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Four Decade Bandwagon Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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I like the trade. Going to be interesting to see if Ennis will contribute when given mpg. Which I expect him to get a few every game.
Only 22yrs old. Read his scouting report. Smart low turnover PG that works hard and has leadership intangibles. Not athletic but decent defender. Very good bbiq helps him run the P&R.
Not sure how this is bad in any way except he is not George.
Even if this guy fails how is it a bad thing to give a former #18 pick a 24 game tryout? |
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AC Green's V-Card Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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nash wrote: | If you saw me bringing Farmar name is because they share about the same advanced stats at the same age, no love, no hate, just numbers. |
Which advanced stats are you comparing them at the same age? Also, do you believe it's a one-to-one comparison to compare a bench player to a starter? |
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Runway8 Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | I like the trade. Going to be interesting to see if Ennis will contribute when given mpg. Which I expect him to get a few every game.
Only 22yrs old. Read his scouting report. Smart low turnover PG that works hard and has leadership intangibles. Not athletic but decent defender. Very good bbiq helps him run the P&R.
Not sure how this is bad in any way except he is not George.
Even if this guy fails how is it a bad thing to give a former #18 pick a 24 game tryout? |
Young player, former 1st rd, still hasn't broken through, low risk, high reward... These are the types of finds we would give Mitch props for especially if they pan out. So good job Magic Pelinka!
BTW, Rockets do this all the time. Had to decided between Kyle and Dragic, then Dragic and Lin, then Lin and Beverley. They had to let Tarik Black go, now letting Ennis go.
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MJST Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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He's an actual point guard and can shoot the ball.
So he'll run the offense in the system Luke wants just fine at backup 1 and it prevents Clarkson from shooting 20 times because we have an actual backup 1 now.
Will fit the offense.
Don't expect him to be a savior but I expect him to be able to do what would have been expected of Calderon had he kept the backup 1 role. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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AC Green's V-Card wrote: | nash wrote: | If you saw me bringing Farmar name is because they share about the same advanced stats at the same age, no love, no hate, just numbers. |
Which advanced stats are you comparing them at the same age? Also, do you believe it's a one-to-one comparison to compare a bench player to a starter? |
I don't think age was used as a factor. It's this ongoing ruse to show "objectivity." I frankly appreciate candor. If you don't like the kid, just say it. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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cmonkee Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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Funny thought - bringing Ennis on board could help Clarkson get his groove back. Jordan could have a chip on his shoulder thinking that Ennis, who was drafted ahead of him (#18 whereas Clarkson was #46), is not only now on his team but also could be stealing his minutes! Better work on that defense by shutting him down in practice and prove the scouts wrong by demonstrating that he has the "pure point guard" skills that the scouts said Ennis had |
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Laker_Town Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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Goodbye frodo |
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The Logo Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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3peat_pete wrote: | VanCity wrote: | kobe_luver wrote: | nash wrote: | Guy is a bust, tank move. |
How is he a tank move? He can't be worse than Huertas! |
Oh actually he can! |
QFT
Huertas can play make. Ennis haz zero skills. |
If he can't he'll just take Huertas' spot on the bench and not return next year. NBD |
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tox Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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AC Green's V-Card wrote: | nash wrote: | If you saw me bringing Farmar name is because they share about the same advanced stats at the same age, no love, no hate, just numbers. |
Which advanced stats are you comparing them at the same age? Also, do you believe it's a one-to-one comparison to compare a bench player to a starter? | Farmar plateaued his 2nd year when he was 21 and put up very solid advanced #s. Of course he was playing against opposing benches and off of Kobe a lot so situations are a tad different. |
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The Logo Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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tox wrote: | AC Green's V-Card wrote: | nash wrote: | If you saw me bringing Farmar name is because they share about the same advanced stats at the same age, no love, no hate, just numbers. |
Which advanced stats are you comparing them at the same age? Also, do you believe it's a one-to-one comparison to compare a bench player to a starter? | Farmar plateaued his 2nd year when he was 21 and put up very solid advanced #s. Of course he was playing against opposing benches and off of Kobe a lot so situations are a tad different. |
B-but Farmar averaged 16/4/5 on 46% shooting per 36 minutes! |
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KindCrippler2000 Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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I assume Ennis replaces Lou in the depth chart?
Russell-Young-Ingram-Randle-Black
Ennis-Clarkson-Deng-Nance-Zubac
If Ennis is able to generate good looks for Clarkson and Zubac, second unit might end up outperforming the first again. All 5 guys can space the floor. Prefer to move Zubac to the first unit. |
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bonkers Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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KindCrippler2000 wrote: | I assume Ennis replaces Lou in the depth chart?
Russell-Young-Ingram-Randle-Black
Ennis-Clarkson-Deng-Nance-Zubac
If Ennis is able to generate good looks for Clarkson and Zubac, second unit might end up outperforming the first again. All 5 guys can space the floor. Prefer to move Zubac to the first unit. |
Ideally I'd like to see this, but I have a feeling Brewer is taking Lou's spot and Ennis will be 3rd string |
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BigGameHames Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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KindCrippler2000 wrote: | I assume Ennis replaces Lou in the depth chart?
