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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:58 pm Post subject:
Aeneas Hunter wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
Lets see what Stephen A. Smith has to say about this....
If SAS thinks it was a bad trade, that means the Kings made the right move.
Do you think it was a good or bad trade? I think it was good for NO. SAS's personality and loud mouth shouldn't detract from his BBIQ. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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Lets see what Stephen A. Smith has to say about this....
If SAS thinks it was a bad trade, that means the Kings made the right move.
Do you think it was a good or bad trade? I think it was good for NO. SAS's personality and loud mouth shouldn't detract from his BBIQ.
SAS's BBIQ? All I ever hear from him is either Captain Obvious stuff or idiocy.
You have to look at this trade in the larger context. This summer, Cousins was going to be demanding a five-year extension for $209M. If you were the Kings, would you give it to him? I wouldn't. He isn't a guy I would want to build a franchise around. So they punted him to the Pelicans, who can offer him a max of 5 years/$180M next summer. Cousins just lost a potential of $30M. More importantly, the Pelicans have to hope that Cousins will sign with them, or else all they get is a rental.
Anyway, the Kings needed to make a call: build around Cousins, or start over. They picked the latter. The ugly truth is starting to emerge in some of the media reports: Not that many teams were interested in Cousins, and the ones that were interested were making lowball offers. It was a buyers' market. Why? The same reasons I just stated. Cousins and his agents desperately wanted to get the $209M from the Kings, so they put the word out that he wouldn't sign with any team that traded for him. So if you trade for Cousins, your best case scenario is that you get to give an enormous contract to a guy who may not be worth it, and your worst case scenario is that you are just getting a rental.
Anyway, it's easy to criticize this deal when you look at the basketball talent going back and forth, but that is only one axis on the NBA diagram. If the Kings didn't pull the trigger, they were facing a scenario this summer where Cousins says "Give me the $209M extension, or I walk in a year." In fact, one of my first thoughts was to wonder why the Kings didn't wait until the summer if this is the best offer they could get. I think what I just said is the answer to the question.
Lets see what Stephen A. Smith has to say about this....
If SAS thinks it was a bad trade, that means the Kings made the right move.
Do you think it was a good or bad trade? I think it was good for NO. SAS's personality and loud mouth shouldn't detract from his BBIQ.
SAS's BBIQ? All I ever hear from him is either Captain Obvious stuff or idiocy.
You have to look at this trade in the larger context. This summer, Cousins was going to be demanding a five-year extension for $209M. If you were the Kings, would you give it to him? I wouldn't. He isn't a guy I would want to build a franchise around. So they punted him to the Pelicans, who can offer him a max of 5 years/$180M next summer. Cousins just lost a potential of $30M. More importantly, the Pelicans have to hope that Cousins will sign with them, or else all they get is a rental.
Anyway, the Kings needed to make a call: build around Cousins, or start over. They picked the latter. The ugly truth is starting to emerge in some of the media reports: Not that many teams were interested in Cousins, and the ones that were interested were making lowball offers. It was a buyers' market. Why? The same reasons I just stated. Cousins and his agents desperately wanted to get the $209M from the Kings, so they put the word out that he wouldn't sign with any team that traded for him. So if you trade for Cousins, your best case scenario is that you get to give an enormous contract to a guy who may not be worth it, and your worst case scenario is that you are just getting a rental.
Anyway, it's easy to criticize this deal when you look at the basketball talent going back and forth, but that is only one axis on the NBA diagram. If the Kings didn't pull the trigger, they were facing a scenario this summer where Cousins says "Give me the $209M extension, or I walk in a year." In fact, one of my first thoughts was to wonder why the Kings didn't wait until the summer if this is the best offer they could get. I think what I just said is the answer to the question.
Who are we kidding....this is the Kings we are talking about. Theres a reason why superstar players don't go to that franchise unless they are drafted or traded there. It will be much easier to get rid of somebody like DMC than to get another superstar player to Sacramento to be the future of that franchise....oh well I guess they will be reliving memories of the C-Webb era for the next decade or more....
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:52 pm Post subject:
Aeneas Hunter wrote:
jodeke wrote:
Aeneas Hunter wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
Lets see what Stephen A. Smith has to say about this....
If SAS thinks it was a bad trade, that means the Kings made the right move.
Do you think it was a good or bad trade? I think it was good for NO. SAS's personality and loud mouth shouldn't detract from his BBIQ.
SAS's BBIQ? All I ever hear from him is either Captain Obvious stuff or idiocy.
You have to look at this trade in the larger context. This summer, Cousins was going to be demanding a five-year extension for $209M. If you were the Kings, would you give it to him? I wouldn't. He isn't a guy I would want to build a franchise around. So they punted him to the Pelicans, who can offer him a max of 5 years/$180M next summer. Cousins just lost a potential of $30M. More importantly, the Pelicans have to hope that Cousins will sign with them, or else all they get is a rental.
