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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 6:50 pm    Post subject:

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Wow. Jarrad Davis over Foster. Dolphins up. Another strong possibility for Foster. The Raiders would HAVE to take Foster if he makes it to 24. I mocked Davis to them and Foster is definitely better than him.


I like Foster over Davis also....but dont sleep on Davis.....guy is a straight up stud in the middle.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 6:52 pm    Post subject:

Foster should go to the Raiders, right?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 6:54 pm    Post subject:

Oakland can't pass up Foster. Hope the Dolphins can snag a good safety or guard in the 2nd.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:00 pm    Post subject:

Wow. Conley to da Raidahhhhs! I'll say this: if dude is totally innocent, he's very good value here. CB was as big of a need as LB for them. Apparently Conley was given a lie detector test by a team (possibly the Ravens) and he passed it. The Raiders must be totally confident he's not going to suffer any legal issues.

I'll give Reggie McKenzie the benefit of the doubt here, for now.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:02 pm    Post subject:

Foster may slip to GB or Pittsburgh
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:09 pm    Post subject:

There's my UCLA guy, Takk McKinley going at #26! They needed a pass rusher and McKinley's tape was awesome from this past season.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:12 pm    Post subject:

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There's my UCLA guy, Takk McKinley going at #26! They needed a pass rusher and McKinley's tape was awesome from this past season.


I didn't know they still played football @ UCLA....(I kid, I kid)
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:33 pm    Post subject:

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Well, I did mention that the Chiefs and Texans would likely have to trade up for Mahomes and Watson, respectively, and that's exactly what has happened. Bold moves by each, and an especially necessary one for the Texans. They could not go into the season with Tom Savage.


That was a damned impressive call, Stu. Damned impressive.

I can't say that I'm thrilled that we traded up for Watson. O'Brien is going to need to do a lot of work on him, given his penchant for passing to the other team. Still, after the Osweiler fiasco, I guess we needed to roll the dice.

On the other hand, if Cleveland was willing to trade away the pick that could have been used to draft him, there's an excellent chance that Watson will be a Hall of Famer. Heck, we gave them Osweiler, too.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:38 pm    Post subject:

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Well, I did mention that the Chiefs and Texans would likely have to trade up for Mahomes and Watson, respectively, and that's exactly what has happened. Bold moves by each, and an especially necessary one for the Texans. They could not go into the season with Tom Savage.


That was a damned impressive call, Stu. Damned impressive.

I can't say that I'm thrilled that we traded up for Watson. O'Brien is going to need to do a lot of work on him, given his penchant for passing to the other team. Still, after the Osweiler fiasco, I guess we needed to roll the dice.

On the other hand, if Cleveland was willing to trade away the pick that could have been used to draft him, there's an excellent chance that Watson will be a Hall of Famer. Heck, we gave them Osweiler, too.


If I was a Texan fan, I think I would be pleased with the move.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:39 pm    Post subject:

SF has to take Foster?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:42 pm    Post subject:

freakin steal by San Fran with Foster @ #31
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:43 pm    Post subject:

Saints need to stick with defense.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:44 pm    Post subject:

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Saints need to stick with defense.


think they would have taken Foster if he was there
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:46 pm    Post subject:

I won't complain about an OL.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:51 pm    Post subject:

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I won't complain about an OL.


wonder why they didn't take that Lamp kid from Western KY that everyone thought would be a 1st Rounder.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:58 pm    Post subject:

Aeneas Hunter wrote:
ChickenStu wrote:
Well, I did mention that the Chiefs and Texans would likely have to trade up for Mahomes and Watson, respectively, and that's exactly what has happened. Bold moves by each, and an especially necessary one for the Texans. They could not go into the season with Tom Savage.


That was a damned impressive call, Stu. Damned impressive.

I can't say that I'm thrilled that we traded up for Watson. O'Brien is going to need to do a lot of work on him, given his penchant for passing to the other team. Still, after the Osweiler fiasco, I guess we needed to roll the dice.

On the other hand, if Cleveland was willing to trade away the pick that could have been used to draft him, there's an excellent chance that Watson will be a Hall of Famer. Heck, we gave them Osweiler, too.


Watson is clutch. The Texans got a winner in him.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:05 pm    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
I won't complain about an OL.


wonder why they didn't take that Lamp kid from Western KY that everyone thought would be a 1st Rounder.


