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Tony Anapolis
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:45 pm Post subject:

So...would you of rather had Nicholson and Thornton? And probably would of had to give up someone else as well?

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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:46 pm Post subject:

Four Decade Bandwagon wrote:

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Neither team done working the phones. Could just be agreeing to leave it open to provide more flexibility for rerouting/aggregating Brewer and or more salary matching margin for either team.

Any news on who the third team may be?

Think you are right about just being open to expanding the deal. Both teams have stated they have players to move.

Both reports I heard (~4pm and again ~5pm PST) said that both teams were taking a lot of calls...
that sounds like anywhere from several to quite a few other teams are at least reaching out...
FWIW: it was 2 different people reporting this. Ramona was one and Windhorst the other
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:48 pm Post subject:

P.K. wrote:

Four Decade Bandwagon wrote:

Laker's Fan wrote:

Neither team done working the phones. Could just be agreeing to leave it open to provide more flexibility for rerouting/aggregating Brewer and or more salary matching margin for either team.

Any news on who the third team may be?

Think you are right about just being open to expanding the deal. Both teams have stated they have players to move.

So we might get another piece?

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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:50 pm Post subject:

P.K. wrote:

Four Decade Bandwagon wrote:

Laker's Fan wrote:

Neither team done working the phones. Could just be agreeing to leave it open to provide more flexibility for rerouting/aggregating Brewer and or more salary matching margin for either team.

Any news on who the third team may be?

Think you are right about just being open to expanding the deal. Both teams have stated they have players to move.

Why am I not seeing this anywhere on twitter?
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:51 pm Post subject:

I hope the 3rd team is the sucker that gets Mozgov.

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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:51 pm Post subject:

Runway8 wrote:

P.K. wrote:

outkast100 wrote:

We may be trying to get in on moving shumpert to Houston. Hmmm maybe we send over brewer to clvd or somewhere else.

Cavs announced a little while ago that they weren't interested in trading Shump..

Just 'cause they said it, doesn't mean it's true...so, take that for what it's worth too

I know, and Vlade reminded us, "I said I wouldn't trade Cousins. But I never said I wouldn't give him away."

Vlade and crew made that trade as fast as they could so that idiot owner couldn't change his mind again

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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:57 pm Post subject:

Inspector Gadget wrote:

P.K. wrote:

Four Decade Bandwagon wrote:

Laker's Fan wrote:

Neither team done working the phones. Could just be agreeing to leave it open to provide more flexibility for rerouting/aggregating Brewer and or more salary matching margin for either team.

Any news on who the third team may be?

Think you are right about just being open to expanding the deal. Both teams have stated they have players to move.

So we might get another piece?

I kind of doubt that they'd get an "additional" piece -- I'd suspect the basic terms of the trade would remain the same. If anything changed on the Lakers side, I'd guess that they might get a different player
but, that's just speculation
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:01 pm Post subject:

P.K. wrote:

Inspector Gadget wrote:

P.K. wrote:

Four Decade Bandwagon wrote:

Laker's Fan wrote:

Neither team done working the phones. Could just be agreeing to leave it open to provide more flexibility for rerouting/aggregating Brewer and or more salary matching margin for either team.

Any news on who the third team may be?

Think you are right about just being open to expanding the deal. Both teams have stated they have players to move.

So we might get another piece?

Thanks.

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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:06 pm Post subject:

P.K. wrote:

Inspector Gadget wrote:

P.K. wrote:

Four Decade Bandwagon wrote:

Laker's Fan wrote:

Neither team done working the phones. Could just be agreeing to leave it open to provide more flexibility for rerouting/aggregating Brewer and or more salary matching margin for either team.

Any news on who the third team may be?

Think you are right about just being open to expanding the deal. Both teams have stated they have players to move.

So we might get another piece?

LA probably isn't wedded to Brewer per se so that flexibility and the general trade rule flexibility with a simultaneous deal make it an environment that can facilitate other things. I'm guessing Magic doesn't want anything longer that two years and beyond that you can incentivize him to swap Brewer on the cheap. If it's to help Houston though he should get something out of it (unless it's just a mutual understanding that both are looking for opportunity).
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:12 pm Post subject:

Laker's Fan wrote:

P.K. wrote:

Inspector Gadget wrote:

P.K. wrote:

Four Decade Bandwagon wrote:

Laker's Fan wrote:

Neither team done working the phones. Could just be agreeing to leave it open to provide more flexibility for rerouting/aggregating Brewer and or more salary matching margin for either team.

Any news on who the third team may be?

Think you are right about just being open to expanding the deal. Both teams have stated they have players to move.

So we might get another piece?

Yes. I don't think anyone in LA is all that high on Brewer
IF (big IF), for example, LA could get someone else who expired this year instead of next they'd probably be ecstatic
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:16 pm Post subject:

Get Zhou Qi's rights damnit

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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:23 pm Post subject:

bonkers wrote:

Get Zhou Qi's rights damnit

That would make it a better trade.

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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:26 pm Post subject:

Cant check this on a trade machine because they have lou and brewer already shipped.. but what about thiis La out- moz and lou La in- schumpert and houston 1st Houston in - lou williams and filler from cavs Houston out brewer and 2017 first Cavs out- schump and filler Cavs in - moz and brewer _________________ “What is 17,505” “Rest at the end not at the middle”

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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:41 pm Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:

Omar Little wrote:

yinoma2001 wrote:

Omar Little wrote:

I don't think Houston attaches a first to brewer, but they were attaching at least a second in trying to move him earlier, and have had no takers. As of this morning, they are talking about looking for a ten to twelve million player utilizing cash and expiring. This means two things:

That they are willing to part with pretty much any combination of McDaniels, nene, and ennis (it would take all of them to bring in a 12 mil player) and throw in cash.

