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Cutheon
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| He's bad. I don't know why anyone would be unsure about that. |
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pio2u
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| Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:12 am Post subject: |
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| KOBE WAN wrote: | | KindCrippler2000 wrote: | | His drive game is starting to impress. Also impressed with his PG skills. Still needs to be evaluated on other fronts. If he gets the outside shot down, I can see him staying on the roster next season. |
I was at the game tonight
He can drive and finish and is quick |
He MAY be our 3rd string pg of the future.  |
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tox
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| Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Do I have to take back all the times I called him a scrub or is this just a fluke? |
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Inspector Gadget
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| Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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| tox wrote: | | Do I have to take back all the times I called him a scrub or is this just a fluke? |
I wanna agree with you but Bazemore was just like Ennis and when he got PT he went on to be a real solid player... I believe in Ennis if Bazemore can do it so can Ennis. |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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| tox wrote: | | Do I have to take back all the times I called him a scrub or is this just a fluke? |
Need more data.
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tox
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| Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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| City_Dawg wrote: | | tox wrote: | | Do I have to take back all the times I called him a scrub or is this just a fluke? |
Need more data. |
Ya he's been trash tonight pretty much since I made that post |
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The Logo
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| Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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| On some possessions he looks like a competent second string PG, on other possession he looks like a competent second string PG in the D-League |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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I think Ennis would make a fine backup point guard for us. Would also take some iso out of Clarkson's hands and he can move off ball.
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WeDidItReddit
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| Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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| I wonder how he must feel knowing that we play him because we know he sucks |
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KindCrippler2000
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| Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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| The Logo wrote: | | On some possessions he looks like a competent second string PG, on other possession he looks like a competent second string PG in the D-League |
He's not comfortable settling for the long ball and is almost entirely dependent on his drive/dish game. Even though he lacks confidence in his jumper, I think he has a chance of being a rotation player if he gets that midrange / three-point shot down. IMO, he has upside at 22 and improvement is inevitable. I'm looking forward to seeing how he finishes the season. I'm guessing he'll improve in enough areas to warrant another look at him next season. I think he's too good for the d-league tbh. |
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The Logo
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| Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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| KindCrippler2000 wrote: | | The Logo wrote: | | On some possessions he looks like a competent second string PG, on other possession he looks like a competent second string PG in the D-League |
He's not comfortable settling for the long ball and is almost entirely dependent on his drive/dish game. Even though he lacks confidence in his jumper, I think he has a chance of being a rotation player if he gets that midrange / three-point shot down. IMO, he has upside at 22 and improvement is inevitable. I'm looking forward to seeing how he finishes the season. I'm guessing he'll improve in enough areas to warrant another look at him next season. I think he's too good for the d-league tbh. |
His jumper is part of the issue but he also over penetrates and dribbles too much. While Clarkson is culpurable to this at least JC makes it up with his ability to score. He isn't completely awful on some possessions but he's also prone to making dumb mistakes |
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Cutheon
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| Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:02 am Post subject: |
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| tox wrote: | | City_Dawg wrote: | | tox wrote: | | Do I have to take back all the times I called him a scrub or is this just a fluke? |
Need more data. |
Ya he's been trash tonight pretty much since I made that post |
He's very obviously a bad basketball player. At his best (absolute, utter best), he's a competent back-up pg. At his worst, he's out of the league. He's a 3rd-string PG - no more, no less. I think it's pretty clear that his "success" comes from the fact that no team will ever spend a second scouting him, nor try that hard when they are playing us. The second a team locks in, or a coach musters just enough effort to key a player into his tendencies, he's a 0. |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:02 am Post subject: |
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| Cutheon wrote: | | tox wrote: | | City_Dawg wrote: | | tox wrote: | | Do I have to take back all the times I called him a scrub or is this just a fluke? |
Need more data. |
Ya he's been trash tonight pretty much since I made that post |
He's very obviously a bad basketball player. At his best (absolute, utter best), he's a competent back-up pg. At his worst, he's out of the league. He's a 3rd-string PG - no more, no less. I think it's pretty clear that his "success" comes from the fact that no team will ever spend a second scouting him, nor try that hard when they are playing us. The second a team locks in, or a coach musters just enough effort to key a player into his tendencies, he's a 0. |
