Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:20 pm Post subject: Re: Statement from Mitch Kupchak
MIMLaker wrote:
CaliRyderX wrote:
Good Riddance to you and Jim Buss as shot callers. You were without question the worst GM the Lakers have had.
I have no hate for you, but I strongly disagree with your assessment.
You have the right to your opinion within the Rules of this Board.
As do I. Here's mine, from an earlier post.
Quote:
Mitch Kupchak gave everything he had to this franchise.
Came as a free agent from Washington to be Kareem's backup.
Fought through a ton of knee injuries.
Literally fought with Akeem Olajuwon in the desperation Game 5 of the 1986 WCF and got both of them thrown out of the game... a pawn-for-queen gambit which is legendary in NBA lore.
Earned his MBA while on the injured list and later as a scout for West.
Became a valued assistant GM to West.
Took the reins from West after he retired in 2000.
Figured out how to find bargain basement players to fill out the roster in the face of Dr. Buss' very difficult cost-conscious directives in the Shaq-Kobe era.
Did the hard task of a reasonable rebuild in the mid-2000s just as more and more corporate conglomerates were taking over team ownership throughout the league.
Traded for hidden gems in Shannon Brown and Trevor Ariza.
Traded Kwame Brown and change for Pau Gasol.
Turned difficult negotiations for Trevor Ariza into FA signing of Ron Artest.
Retained services of Lamar Odom at reduced price.
Negotiated Chris Paul trade with Pau Gasol at near peak value and for savings of $20 million on salary cap over time, only to have deal rejected by other owners in controversial move.
Recovered to negotiate trade for Dwight Howard dealing only Andrew Bynum and minor assets.
Negotiated trade for Steve Nash to team with Howard (albeit for loss of multiple draft picks).
Drafted above value with picks for Jordan Clarkson, Larry Nance, Jr., and Ivica Zubac.
Drafted D'Angelo Russell over Jahlil Okafor (though missed Porzingis).
Was Mitch a perfect GM? Of course not - there is no such thing. Even the great Jerry West missed some hidden gems in the draft.
But FAR more often than not, Mitch made the best possible deals for this franchise and helped maintain its growth and success in changing times. Mitch was a loyal member of the team, both on and off the court. The last few years will and should be viewed in the context of devoted and exemplary service over the course of FOUR DECADES.
There was a saying around here for years: "Do it, Mitch!"
You did it, sir. And we were lucky to have you.
THANK YOU, MITCH.
MIM
You have the right to state your disagreement. Do so, or not, either choice does me no harm.
But I will gladly and strongly disagree with anyone who says Mitch Kupchak was the worst General Manager this team ever had.
MIM
You won't have to exert any such effort "MIM". Just let it go..
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:24 pm Post subject: Re: Statement from Mitch Kupchak
CaliRyderX wrote:
MJST wrote:
Statement from Mitch:
Quote:
I would like to thank the Buss family for 36 incredible years. In particular I would like to acknowledge Dr. Buss who brought me here as a player in 1981. I also want to thank every Laker player, coach and staff member with whom I have worked and who supported me through the good times and the very few not so good times. I am most disappointed that I won't have the opportunity to continue to work with Luke and watch this young and talented team grow and eventually win in the Laker tradition. Finally, my best wishes to Earvin Johnson and the Laker organization going forward.
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:27 pm Post subject:
What year did Mitch Kupchak become GM? I'm confused. I'm now reading it was 1994. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:42 pm Post subject: Re: Statement from Mitch Kupchak
MJST wrote:
Statement from Mitch:
Quote:
I would like to thank the Buss family for 36 incredible years. In particular I would like to acknowledge Dr. Buss who brought me here as a player in 1981. I also want to thank every Laker player, coach and staff member with whom I have worked and who supported me through the good times and the very few not so good times. I am most disappointed that I won't have the opportunity to continue to work with Luke and watch this young and talented team grow and eventually win in the Laker tradition. Finally, my best wishes to Earvin Johnson and the Laker organization going forward.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5Son_oUMAAcMPx.jpg
Jury was out for me on Jim Buss, but I've always had respect for Mitch's work. Pau Gasol for Kwah-May Brown. Need I say more. _________________ "We might have had the worst season ever or could have the worst season ever for a Lakers team, but now let's have the greatest comeback that the league has ever seen." - Kobe Bryant
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:43 pm Post subject: Re: Statement from Mitch Kupchak
LakersChamps04 wrote:
CaliRyderX wrote:
MJST wrote:
Statement from Mitch:
Quote:
I would like to thank the Buss family for 36 incredible years. In particular I would like to acknowledge Dr. Buss who brought me here as a player in 1981. I also want to thank every Laker player, coach and staff member with whom I have worked and who supported me through the good times and the very few not so good times. I am most disappointed that I won't have the opportunity to continue to work with Luke and watch this young and talented team grow and eventually win in the Laker tradition. Finally, my best wishes to Earvin Johnson and the Laker organization going forward.
