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tox
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| If Fultz is as good as hyped (not watching clips -- I refuse) then no way. |
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LakerFan1977
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I really think that we can win playoff series with both directions, with either signing the top pick to this team and continue the youth movement, or have an undeniable great bargaining chip with another team for a superstar level talent in a trade package
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| LakerFan1977 wrote: | | Boldarblood wrote: | | I keep the draft pick every day of the week. Fultz or Ball would be a great addition to this team. Westbrook is a great player, top 3-5 player in league, but man I worry about him after he starts to decline. I am not a fan of Cousins, to much baggage. I like Butler, but I doubt Chicago drops him for anything. PG13 I would be tempted with. But again, Fultz or Ball is better than anyone we have now. |
Ill agree that Fultz could be as good or better than DeAngelo but does that mean sign him just to have two talents at one position? I don't think that's the smartest move, if its for a move that signals a change in team philosophy that's yet to be seen |
Russell and Fultz would be a great backfield. Russell could easily play SG in that role, plus both are good ball handlers. Would be a win-win I believe. |
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splashmtn
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| Scoffs wrote: | Keep it. Trade Russell and Randle for Jimmy Butler.
2017-2018 line-up:
Fultz
Butler
Ingram
Nance
Zubac
Good mix of offense and defense.
Bench:
Mozgov
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not going to work. since larry nance doesn't attempt to score enough and he's always hurt. if he's semi injury prone like i think he is but hope he isnt(lol.) then you need him as a backup and a more reliable starter. |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:03 am Post subject: |
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| nash wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Trade it, we have enough players we need to develop, unless we are getting a player in the draft that has LeBron or Jordan potential |
I don't know if we have a better prospect than Fultz. |
Ding.
Don't trade it.
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RI Laker
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If we keep our pick, we can turn this team around quick. I would not trade it because the rookie salary is just to valuable. Trade Lou for a 1st. That would leave us with the following pieces to off Deng or Moz (we need sweeteners) and/or trade for a solid vet.
JC/JR/Black/1st from the Lou trade. |
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The #1 for AD or the Greek Freak....  |
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| FreakofNature wrote: | | The #1 for AD or the Greek Freak.... |
I would almost throw the house for AD.
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nash
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| Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:05 am Post subject: |
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| Scoffs wrote: | Keep it. Trade Russell and Randle for Jimmy Butler.
2017-2018 line-up:
Fultz
Butler
Ingram
Nance
Zubac
Good mix of offense and defense.
Bench:
Mozgov
Deng
JC
Black
Lou |
Improbably, but I like it |
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nash
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| Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:09 am Post subject: |
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| tox wrote: | | If Fultz is as good as hyped (not watching clips -- I refuse) then no way. |
I didn't watch clips until recently and was not impressed by Fultz at first, but after watching a ton of material I believe he may be the best guard since Lillard. I like Ball too as a fit, our roster lacks his playmaking skills and despite his unorthodox stroke, he is making his shots from deep. |
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nash
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| Mike@LG wrote: | | FreakofNature wrote: | | The #1 for AD or the Greek Freak.... |
I would almost throw the house for AD. |
I'd throw the house for AD. |
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I will trade it also, but my target will be a SG; KThompson, JButler, CMcCollum & KMiddleton in that order  |
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I'd trade Russell and Mosgov instead, I'm not in favour of him playing SG one bit, his advantages would be nullified there.
I'd prefer to get/sign a defensive swingman (Jimmy???) in that place.
Could be the pick + Mosgov too.
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| diando wrote: | I'd trade Russell and Mosgov instead, I'm not in favour of him playing SG one bit, his advantages would be nullified there.
I'd prefer to get/sign a defensive swingman (Jimmy???) in that place.
Could be the pick + Mosgov too. |
It will be the pick and Mosgov because teams will eye that pick more than our other players. Also we will need a center too. |
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Probably not. With the new CBA the only real way to build a championship team Now is to draft 2-3 all stars and then hope to get mid to late career all stars to join them via collusion when the drafted guys are peaking.
Trading a #1 pick for a Jimmy Butler + something is the opposite of what you need to do to win anymore. Keep grinding the lottery until you hit gold, hit 2 or 3 times in a row, then those players are in a position to convince their homies around the league to jump on board for a title run. |
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BigGameHames
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| Take Ball |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| nash wrote: | | tox wrote: | | If Fultz is as good as hyped (not watching clips -- I refuse) then no way. |
I didn't watch clips until recently and was not impressed by Fultz at first, but after watching a ton of material I believe he may be the best guard since Lillard. I like Ball too as a fit, our roster lacks his playmaking skills and despite his unorthodox stroke, he is making his shots from deep. |
I think he's the best guard prospect since Wall.
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| justsomelakerfan wrote: | | nash wrote: | | tox wrote: | | If Fultz is as good as hyped (not watching clips -- I refuse) then no way. |
I didn't watch clips until recently and was not impressed by Fultz at first, but after watching a ton of material I believe he may be the best guard since Lillard. I like Ball too as a fit, our roster lacks his playmaking skills and despite his unorthodox stroke, he is making his shots from deep. |
I think he's the best guard prospect since Wall. |
If only the word prospect translated in NBA superstar, our starting five would all be superstars
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What if the Lakers end up with #1 and the Kings get #8. Would you trade the #1 for the #8 and WCS?
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| If AD or Giannis is coming back, sure. |
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LakerFan1977
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I can see why this is happening, with a potentially 1st pick in the draft and all being the best prospects being primarily backcourt players it gives us a glimpse of what the Lakers are planning, my best guess is we are trading small for big with the hope that the player can develop like a Vlade Divac or Andrew Bynum, its not out of the question that the front office my flirt with the idea of bringing back Pau Gasol for a renaissance and dump some marginal contracts onto another team, and perhaps get a really good deal ready for a run at a superstar, or just wait and continue the youth movement
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| Fortysixn2 wrote: | Probably not. With the new CBA the only real way to build a championship team Now is to draft 2-3 all stars and then hope to get mid to late career all stars to join them via collusion when the drafted guys are peaking.
Trading a #1 pick for a Jimmy Butler + something is the opposite of what you need to do to win anymore. Keep grinding the lottery until you hit gold, hit 2 or 3 times in a row, then those players are in a position to convince their homies around the league to jump on board for a title run. |
Yeah. This is what I feel like needs to happen also. With the added caveat that a late round steal really is what pushes a team over the hump. |
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| I'd think that smart front offices always listen at the very least, to consider trades for the pick (or for a selected prospect). That said, if a player of a specific profile or potential (such as Lonzo Ball, for example) would be expected to be on the board at the time of the Laker choosing, I'd be inclined to keep the pick and try to move some other Laker contract (Randle ? Mozgov ?). |
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| BigGameHames wrote: | | Take Ball |
I'm sure there would be pressure to take the local kid. He's going to be good, his basketball IQ is off the charts, but I would still take Fultz. I seriously think Fultz could be the next DWade. Physically and skillwise Fultz just projects to that type of high ceiling prospect.
You could build the team around Fultz and trade off pieces that don't fit around him. He's a tier down from a LeBron prospect but Fultz is a better prospect than KAT, Simmons, etc types that were available the past 2 drafts. Future franchise player. Fultz seriously projects to the Anthony Davis, healthy Embiid ceiling type of prospect.
No offense to DLo but you do not pass on Fultz simply because DLo was drafted #2 in 2015. |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | What if the Lakers end up with #1 and the Kings get #8. Would you trade the #1 for the #8 and WCS? |
Heck no. |
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