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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:09 pm    Post subject:

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I think Zubac has earned a start, tell Moz to take a night off...maybe 2....dude was super impressive tonight.
agreed. Definitely deserves a start or two imo. If he doesn't fall flat on his face, start him for the remainder of the season.


Yep, entirely possible that BI and Zubac are starting next year and the true cornerstones of this franchise. I'm not saying trade DLO or Randle, but if Boogie or Butler is available for say DLO/Randle/lou I might make a move at this point.

All 3 of those guys are good to great offensively...but man, you can't win games in this league without defense and non of those guys play any.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:09 pm    Post subject:

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Zubac and Ingram showed fire tonight, they both played well, but more importantly gave great effort. Same can't be said for the other young guys.


Those 2 are encouraging, on other hand, Russell and randle better find out what they want to be in this league.
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Lou, Swaggy and JC combined for over half of the teams points, combined 47% FG......that is not chucking...thats preventing embarrassment



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:10 pm    Post subject:

Luke is really excited post-game tonight.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:12 pm    Post subject:

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Luke is really excited post-game tonight.


He needs to start calling people out. Our individual effort on defense is just downright pathetic.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:12 pm    Post subject:

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Luke is really excited post-game tonight.


Moral victory
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:12 pm    Post subject:

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it is weird how Okafor gets killed for his lack of defense, and Jokic is an absolute joke on defense, and everyone just overlooks it



Because even on offense, Okafor on the floor is horrific for Philly despite his gaudy numbers when he gets touches. Combine that with atrocious rebounding and unfortunately Okafor literally brings nothing to the table but a post game.


The same can't be said for Jokic.


ok, but he is still very very poor @ 50% of the game


His DRPM is actually 16th out of 93 PF's.

Okafor is 2nd to last.


not claiming anything compared to Okafor, except that both are bad defenders...they both play Center....why are you comparing them to PF's
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:13 pm    Post subject:

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Luke is really excited post-game tonight.


He needs to start calling people out. Our individual effort on defense is just downright pathetic.


He's talking about effort and giving minutes to guys who are earning it, to be fair. He's excited that the team fought back and found some energy.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:14 pm    Post subject:

Early in the season, Luke said he'd start who ever earned it.

Start: Zu, Black (nance), Ingram, Young, and ???
Or, alternatively: Zu, Black (Nance), Deng, Young, Ingram

if he starts sitting some people that aren't trying very hard, it might light a fire under their azzes

and it's not like there's much to lose at this point
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:15 pm    Post subject:

justsomelakerfan wrote:
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Luke is really excited post-game tonight.


He needs to start calling people out. Our individual effort on defense is just downright pathetic.


He's talking about effort and giving minutes to guys who are earning it, to be fair. He's excited that the team fought back and found some energy.


I don't mind him pointing out the positives as long as he addresses the negative as well.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:17 pm    Post subject:

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Early in the season, Luke said he'd start who ever earned it.

Start: Zu, Black (nance), Ingram, Young, and LW
Or, alternatively: Zu, Black (Nance), Deng, Young, Ingram

if he starts sitting some people that aren't trying very hard, it might light a fire under their azzes

and it's not like there's much to lose at this point


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:18 pm    Post subject:

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Early in the season, Luke said he'd start who ever earned it.

Start: Zu, Black (nance), Ingram, Young, and ???
Or, alternatively: Zu, Black (Nance), Deng, Young, Ingram

if he starts sitting some people that aren't trying very hard, it might light a fire under their azzes

and it's not like there's much to lose at this point


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Lou's a possibility...there's been a few times this season when Luke asked him to act as the PG, and he did pretty well reigning in the shots and distributing when he was asked to do that

one thing is for sure - you'd get about 200% more effort on D (Lou would try..he might not do well, but he'd give effort)
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:19 pm    Post subject:

P.K. wrote:
pio2u wrote:
P.K. wrote:
Early in the season, Luke said he'd start who ever earned it.