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:46 pm Post subject: Re: Statement from Mitch Kupchak
MIMLaker wrote:
CaliRyderX wrote:
Good Riddance to you and Jim Buss as shot callers. You were without question the worst GM the Lakers have had.
I have no hate for you, but I strongly disagree with your assessment.
You have the right to your opinion within the Rules of this Board.
As do I. Here's mine, from an earlier post.
Quote:
Mitch Kupchak gave everything he had to this franchise.
Came as a free agent from Washington to be Kareem's backup.
Fought through a ton of knee injuries.
Literally fought with Akeem Olajuwon in the desperation Game 5 of the 1986 WCF and got both of them thrown out of the game... a pawn-for-queen gambit which is legendary in NBA lore.
Earned his MBA while on the injured list and later as a scout for West.
Became a valued assistant GM to West.
Took the reins from West after he retired in 2000.
Figured out how to find bargain basement players to fill out the roster in the face of Dr. Buss' very difficult cost-conscious directives in the Shaq-Kobe era.
Did the hard task of a reasonable rebuild in the mid-2000s just as more and more corporate conglomerates were taking over team ownership throughout the league.
Traded for hidden gems in Shannon Brown and Trevor Ariza.
Traded Kwame Brown and change for Pau Gasol.
Turned difficult negotiations for Trevor Ariza into FA signing of Ron Artest.
Retained services of Lamar Odom at reduced price.
Negotiated Chris Paul trade with Pau Gasol at near peak value and for savings of $20 million on salary cap over time, only to have deal rejected by other owners in controversial move.
Recovered to negotiate trade for Dwight Howard dealing only Andrew Bynum and minor assets.
Negotiated trade for Steve Nash to team with Howard (albeit for loss of multiple draft picks).
Drafted above value with picks for Jordan Clarkson, Larry Nance, Jr., and Ivica Zubac.
Drafted D'Angelo Russell over Jahlil Okafor (though missed Porzingis).
Was Mitch a perfect GM? Of course not - there is no such thing. Even the great Jerry West missed some hidden gems in the draft.
But FAR more often than not, Mitch made the best possible deals for this franchise and helped maintain its growth and success in changing times. Mitch was a loyal member of the team, both on and off the court. The last few years will and should be viewed in the context of devoted and exemplary service over the course of FOUR DECADES.
There was a saying around here for years: "Do it, Mitch!"
You did it, sir. And we were lucky to have you.
THANK YOU, MITCH.
MIM
You have the right to state your disagreement. Do so, or not, either choice does me no harm.
But I will gladly and strongly disagree with anyone who says Mitch Kupchak was the worst General Manager this team ever had.
MIM
Quality post here. _________________ "We might have had the worst season ever or could have the worst season ever for a Lakers team, but now let's have the greatest comeback that the league has ever seen." - Kobe Bryant
He's a class act. He never lashed. He took the hits. At times he seemed like a freaking robot (or at least a Vulcan), completely devoid or emotion or ego.
It will be interesting to see how Magic responds to criticism. It's coming, Magic. There will be downs, not just ups. Don't fool yourself. Some of us still remember your disastrous coaching tenure. Just because we loved you on he court doesn't mean you get a pass. Good luck, and watch your back, jack.
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:57 pm Post subject: Re: Statement from Mitch Kupchak
LakeShow06 wrote:
MIMLaker wrote:
CaliRyderX wrote:
Good Riddance to you and Jim Buss as shot callers. You were without question the worst GM the Lakers have had.
I have no hate for you, but I strongly disagree with your assessment.
You have the right to your opinion within the Rules of this Board.
As do I. Here's mine, from an earlier post.
Quote:
Mitch Kupchak gave everything he had to this franchise.
