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| levon wrote: | | AC Green's V-Card wrote: | | Scoffs wrote: | | AC Green's V-Card wrote: | | Scoffs wrote: | Look at his numbers. The offensive stats don't look much better than Lou's.
MP(35.7); FG%(0.446); 3P%(0.383); TRB(6.2); AST(3.3); STL(1.6); PTS(22.3)
Lou's stats:
MP(24.2); FG%(0.444); 3P%(0.386); TRB(2.3); AST(3.2); STL(1.1); PTS(18.6)
Let's not overrate PG. |
Come on, dude. At least provide some context. Night in, night out, Lou Williams is playing against the other's team's bench while Paul George is guarded by the best opposing wing defender. That's not a fair comparison in the slightest. |
Fair point, but Lou's also playing 10 fewer minutes. Lou's per 36 stats would be better than PG's in most categories except rebounding. |
Again, you're extrapolating Lou's Per 36 with stats which were accumulated against bench competition. Paul George's come against starters (and their best defender). What are you missing in this equation? |
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Scoffs
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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| AC Green's V-Card wrote: | | Scoffs wrote: | | AC Green's V-Card wrote: | | Scoffs wrote: | Look at his numbers. The offensive stats don't look much better than Lou's.
MP(35.7); FG%(0.446); 3P%(0.383); TRB(6.2); AST(3.3); STL(1.6); PTS(22.3)
Lou's stats:
MP(24.2); FG%(0.444); 3P%(0.386); TRB(2.3); AST(3.2); STL(1.1); PTS(18.6)
Let's not overrate PG. |
Come on, dude. At least provide some context. Night in, night out, Lou Williams is playing against the other's team's bench while Paul George is guarded by the best opposing wing defender. That's not a fair comparison in the slightest. |
Fair point, but Lou's also playing 10 fewer minutes. Lou's per 36 stats would be better than PG's in most categories except rebounding. |
Again, you're extrapolating Lou's Per 36 with stats which were accumulated against bench competition. Paul George's come against starters (and their best defender). What are you missing in this equation? |
About half of Lou's stats came in the 4th quarter against starters. I'm in no way saying that Lou is on the same level as PG, but I am saying that PG is overrated. |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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| richmorgan12 wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | Inverse wrote: | | justsomelakerfan wrote: | | Inverse wrote: | | Quote: | | from what we are hearing in Phoenix from Suns sources is that Paul George agent is telling teams that Paul George will sign with the Lakers in 2018 no matter what. |
Take this with a grain of salt. Found it off Reddit.
If Pelinka knows anything about this, which I assume he does, then there is no way hes dealing for him |
Pelinka would probably know if it was a thing. But question, was this posted on the Suns subreddit or...? |
No it was in the pacers subreddit. Should've linked it |
If that's the case, bird would be foolish not to take clarkson/randle/hou pick. Incentive for lakers would be to guarantee he's with you and work on signing him past 2018. |
If that's true, why would you trade for someone who says he's coming anyway??? |
Because you know when agent is throwing crap out in the media? Similar to Cousin's agent saying he wouldn't sign if traded, it is all bluffing.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Scoffs wrote: | | AC Green's V-Card wrote: | | Scoffs wrote: | | AC Green's V-Card wrote: | | Scoffs wrote: | Look at his numbers. The offensive stats don't look much better than Lou's.