Anyway, the Kings needed to make a call: build around Cousins, or start over. They picked the latter. The ugly truth is starting to emerge in some of the media reports: Not that many teams were interested in Cousins, and the ones that were interested were making lowball offers. It was a buyers' market. Why? The same reasons I just stated. Cousins and his agents desperately wanted to get the $209M from the Kings, so they put the word out that he wouldn't sign with any team that traded for him. So if you trade for Cousins, your best case scenario is that you get to give an enormous contract to a guy who may not be worth it, and your worst case scenario is that you are just getting a rental.
Anyway, it's easy to criticize this deal when you look at the basketball talent going back and forth, but that is only one axis on the NBA diagram. If the Kings didn't pull the trigger, they were facing a scenario this summer where Cousins says "Give me the $209M extension, or I walk in a year." In fact, one of my first thoughts was to wonder why the Kings didn't wait until the summer if this is the best offer they could get. I think what I just said is the answer to the question.
OK. I think it's going to be good for NO if he can play with Davis. Thursday won't tell much. I give them this season to gel, next to make a move.
SAS has been in the business for 20 years or more. I think he has strong knowledge. I don't let his shtick clot my hearing what he has to say. Different strokes.
Not my money so I didn't factor it. I'd give him a max contract. Maybe not in Sacramento. It doesn't look like that's a good place for him. Lets wait and see in NO.
For reasons unknown when players leave Sac they thrive e.g. Biyombo, Whiteside, Isaiah Thomas _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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The Kings drafted Biyombo, Whiteside, Cousins and Isaiah Thomas and lost ALL of them. That's pretty awful.
I think once Cousins plays in a new environment he will thrive , whether it be New Orleans or another team in the future. The Kings environment has been toxic for years.
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:55 pm Post subject:
lakersken80 wrote:
Dorray wrote:
The Kings drafted Biyombo, Whiteside, Cousins and Isaiah Thomas and lost ALL of them. That's pretty awful.
I think once Cousins plays in a new environment he will thrive , whether it be New Orleans or another team in the future. The Kings environment has been toxic for years.
Don't forget WCS and Skal, both of whom have been terrible. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
Its easy to blame everything on Cousins, but when you realize that the Kings have gone thru ownership changes, potential relocation year after year, multiple GM's and coaches thru the years, that kind of instability doesn't breed success, not to mention you don't have a singular vision of where the direction of the franchise is going.
Didn't want Cousins, but it still hurts to see another big name free agent snub the purple and gold.
He's not a free agent he was traded...... _________________ "You cannot live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you"
SAS's BBIQ? All I ever hear from him is either Captain Obvious stuff or idiocy.
You have to look at this trade in the larger context. This summer, Cousins was going to be demanding a five-year extension for $209M. If you were the Kings, would you give it to him? I wouldn't. He isn't a guy I would want to build a franchise around. So they punted him to the Pelicans, who can offer him a max of 5 years/$180M next summer. Cousins just lost a potential of $30M. More importantly, the Pelicans have to hope that Cousins will sign with them, or else all they get is a rental.
Anyway, the Kings needed to make a call: build around Cousins, or start over. They picked the latter. The ugly truth is starting to emerge in some of the media reports: Not that many teams were interested in Cousins, and the ones that were interested were making lowball offers. It was a buyers' market. Why? The same reasons I just stated. Cousins and his agents desperately wanted to get the $209M from the Kings, so they put the word out that he wouldn't sign with any team that traded for him. So if you trade for Cousins, your best case scenario is that you get to give an enormous contract to a guy who may not be worth it, and your worst case scenario is that you are just getting a rental.
Anyway, it's easy to criticize this deal when you look at the basketball talent going back and forth, but that is only one axis on the NBA diagram. If the Kings didn't pull the trigger, they were facing a scenario this summer where Cousins says "Give me the $209M extension, or I walk in a year." In fact, one of my first thoughts was to wonder why the Kings didn't wait until the summer if this is the best offer they could get. I think what I just said is the answer to the question.
100% Agree! _________________ “Always remember... Rumors are carried by haters, spread by fools, and accepted by idiots.”
The Kings drafted Biyombo, Whiteside, Cousins and Isaiah Thomas and lost ALL of them. That's pretty awful.
I think once Cousins plays in a new environment he will thrive , whether it be New Orleans or another team in the future. The Kings environment has been toxic for years.
Hasn't he already been thriving? Dude's a (bleep) monster. _________________ A banana is killed every time a terrible thread or post is made. Save the bananas. Stop creating terrible posts!
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