Sounds like what people were saying about 3rd year Seth Curry.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:32 am Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | | Cutheon wrote: | | tox wrote: | | City_Dawg wrote: | | tox wrote: | | Do I have to take back all the times I called him a scrub or is this just a fluke? |
Need more data. |
Ya he's been trash tonight pretty much since I made that post |
He's very obviously a bad basketball player. At his best (absolute, utter best), he's a competent back-up pg. At his worst, he's out of the league. He's a 3rd-string PG - no more, no less. I think it's pretty clear that his "success" comes from the fact that no team will ever spend a second scouting him, nor try that hard when they are playing us. The second a team locks in, or a coach musters just enough effort to key a player into his tendencies, he's a 0. |
Sounds like what people were saying about 3rd year Seth Curry. |
If Seth Curry couldn't shoot like Seth Curry. Ennis has Huertas upside. |
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tox
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| Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:15 am Post subject: |
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| Cutheon wrote: | | tox wrote: | | City_Dawg wrote: | | tox wrote: | | Do I have to take back all the times I called him a scrub or is this just a fluke? |
Need more data. |
Ya he's been trash tonight pretty much since I made that post |
He's very obviously a bad basketball player. At his best (absolute, utter best), he's a competent back-up pg. At his worst, he's out of the league. He's a 3rd-string PG - no more, no less. I think it's pretty clear that his "success" comes from the fact that no team will ever spend a second scouting him, nor try that hard when they are playing us. The second a team locks in, or a coach musters just enough effort to key a player into his tendencies, he's a 0. |
That's a fair assessment. |
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pio2u
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| Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:54 am Post subject: |
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| WeDidItReddit wrote: | | I wonder how he must feel knowing that we play him because we know he sucks |
He makes 1.7 mil per year so I'm quite sure that his feelings are far from hurt. |
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JM
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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| He looks pretty good tonight. |
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pio2u
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| TE has been playing solid these last few games in limited minutes. He may work himself into a job as a solid back-up/3rd team role with this team. |
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The Logo
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Actually wouldn't mind if he's an invite. As much as I gave him flack earlier in the season, he's shown enough to warrant a camp invite at the very least. Depends a lot on whether he can make better decisions and if he develops his shot from three. |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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| pio2u wrote: | | TE has been playing solid these last few games in limited minutes. He may work himself into a job as a solid back-up/3rd team role with this team. |
I agree. |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Remember, we can only offer him up to $2.6 Million next season....and I think a team will offer him more...he is only 22 years old and has enough raw ability, someone will likely be intrigued by him. |
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pio2u
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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| adkindo wrote: | | Remember, we can only offer him up to $2.6 Million next season....and I think a team will offer him more...he is only 22 years old and has enough raw ability, someone will likely be intrigued by him. |
maybe, maybe not  |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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| pio2u wrote: | | WeDidItReddit wrote: | | I wonder how he must feel knowing that we play him because we know he sucks |
He makes 1.7 mil per year so I'm quite sure that his feelings are far from hurt. |
A good game from him is his way of sticking it to the Lakers |
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| pio2u wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | Remember, we can only offer him up to $2.6 Million next season....and I think a team will offer him more...he is only 22 years old and has enough raw ability, someone will likely be intrigued by him. |
maybe, maybe not |
I am not against keeping him...I think he could actually develop much more, and become a solid backup...not sure why some want to run a 22 year old out of the league....we know he is skilled....just dont want to plan on it then being disappointed when someone signs him for $2.9 Million. These are the guys you want as 3rd stringers....guys that could play a few minutes if needed, but young enough with enough raw ability that they could develop into something more...every once in a while you might get lucky and they develop into something much more. |
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KindCrippler2000
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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| adkindo wrote: | | pio2u wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | Remember, we can only offer him up to $2.6 Million next season....and I think a team will offer him more...he is only 22 years old and has enough raw ability, someone will likely be intrigued by him. |
maybe, maybe not |
I am not against keeping him...I think he could actually develop much more, and become a solid backup...not sure why some want to run a 22 year old out of the league....we know he is skilled....just dont want to plan on it then being disappointed when someone signs him for $2.9 Million. These are the guys you want as 3rd stringers....guys that could play a few minutes if needed, but young enough with enough raw ability that they could develop into something more...every once in a while you might get lucky and they develop into something much more. |
Been saying for a while that he still needs to be evaluated. Until they find a better second or third string PG, Ennis will probably stay on the roster. Hell, they will be fishing for a good 1st string PG in this upcoming draft, so what's the rush? Kyler has arguably played the best ball of his career these last 3 games. At 22 years of age, he's got plenty of room to grow as well. Management would be crazy to not see where it goes. I'm def rooting for him. Of course, all bets are off if the Lakers are having a firesale this summer. |
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