Ramczyk's upside is as high as anyone's in the class, although I preferred Lamp too. But Ramczyk could be very good, so I am not going to quibble with it too much.

Thanks, AH. I try. LOL. As for the INT thing with Watson, remember that Jameis Winston had an INT problem in his 2nd season at FSU. I think that could be a function of being so good and knowing each guy had such a great college team that they felt they could risk certain plays, knowing that if they did turn the ball over, they could likely come back from it. I don't think Winston has played reckless in the NFL at all, though he has that gunslinger quality at times. I think Bill O'Brien really appreciates Watson's competitiveness and incredible leadership qualities, as well as his moxie in the clutch. He made Brian Hoyer look like an average NFL starting QB, and Watson has so many more tools to work with. I know that people were speculating that O'Brien would like Mahomes because of the big arm, but I think Watson is far more ready to play now, and the Texans have a ready-made playoff team. And Watson could be better than Mahomes in the long run, anyway. I just like the fit and think it was a bold move that they had to make, and I applaud them for doing it.

Foster was a nice move for the Niners at 31, and I really love the opening salvo by John Lynch and company. They came away with Solomon Thomas and Foster in Round 1, two legit top-7 talents IMO. They gave up their 4th rounder to get Foster, but they picked up all those Bears picks to get Thomas, so it's a net positive in terms of picks accumulated, AND they got two real talents to help their defense. Adding talent and stockpiling. Couldn't have drawn it up much better if you're a rebuilding team.

Watch out for Joe Mixon when the Packers pick early in the 2nd, or perhaps Dalvin Cook; but I've heard rumblings that the Packers are enamored with Mixon.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:20 pm    Post subject:

I ended up getting 28 of the 32 1st rounders correctly, if not in the exact order hehe. I didn't write all my stuff for my picks last year, but I did a lot better this year than last.

I'm actually sad that they don't just do the 2nd round after the 1st...I didn't want it to end!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:24 pm    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
freakin steal by San Fran with Foster @ #31


They're concerns about his shoulder injury and that's why he fell so many spots.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:47 pm    Post subject:

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adkindo wrote:
freakin steal by San Fran with Foster @ #31


They're concerns about his shoulder injury and that's why he fell so many spots.


If healthy, the dude is Luke Kuechly-esque.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 1:52 am    Post subject:

Still a lot of good talent available tonight, especially shocked that Dalvin Cook is still there.

Teams that did best last night IMO:

Niners - To trade down, get more picks and still take Thomas who they wanted anyway is an awesome move, but to then use one of those picks to come back up and take Reuben Foster is a great move. Foster might have been the steal of the round. They've added 2 elite defensive prospects and picked up more picks.

Browns - How is it even possible to get Garrett, Peppers, Njoku and a future first rounder from one night's work? High ceiling prospects and a first for next year, they did well and added some great pieces.

Bucs - Never thought OJ would be available for them, good value, and he will be a pro bowl TE in my opinion. Putting him with Evans and DeSean will take their passing game to the next level. Can't believe he fell that far.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 1:55 am    Post subject:

Bummed that I'm not ecstatic over the Cowboys pick. 1st rounders are supposed to fill me with pipedreams... Taco is slow...
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 5:42 am    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
I won't complain about an OL.


wonder why they didn't take that Lamp kid from Western KY that everyone thought would be a 1st Rounder.


Hoping he's still there at #37.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:04 am    Post subject:

I don't like RB's or WR's in the top 10.

Fournette may be a special case though, but still...don't like RB's that high.

Chargers of course botch their pick in typical fashion, but since I am a NFL Fan Free Agent, I no longer care.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:25 am    Post subject:

ChickenStu wrote:
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adkindo wrote:
freakin steal by San Fran with Foster @ #31


They're concerns about his shoulder injury and that's why he fell so many spots.


If healthy, the dude is Luke Kuechly-esque.



That's my working comparison as well.

Too many red flags though:

1) Injury prone, which doesn't bode well for a LB.

2) A bit undersized, even for a OLB.

3) Mental state, word is that he's immature. Getting kicked out of the combine didn't help.

4) Over-hydrated. HA. As if he and his agent didn't know about over-hydration. Is it herb, or is it steroids. The latter might be the case, due to injury, or maybe due to wanting to enhance performance.


He's a good pick towards the end of the first round. Very high ceiling, but the floor might be pulled from under him.
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