Start: Zu, Black (nance), Ingram, Young, and ???
Or, alternatively: Zu, Black (Nance), Deng, Young, Ingram

if he starts sitting some people that aren't trying very hard, it might light a fire under their azzes

and it's not like there's much to lose at this point


LOU WILLIAMS

Lou's a possibility...there's been a few times this season when Luke asked him to act as the PG, and he did pretty well reigning in the shots and distributing when he was asked to do that
Ingram can handle the rock too.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:20 pm    Post subject:

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justsomelakerfan wrote:
Luke is really excited post-game tonight.


Moral victory


It's the suited connectors phenomenon in poker. If you look at enough (bleep) hands in a row, suited connectors or one gappers start looking like pocket aces. We've had a lot of (bleep) games. Luke is grasping to whatever straws he can right now.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:20 pm    Post subject:

the sun will come up tomorrow....DLo and Randle will bounce back...the process moves forward.....the progress continues
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:20 pm    Post subject:

Fisher's now calling the starters (we know who he means) basically jaded.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:20 pm    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
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adkindo wrote:
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it is weird how Okafor gets killed for his lack of defense, and Jokic is an absolute joke on defense, and everyone just overlooks it



Because even on offense, Okafor on the floor is horrific for Philly despite his gaudy numbers when he gets touches. Combine that with atrocious rebounding and unfortunately Okafor literally brings nothing to the table but a post game.


The same can't be said for Jokic.


ok, but he is still very very poor @ 50% of the game


His DRPM is actually 16th out of 93 PF's.

Okafor is 2nd to last.


not claiming anything compared to Okafor, except that both are bad defenders...they both play Center....why are you comparing them to PF's


Okafor is 2nd to last among centers.

Jokic is listed at power forward and ESPN's drpm rankings have him listed with the power forward.

In any event, he's not nearly the sieve being painted.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:21 pm    Post subject:

pio2u wrote:
P.K. wrote:
pio2u wrote:
P.K. wrote:
Early in the season, Luke said he'd start who ever earned it.

Start: Zu, Black (nance), Ingram, Young, and ???
Or, alternatively: Zu, Black (Nance), Deng, Young, Ingram

if he starts sitting some people that aren't trying very hard, it might light a fire under their azzes

and it's not like there's much to lose at this point


LOU WILLIAMS

Lou's a possibility...there's been a few times this season when Luke asked him to act as the PG, and he did pretty well reigning in the shots and distributing when he was asked to do that
Ingram can handle the rock too.

Yeah, Ingram can
My point was more on the side of needing Lou to be a little more selective in that scenario
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:21 pm    Post subject:

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Fisher's now calling the starters (we know who he means) basically jaded.


I'm not following. Who do you think he means? (serious question)
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:23 pm    Post subject:

So I went to the game and... Yeah...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:23 pm    Post subject:

P.K. wrote:
pio2u wrote:
P.K. wrote:
pio2u wrote:
P.K. wrote:
Early in the season, Luke said he'd start who ever earned it.

Start: Zu, Black (nance), Ingram, Young, and ???
Or, alternatively: Zu, Black (Nance), Deng, Young, Ingram

if he starts sitting some people that aren't trying very hard, it might light a fire under their azzes

and it's not like there's much to lose at this point


LOU WILLIAMS

Lou's a possibility...there's been a few times this season when Luke asked him to act as the PG, and he did pretty well reigning in the shots and distributing when he was asked to do that
Ingram can handle the rock too.

Yeah, Ingram can
My point was more on the side of needing Lou to be a little more selective
tru dat.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:24 pm    Post subject:

This team has competed in about 30 games out of 45 games they played, that tells you that the team needs a star for the team to take the next step.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:24 pm    Post subject:

"WE'LL BE BACK" (eventually)
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:26 pm    Post subject:

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This team has competed in about 30 games out of 45 games they played, that tells you that the team needs a star for the team to take the next step.


Or 30 games the other team played down to the lakers level untill they needed to win.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:27 pm    Post subject:

STARTERS - 53 POINTS

BENCH - 68 POINTS
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