Came as a free agent from Washington to be Kareem's backup.
Fought through a ton of knee injuries.
Literally fought with Akeem Olajuwon in the desperation Game 5 of the 1986 WCF and got both of them thrown out of the game... a pawn-for-queen gambit which is legendary in NBA lore.
Earned his MBA while on the injured list and later as a scout for West.
Became a valued assistant GM to West.
Took the reins from West after he retired in 2000.
Figured out how to find bargain basement players to fill out the roster in the face of Dr. Buss' very difficult cost-conscious directives in the Shaq-Kobe era.
Did the hard task of a reasonable rebuild in the mid-2000s just as more and more corporate conglomerates were taking over team ownership throughout the league.
Traded for hidden gems in Shannon Brown and Trevor Ariza.
Traded Kwame Brown and change for Pau Gasol.
Turned difficult negotiations for Trevor Ariza into FA signing of Ron Artest.
Retained services of Lamar Odom at reduced price.
Negotiated Chris Paul trade with Pau Gasol at near peak value and for savings of $20 million on salary cap over time, only to have deal rejected by other owners in controversial move.
Recovered to negotiate trade for Dwight Howard dealing only Andrew Bynum and minor assets.
Negotiated trade for Steve Nash to team with Howard (albeit for loss of multiple draft picks).
Drafted above value with picks for Jordan Clarkson, Larry Nance, Jr., and Ivica Zubac.
Drafted D'Angelo Russell over Jahlil Okafor (though missed Porzingis).
Was Mitch a perfect GM? Of course not - there is no such thing. Even the great Jerry West missed some hidden gems in the draft.
But FAR more often than not, Mitch made the best possible deals for this franchise and helped maintain its growth and success in changing times. Mitch was a loyal member of the team, both on and off the court. The last few years will and should be viewed in the context of devoted and exemplary service over the course of FOUR DECADES.
There was a saying around here for years: "Do it, Mitch!"
You did it, sir. And we were lucky to have you.
THANK YOU, MITCH.
MIM
You have the right to state your disagreement. Do so, or not, either choice does me no harm.
But I will gladly and strongly disagree with anyone who says Mitch Kupchak was the worst General Manager this team ever had.
MIM
Quality post here.
Just as long as Mitch/Jim stay out of Magic and Jeanie's way, any random person can submit as many "quality posts" as they want. The end result will still be the same...no more Mitch!
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 3:04 pm Post subject: Re: Statement from Mitch Kupchak
CaliRyderX wrote:
rajamatazz wrote:
CaliRyderX wrote:
MJST wrote:
Statement from Mitch:
Quote:
I would like to thank the Buss family for 36 incredible years. In particular I would like to acknowledge Dr. Buss who brought me here as a player in 1981. I also want to thank every Laker player, coach and staff member with whom I have worked and who supported me through the good times and the very few not so good times. I am most disappointed that I won't have the opportunity to continue to work with Luke and watch this young and talented team grow and eventually win in the Laker tradition. Finally, my best wishes to Earvin Johnson and the Laker organization going forward.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5Son_oUMAAcMPx.jpg
Good Riddance to you and Jim Buss as shot callers. You were without question the worst GM the Lakers have had.
What??
This place needs an ignore button...
What gall, LOL. This place needs an ignore button because God forbid in a public forum a person is choosing to voice their opinion? Get a life.
I kinda have to agree. Some opinions are just not worth reading. Especially when they appear to be written by someone overly emotional and with no understanding or grip on reality of both the bad and the good of what Mitch did for this franchise.
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 3:05 pm Post subject:
danzag wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
What year did Mitch Kupchak become GM? I'm confused. I'm now reading it was 1994.
Assistant GM from 1986-2000
GM from 2000-2017
So why do people credit Jerry West instead of Mitch for the threepeat? Was he only a titular GM while West actually ran things? _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 3:09 pm Post subject: Re: Statement from Mitch Kupchak
CaliRyderX wrote:
MJST wrote:
Statement from Mitch:
Quote:
I would like to thank the Buss family for 36 incredible years. In particular I would like to acknowledge Dr. Buss who brought me here as a player in 1981. I also want to thank every Laker player, coach and staff member with whom I have worked and who supported me through the good times and the very few not so good times. I am most disappointed that I won't have the opportunity to continue to work with Luke and watch this young and talented team grow and eventually win in the Laker tradition. Finally, my best wishes to Earvin Johnson and the Laker organization going forward.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5Son_oUMAAcMPx.jpg
What year did Mitch Kupchak become GM? I'm confused. I'm now reading it was 1994.