MP(35.7); FG%(0.446); 3P%(0.383); TRB(6.2); AST(3.3); STL(1.6); PTS(22.3)
Lou's stats:
MP(24.2); FG%(0.444); 3P%(0.386); TRB(2.3); AST(3.2); STL(1.1); PTS(18.6)
Let's not overrate PG. |
Come on, dude. At least provide some context. Night in, night out, Lou Williams is playing against the other's team's bench while Paul George is guarded by the best opposing wing defender. That's not a fair comparison in the slightest. |
Fair point, but Lou's also playing 10 fewer minutes. Lou's per 36 stats would be better than PG's in most categories except rebounding. |
Again, you're extrapolating Lou's Per 36 with stats which were accumulated against bench competition. Paul George's come against starters (and their best defender). What are you missing in this equation? |
About half of Lou's stats came in the 4th quarter against starters. I'm in no way saying that Lou is on the same level as PG, but I am saying that PG is overrated. |
George is a great defensive player. Lou not even close. Say it a thousand more times and you'd still be wrong. |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Clutch24 wrote: | | Scoffs wrote: | | AC Green's V-Card wrote: | | Scoffs wrote: | | AC Green's V-Card wrote: | | Scoffs wrote: | Look at his numbers. The offensive stats don't look much better than Lou's.
MP(35.7); FG%(0.446); 3P%(0.383); TRB(6.2); AST(3.3); STL(1.6); PTS(22.3)
Lou's stats:
MP(24.2); FG%(0.444); 3P%(0.386); TRB(2.3); AST(3.2); STL(1.1); PTS(18.6)
Let's not overrate PG. |
Come on, dude. At least provide some context. Night in, night out, Lou Williams is playing against the other's team's bench while Paul George is guarded by the best opposing wing defender. That's not a fair comparison in the slightest. |
Fair point, but Lou's also playing 10 fewer minutes. Lou's per 36 stats would be better than PG's in most categories except rebounding. |
Again, you're extrapolating Lou's Per 36 with stats which were accumulated against bench competition. Paul George's come against starters (and their best defender). What are you missing in this equation? |
About half of Lou's stats came in the 4th quarter against starters. I'm in no way saying that Lou is on the same level as PG, but I am saying that PG is overrated. |
George is a great defensive player. Lou not even close. Say it a thousand more times and you'd still be wrong. |
I think people forget that basketball is a two-way sport. Not only is George guarded by the other team's best, he has to guard their best. He's one of the best two-way players in the entire NBA. But somehow that makes him "overrated." |
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Paul George is a solid all star offensive and defensive player, he reminds me of guys like Bruce Bowen, Doug Christie, and Trevor Ariza, guys who can play at the highest level and give you want you need when you need it, not a primetime clutch player like Kobe or CP3 but surely close
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| PG-13 in my book when considering both sides of the ball, is without doubt a top 11 player. I put him with harden/Leonard/Butler/Cousins and the Greek freak in the 6th to 11th best group in the NBA.... |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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| AC Green's V-Card wrote: | | Clutch24 wrote: | | Scoffs wrote: | | AC Green's V-Card wrote: | | Scoffs wrote: | | AC Green's V-Card wrote: | | Scoffs wrote: | Look at his numbers. The offensive stats don't look much better than Lou's.
MP(35.7); FG%(0.446); 3P%(0.383); TRB(6.2); AST(3.3); STL(1.6); PTS(22.3)
Lou's stats:
MP(24.2); FG%(0.444); 3P%(0.386); TRB(2.3); AST(3.2); STL(1.1); PTS(18.6)
Let's not overrate PG. |
Come on, dude. At least provide some context. Night in, night out, Lou Williams is playing against the other's team's bench while Paul George is guarded by the best opposing wing defender. That's not a fair comparison in the slightest. |
Fair point, but Lou's also playing 10 fewer minutes. Lou's per 36 stats would be better than PG's in most categories except rebounding. |
Again, you're extrapolating Lou's Per 36 with stats which were accumulated against bench competition. Paul George's come against starters (and their best defender). What are you missing in this equation? |
About half of Lou's stats came in the 4th quarter against starters. I'm in no way saying that Lou is on the same level as PG, but I am saying that PG is overrated. |
George is a great defensive player. Lou not even close. Say it a thousand more times and you'd still be wrong. |
I think people forget that basketball is a two-way sport. Not only is George guarded by the other team's best, he has to guard their best. He's one of the best two-way players in the entire NBA. But somehow that makes him "overrated." |
This.