They can do this because they still have them instead of brewer.

Like I said last night, magic got taken for brewer, so Morey can now trybto flip the expiring he should have gotten (and that they are willing to part with), or worst case, have an extra seven mil in cap room that should be on the Lakers books.

Morey got two trades for the price of one, and he's trying to leverage it into three.

Morey tends to beat even the best. Bested Sam Presti too.

Presti and ownership did that to themselves, because they were so worried about paying harden, and by extension, luxury tax.

I'm trying to think of when Morey egregiously lost a trade recently.

I guess the point is Mitch woukd not let Morey take advantage of us. Whether it would be to add better pieces, trade with another team or complete no trade at all, we will never know.

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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:47 pm Post subject:

bonkers wrote:

Get Zhou Qi's rights damnit

i totally forgot about this dude

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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:51 pm Post subject:

rebirth wrote:

Cant check this on a trade machine because they have lou and brewer already shipped.. but what about thiis

La out- moz and lou
La in- schumpert and houston 1st
Houston in - lou williams and filler from cavs
Houston out brewer and 2017 first
Cavs out- schump and filler
Cavs in - moz and brewer

Cavs let Moz walk last summer without even trying to sign him.
Cavs have said they're not interested in trading Shump
and Cavs already have about 4 dozen 6'9" PF/SF types and couldn't even remotely use Brewer. They need a PG/playmaker.
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:56 pm Post subject:

rebirth wrote:

why would the Cavs do that?

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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:10 pm Post subject:

TransientTexan wrote:

rebirth wrote:

why would the Cavs do that?

they wouldn't. 😋

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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:02 pm Post subject:

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Sources: Washington Wizards are exploring the trade market for veteran point guard Trey Burke and are asking for a second-round draft pick.

Welp. I thought someone said he couldn't be traded yet??

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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:09 pm Post subject:

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Sources: Washington Wizards are exploring the trade market for veteran point guard Trey Burke and are asking for a second-round draft pick.

Welp. I thought someone said he couldn't be traded yet??

Yep, already came clean for the misunderstanding. Not afraid to admit when I'm wrong. Can't say the same for a lot of people on here.

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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:10 pm Post subject:

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Michael ScottoVerified account
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Sources: Washington Wizards are exploring the trade market for veteran point guard Trey Burke and are asking for a second-round draft pick.

Welp. I thought someone said he couldn't be traded yet??

Yep, already came clean for the misunderstanding. Not afraid to admit when I'm wrong. Can't say the same for a lot of people on here.

I missed that. Burke + 1st for Lou sounded a lot better for both teams. But maybe they couldn't agree on the protections.

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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:12 pm Post subject:

fiendishoc wrote:

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Sources: Washington Wizards are exploring the trade market for veteran point guard Trey Burke and are asking for a second-round draft pick.

Welp. I thought someone said he couldn't be traded yet??

He's also clearly a key cog to the Wizards bench.

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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:14 pm Post subject:

fiendishoc wrote:

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fiendishoc wrote:

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Michael ScottoVerified account
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Sources: Washington Wizards are exploring the trade market for veteran point guard Trey Burke and are asking for a second-round draft pick.

Welp. I thought someone said he couldn't be traded yet??

Yep, already came clean for the misunderstanding. Not afraid to admit when I'm wrong. Can't say the same for a lot of people on here.

I missed that. Burke + 1st for Lou sounded a lot better for both teams. But maybe they couldn't agree on the protections.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Washington has to throw in another player to make salaries match, since it's less than $10MM combined, and Lou makes more than 150% of Burke's salary + $100K.

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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:20 pm Post subject:

AC Green's V-Card wrote:

fiendishoc wrote:

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fiendishoc wrote:

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Michael ScottoVerified account
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Sources: Washington Wizards are exploring the trade market for veteran point guard Trey Burke and are asking for a second-round draft pick.

Welp. I thought someone said he couldn't be traded yet??

Yep, already came clean for the misunderstanding. Not afraid to admit when I'm wrong. Can't say the same for a lot of people on here.

I missed that. Burke + 1st for Lou sounded a lot better for both teams. But maybe they couldn't agree on the protections.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Washington has to throw in another player to make salaries match, since it's less than $10MM combined, and Lou makes more than 150% of Burke's salary + $100K.

Yes, basically, the Wizards would have had to have been sending out at least $4.6MM in salary, since 150% of that is 6.9MM and then the extra 100K gets you to Lou's $7MM figure.

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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:21 pm Post subject:

fiendishoc wrote:

AC Green's V-Card wrote:

fiendishoc wrote:

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Michael ScottoVerified account
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Sources: Washington Wizards are exploring the trade market for veteran point guard Trey Burke and are asking for a second-round draft pick.

Welp. I thought someone said he couldn't be traded yet??

Yep, already came clean for the misunderstanding. Not afraid to admit when I'm wrong. Can't say the same for a lot of people on here.

I missed that. Burke + 1st for Lou sounded a lot better for both teams. But maybe they couldn't agree on the protections.

I just think that Washington was requiring someone to take Nicholson if they were giving up their 1st, or possibly Smith at the very least. And that would've messed with our 2018 cap space, which we might be pointing to.

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