Assistant GM from 1986-2000
GM from 2000-2017
So why do people credit Jerry West instead of Mitch for the threepeat? Was he only a titular GM while West actually ran things?
Think of it like Andrew Friedman and Farhan Zaidi. Only one of them is the GM (Zaidi), but they make decisions together. Mitch was the GM in '94, but clearly nothing was getting done without West's approval first.
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 3:11 pm Post subject: Re: Statement from Mitch Kupchak
CaliRyderX wrote:
rajamatazz wrote:
CaliRyderX wrote:
MJST wrote:
Statement from Mitch:
Quote:
I would like to thank the Buss family for 36 incredible years. In particular I would like to acknowledge Dr. Buss who brought me here as a player in 1981. I also want to thank every Laker player, coach and staff member with whom I have worked and who supported me through the good times and the very few not so good times. I am most disappointed that I won't have the opportunity to continue to work with Luke and watch this young and talented team grow and eventually win in the Laker tradition. Finally, my best wishes to Earvin Johnson and the Laker organization going forward.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5Son_oUMAAcMPx.jpg
The main reasons we even got in this hole is because, The CP3 trade that got Vetoed and kobe injuring his Achilles, if kobe stays healthy that year the way he was playing maybe they're able to take out the Spurs in the first round and win it all. _________________
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 3:19 pm Post subject: Re: Statement from Mitch Kupchak
Big Game James wrote:
CaliRyderX wrote:
rajamatazz wrote:
CaliRyderX wrote:
MJST wrote:
Statement from Mitch:
Quote:
I would like to thank the Buss family for 36 incredible years. In particular I would like to acknowledge Dr. Buss who brought me here as a player in 1981. I also want to thank every Laker player, coach and staff member with whom I have worked and who supported me through the good times and the very few not so good times. I am most disappointed that I won't have the opportunity to continue to work with Luke and watch this young and talented team grow and eventually win in the Laker tradition. Finally, my best wishes to Earvin Johnson and the Laker organization going forward.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5Son_oUMAAcMPx.jpg
Good Riddance to you and Jim Buss as shot callers. You were without question the worst GM the Lakers have had.
What??
This place needs an ignore button...
What gall, LOL. This place needs an ignore button because God forbid in a public forum a person is choosing to voice their opinion? Get a life.
I kinda have to agree. Some opinions are just not worth reading. Especially when they appear to be written by someone overly emotional and with no understanding or grip on reality of both the bad and the good of what Mitch did for this franchise.
Whenever there are changes in the front office (of any team), it always seems the new guys want to prove themselves in some big way... I sort of wonder if Luke will be allowed to have that young core to grow with him... _________________ “Love is the force that ignites the spirit and binds teams together.” - Phil Jackson
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 3:58 pm Post subject: Re: Statement from Mitch Kupchak
LakersChamps04 wrote:
CaliRyderX wrote:
MJST wrote:
Statement from Mitch:
Quote:
I would like to thank the Buss family for 36 incredible years. In particular I would like to acknowledge Dr. Buss who brought me here as a player in 1981. I also want to thank every Laker player, coach and staff member with whom I have worked and who supported me through the good times and the very few not so good times. I am most disappointed that I won't have the opportunity to continue to work with Luke and watch this young and talented team grow and eventually win in the Laker tradition. Finally, my best wishes to Earvin Johnson and the Laker organization going forward.
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If I didn't see that the OP joined in 2009, I would have sworn
this was a troll post in terms of absurdity.
Bye.
I'm neither the op or a troll. And my statement wasn't absurd, it was my opinion.
It is like the worst opinion on the LG forums in like FOREVER!
Honestly, 5 championships as a GM is the most since pre-Cali Lakers.
And the only reason he is out now is that Jim Buss is a freakin idiot and thankfully he is gone as he is the worst Owner in the History of the Lakers. _________________ This Laker Organization has not yet hit bottom. It is moving there quickly, and I suspect this year we will see zero talent coming to the Lakers and we will trade away Kuz and BI for old vets in the hopes of giving LeBronze some scapegoats.
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I'm neither the op or a troll. And my statement wasn't absurd, it was my opinion.