That is why I tend to agree that Okafor was not a great prospect and I have a lot of concerns about Julius and Dlo. One way players have to be among the best or they are liabilities to a team. PG is not a dominant player, but he is very good doing about everything. I believe he can be the second best player in a championship roster, kinda Pipen. |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerFan1977 wrote: | | Paul George is a solid all star offensive and defensive player, he reminds me of guys like Bruce Bowen, Doug Christie, and Trevor Ariza, guys who can play at the highest level and give you want you need when you need it, not a primetime clutch player like Kobe or CP3 but surely close |
Were those guys all stars and all NBA players too?
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerFan1977 wrote: | | Paul George is a solid all star offensive and defensive player, he reminds me of guys like Bruce Bowen, Doug Christie, and Trevor Ariza, guys who can play at the highest level and give you want you need when you need it, not a primetime clutch player like Kobe or CP3 but surely close |
Lol |
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| tox wrote: | | LakerFan1977 wrote: | | Paul George is a solid all star offensive and defensive player, he reminds me of guys like Bruce Bowen, Doug Christie, and Trevor Ariza, guys who can play at the highest level and give you want you need when you need it, not a primetime clutch player like Kobe or CP3 but surely close |
Lol |
Keep Ingram over Russell would be my rule in any trade.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Cp3 is not clutch. Where did that come from? |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Jhin0821 wrote: | | Cp3 is not clutch. Where did that come from? |
When he busted us up on the hornets. |
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| 1hu2ren3dui4 wrote: | | Jhin0821 wrote: | | Cp3 is not clutch. Where did that come from? |
When he busted us up on the hornets. |
My memory must be bad. When did he crush us? |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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| 32 wrote: | | https://twitter.com/LASportsRadio/status/834622152611549185 |
Fake |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Jhin0821 wrote: | | Cp3 is not clutch. Where did that come from? |
Well, a game 7 buzzer beater helps.... |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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| diando wrote: | | tox wrote: | | LakerFan1977 wrote: | | Paul George is a solid all star offensive and defensive player, he reminds me of guys like Bruce Bowen, Doug Christie, and Trevor Ariza, guys who can play at the highest level and give you want you need when you need it, not a primetime clutch player like Kobe or CP3 but surely close |
Lol |
Keep Ingram over Russell would be my rule in any trade. |
Ok |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | https://twitter.com/LASportsRadio/status/834622152611549185 |
Fake |
The dude has 36K followers |
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Ramona says it's not likely to happen.
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| Chase.button07 wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | https://twitter.com/LASportsRadio/status/834622152611549185 |
Fake |
The dude has 36K followers |
Yeah. That's why I post it. However they aren't verified.
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| Chase.button07 wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | https://twitter.com/LASportsRadio/status/834622152611549185 |
Fake |
The dude has 36K followers |
I mean look at how people are responding to the tweet, they think it's a joke..
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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| 32 wrote: | | Ramona says it's not likely to happen. |
Was she on ESPN? |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18745089/los-angeles-lakers-reach-indiana-pacers-availability-paul-george
I dont know if its just me, but this article is odd to me.
"We just want you to know, they talked one time because they are friends, but there is no deal here and nothing else to see."
Unless there is talks ongoing and a possibility for a deal, then write article. This just seems like an article to get some clicks and reads. |
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AC Green's V-Card
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerFan1977 wrote: | | Paul George is a solid all star offensive and defensive player, he reminds me of guys like Bruce Bowen, Doug Christie, and Trevor Ariza, guys who can play at the highest level and give you want you need when you need it, not a primetime clutch player like Kobe or CP3 but surely close |
He reminds you of players who were never a first scoring option or averaged 17 PPG in their best seasons? Really?
He's not clutch? Ah ok, I guess that game-tying three to force OT and the game winning free throw in the Conference Finals never happened. You know, the Conference Finals, that round CP3 has yet to advance to.
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