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BigGameHames
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | It's sad that a great like WB will basically waste 2-3 years of his prime and grind himself down on an OKC team that is at best a 5th seed in the WC. |
I don't think the Thunder are as far from a contender as most. 3 really good young bigs who all bring different skill sets along with Westbrook. I think they need to move Oladipo though. Too repetitive next to Westbrook. They need some 3/D wings to put next to Westbrook if they want to have success. Young could be a guy they're interested in, he showed an ability to be a decent defender and elite spot up shooter when interested this year. Not that he makes them a contender but that's a start. A Klay Thompson type player would do wonders for them. I would've asked for Fournier instead of Oladipo if I was them. |
They're not beating the Warriors/Spurs/Rox, and Clips (if healthy). |
I can see them beating the Rockets or Clippers this year. We'll see how their young bigs develop and if they acquire some wings who can shoot. If they do, I can see them becoming a legit contender. |
They have so many spacing issues that will be absolutely exploited in the playoffs. |
This post makes me question if you read what I said. I know, THEY NEED SHOOTERS. The Clippers and Rockets are very beatable IMO even this year. |
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LakerFan1977
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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| BigGameHames wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | It's sad that a great like WB will basically waste 2-3 years of his prime and grind himself down on an OKC team that is at best a 5th seed in the WC. |
I don't think the Thunder are as far from a contender as most. 3 really good young bigs who all bring different skill sets along with Westbrook. I think they need to move Oladipo though. Too repetitive next to Westbrook. They need some 3/D wings to put next to Westbrook if they want to have success. Young could be a guy they're interested in, he showed an ability to be a decent defender and elite spot up shooter when interested this year. Not that he makes them a contender but that's a start. A Klay Thompson type player would do wonders for them. I would've asked for Fournier instead of Oladipo if I was them. |
They're not beating the Warriors/Spurs/Rox, and Clips (if healthy). |
I can see them beating the Rockets or Clippers this year. We'll see how their young bigs develop and if they acquire some wings who can shoot. If they do, I can see them becoming a legit contender. |
They have so many spacing issues that will be absolutely exploited in the playoffs. |
This post makes me question if you read what I said. I know, THEY NEED SHOOTERS. The Clippers and Rockets are very beatable IMO even this year. |
I think fans have been generally sacarstic about the prospects of new superstars coming to Hollywood, the reality is we will get more soon, and its highly likely one of them will be a top 5 player
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| MJST wrote: | First off people that wanna bash Cousins for his attitude need to remind themselves at one thing.
Remember Kobe Bryant in 2007 BEFORE Bynum broke out and we also got Gasol?
Yeah that was Kobe after 2 seasons being an 7th-8th seed and 1 season not making the playoffs.
IMAGINE if Kobe had to deal with the kind of environment the Kings have had since his rookie season. Cousins would look like Buddha in comparison.
The reason that Cousins gets come down upon for that 'attitude' is because the team isn't winning. But throw Durant on the Kings, they still won't make the playoffs.
Like I said, people talk about CJ McCollum and Damian Lillard and the great coaching of Terry Stotts but Cousins has near managed to duplicate what they've done this season in terms of team success.
People get so desperate to go "oh well look at their record without Rudy Gay!"
Thanks for basically saying "Don't give Cousins even a Tier 3 Player and watch how his team fails! lol cause he fails!!"
Right....
Like I said, put Cousins on the Trailblazers as a rookie with LaMarcus Aldridge, and then CJ McCollum a few years later and a coach like Terry Stotts and watch what happens and how he's perceived as that team wins and makes the playoffs every year.
Now put Lillard on the Sacramento Kings his rookie year and watch what happened to Tyreke Evans happen to him, and then watch how HE gets perceived.
So again, people blame Cousins for being in one of the worst organizations in the NBA and having a problem with the fact that the team not only isn't winning but isn't giving him any suitable talent.
They HAD Isaiah Thomas, they traded him for peanuts. They HAD a coach that had pulled it together in Mike Malone, but fired him cause the team lost while Cousins was out with injury. The best 2nd option that the Kings ever have him was Rudy Gay, and ask Memphis or Toronto how well they do when Rudy Gay is their main option. In fact LOOK at how much better the Raptors got once Gay left, and LOOK how much better Memphis got when Gay left.
That is the BEST 2nd option Sacramento has ever given Cousins yet you think that he primarily is the reason why he couldn't make the playoffs in the Western Conference!?!?
Kevin freaking Love never made the playoffs in the Western Conference but that never stopped Lakers fans from clamoring over him and just envisioning the day he wore purple and gold to the point it became an obsession to a forgone conclusion for a few. So why is Cousins who is LEGITIMATELY the best center in the game, as opposed to Love whom people convinced themselves he was despite the fact it was obviously Lamarcus Aldridge and Chris Bosh.
Is it because Love didn't cause drama or complain about losing? But he did.. and whenever he didn't say anything, fans looked for him to pout JUST ONCE to say that he really wants to be a Laker. But with Cousins it's different and with Cousins it's microanalyzing every little thing he does and saying he shouldn't be here.
If the Lakers have a shot at landing Cousins in free agency YOU DO IT, end of story. |
Which we won't have a chance, and I'll give you $200 million reasons why that he'll never leave the Kings. |
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LakerFan1977
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| Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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200 million to not make the playoffs? Why not 100 million and multiple championships
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| BigGameHames wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | It's sad that a great like WB will basically waste 2-3 years of his prime and grind himself down on an OKC team that is at best a 5th seed in the WC. |
I don't think the Thunder are as far from a contender as most. 3 really good young bigs who all bring different skill sets along with Westbrook. I think they need to move Oladipo though. Too repetitive next to Westbrook. They need some 3/D wings to put next to Westbrook if they want to have success. Young could be a guy they're interested in, he showed an ability to be a decent defender and elite spot up shooter when interested this year. Not that he makes them a contender but that's a start. A Klay Thompson type player would do wonders for them. I would've asked for Fournier instead of Oladipo if I was them. |
They(OKC) would in all likelihood be better than the Rockets if they had shooters. Their bigs really make the difference.
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Shaolin's Finest
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| Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerFan1977 wrote: | | 200 million to not make the playoffs? Why not 100 million and multiple championships |
If championships are that big of a deal there are much better options out there than the Lakers |
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| Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | It's sad that a great like WB will basically waste 2-3 years of his prime and grind himself down on an OKC team that is at best a 5th seed in the WC. |
If they sign Paul George in 2018. They'll be a contender.
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To obtain Westbrook and Cousins in 2018 ?
It would require a sea change in our club beforehand, which won't happen - luckily for us. |
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