakers "owe" that pick and are gonna lose it sooner or later anyway, so removing the protection is a nice incentive for Philly, who can probably get more for Okafor from a dozen other teams... |
Okafor is a 3rd pick in the draft whose team has been better when he doesn't play. He doesn't address any of our weaknesses. Calderon's ending contract would be about as far as I would go. Maybe try to get involved in a 3-way where someone else gets Okafor and we get another piece. JO isn't a bad player by any means, he just isn't a good fit in today's game. As a scoring big off the bench he might be a good fit, though. |
I wanted Okafor instead of DLO. I'm of the school that builds from the front court out. Golden State is one in a million. They're making it a small mans game. I believe it will evolve back to a big mans game. Not as exciting but I think a proven winning commodity. |
I'm of the school that builds from talent.
Okafor is OK. He'll get you a lot of point, but he won't rebound or defend well. On the right team, he could be an OK piece, but I don't see him being a key piece to a good team.
I think Okafor and Randle would be terrible -- might as well not even bother to run back and play defense.
if we got him for cheap, he'll improve us, but I question whether it will lead to significant longterm improvement. But, sure, I'd take him for a bargain price. |
Of course talent is priority. I don't think Okafor is playing to his true potential. I don't think he wants to play in Philly. It was rumored he wanted to be a Laker.
His not playing to his potential doesn't speak well of his professionalism. I believe we'd see different Jahlil. Also his age is a plus. |
Okafor is what he is. I see him easily becoming an 18-9 guy, who plays below average defense, on a team that will be average at best. And he'll make $15+ million doing it. To me, he's not a guy you build around; he's a guy you settle for. |
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Yeah, people will see "He got 26 points and 9 boards, shot over 50% fromt he field..."
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That's how he plays when he gets the minutes. He played 35 tonight. I imagine it's frustrating and hard to get a rhythm not knowing if you're going to play or not.
How many good defensive C are in the league today?
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| jodeke wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | Yeah, people will see "He got 26 points and 9 boards, shot over 50% fromt he field..." |
That's how he plays when he gets the minutes. He played 35 tonight. I imagine it's frustrating and hard to get a rhythm not knowing if you're going to play or not.
How many good defensive C are in the league today? |
Better question. How many Cs help facilitate a better offense today?
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| Mike@LG wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | Yeah, people will see "He got 26 points and 9 boards, shot over 50% fromt he field..." |
That's how he plays when he gets the minutes. He played 35 tonight. I imagine it's frustrating and hard to get a rhythm not knowing if you're going to play or not.
How many good defensive C are in the league today? |
Better question. How many Cs help facilitate a better offense today? |
There are no more Bill Walton's. Today's game is all about me. Everybody want to score. That's what makes GS so hard to beat, they're very unselfish.
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