Russell-Young-Ingram-Randle-Black
Ennis-Clarkson-Deng-Nance-Zubac
If Ennis is able to generate good looks for Clarkson and Zubac, second unit might end up outperforming the first again. All 5 guys can space the floor. Prefer to move Zubac to the first unit. |
Again? The myth that the bench outplayed the starters for the first half of the year was disproven already |
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tox Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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The Logo wrote: | tox wrote: | AC Green's V-Card wrote: | nash wrote: | If you saw me bringing Farmar name is because they share about the same advanced stats at the same age, no love, no hate, just numbers. |
Which advanced stats are you comparing them at the same age? Also, do you believe it's a one-to-one comparison to compare a bench player to a starter? | Farmar plateaued his 2nd year when he was 21 and put up very solid advanced #s. Of course he was playing against opposing benches and off of Kobe a lot so situations are a tad different. |
B-but Farmar averaged 16/4/5 on 46% shooting per 36 minutes! | I mean he was good his 2nd year, lol. If he kept improving he'd have been legit starting caliber, but he never did. |
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The Logo Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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tox wrote: | The Logo wrote: | tox wrote: | AC Green's V-Card wrote: | nash wrote: | If you saw me bringing Farmar name is because they share about the same advanced stats at the same age, no love, no hate, just numbers. |
Which advanced stats are you comparing them at the same age? Also, do you believe it's a one-to-one comparison to compare a bench player to a starter? | Farmar plateaued his 2nd year when he was 21 and put up very solid advanced #s. Of course he was playing against opposing benches and off of Kobe a lot so situations are a tad different. |
B-but Farmar averaged 16/4/5 on 46% shooting per 36 minutes! | I mean he was good his 2nd year, lol. If he kept improving he'd have been legit starting caliber, but he never did. |
Nah I know lol, hey at least we went from Marshall to Farmar. Progress. |
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adkindo Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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MJST wrote: | He's an actual point guard and can shoot the ball.
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not a very good shooter so far in career...only made 6 three pointers this year and shoots under 32% for career |
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adkindo Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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BigGameHames wrote: | KindCrippler2000 wrote: | I assume Ennis replaces Lou in the depth chart?
Russell-Young-Ingram-Randle-Black
Ennis-Clarkson-Deng-Nance-Zubac
If Ennis is able to generate good looks for Clarkson and Zubac, second unit might end up outperforming the first again. All 5 guys can space the floor. Prefer to move Zubac to the first unit. |
Again? The myth that the bench outplayed the starters for the first half of the year was disproven already |
I didn't see that? How was it proved? |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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The Logo wrote: | tox wrote: | The Logo wrote: | tox wrote: | AC Green's V-Card wrote: | nash wrote: | If you saw me bringing Farmar name is because they share about the same advanced stats at the same age, no love, no hate, just numbers. |
Which advanced stats are you comparing them at the same age? Also, do you believe it's a one-to-one comparison to compare a bench player to a starter? | Farmar plateaued his 2nd year when he was 21 and put up very solid advanced #s. Of course he was playing against opposing benches and off of Kobe a lot so situations are a tad different. |
B-but Farmar averaged 16/4/5 on 46% shooting per 36 minutes! | I mean he was good his 2nd year, lol. If he kept improving he'd have been legit starting caliber, but he never did. |
Nah I know lol, hey at least we went from Marshall to Farmar. Progress. |
Okafor to Porzingis.
Kendall Marshall to Fisher to Farmar.
Progress. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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bonkers Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | The Logo wrote: | tox wrote: | The Logo wrote: | tox wrote: | AC Green's V-Card wrote: | nash wrote: | If you saw me bringing Farmar name is because they share about the same advanced stats at the same age, no love, no hate, just numbers. |
Which advanced stats are you comparing them at the same age? Also, do you believe it's a one-to-one comparison to compare a bench player to a starter? | Farmar plateaued his 2nd year when he was 21 and put up very solid advanced #s. Of course he was playing against opposing benches and off of Kobe a lot so situations are a tad different. |
B-but Farmar averaged 16/4/5 on 46% shooting per 36 minutes! | I mean he was good his 2nd year, lol. If he kept improving he'd have been legit starting caliber, but he never did. |
Nah I know lol, hey at least we went from Marshall to Farmar. Progress. |
Okafor to Porzingis.
Kendall Marshall to Fisher to Farmar.
Progress. |
Took a couple of steps back when I saw Smush's name though |
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KindCrippler2000 Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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BigGameHames wrote: | KindCrippler2000 wrote: | I assume Ennis replaces Lou in the depth chart?
Russell-Young-Ingram-Randle-Black
Ennis-Clarkson-Deng-Nance-Zubac
If Ennis is able to generate good looks for Clarkson and Zubac, second unit might end up outperforming the first again. All 5 guys can space the floor. Prefer to move Zubac to the first unit. |
Again? The myth that the bench outplayed the starters for the first half of the year was disproven already |
Um, what?
https://twitter.com/ESPNStatsInfo/status/834357075136372736 |
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danzag Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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Don't fool yourselves. He's bad.
But he's on a expiring, so he's probably leaving next summer. He won't have to unpack his bags. |
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adkindo Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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KindCrippler2000 wrote: | BigGameHames wrote: | KindCrippler2000 wrote: | I assume Ennis replaces Lou in the depth chart?
Russell-Young-Ingram-Randle-Black
Ennis-Clarkson-Deng-Nance-Zubac
If Ennis is able to generate good looks for Clarkson and Zubac, second unit might end up outperforming the first again. All 5 guys can space the floor. Prefer to move Zubac to the first unit. |
Again? The myth that the bench outplayed the starters for the first half of the year was disproven already |
Um, what?
https://twitter.com/ESPNStatsInfo/status/834357075136372736 |
thats what I was thinking....and Lou played a lot of minutes against other teams starters....Lou was the key to our bench production, but the numbers still say our bench produced |
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adkindo Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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danzag wrote: | Don't fool yourselves. He's bad.
But he's on a expiring, so he's probably leaving next summer. He won't have to unpack his bags. |
I don't know...I would....no reason to always wear wrinkled clothes |
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Stumpy25 Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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Ziggy wrote: | MDA can turn Huertas into Nash overnight. Good fit for them. |
He just can't shoot which is going to drive him crazy. |
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