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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 5:18 pm    Post subject:

Tyler seemed to really, really want to be back and I think the feeling is mutual. Tyler is steady -- as time went on I became very, very comfortable when the ball was in his hands.

I hope he stays. I very, very much doubt he'd command a very big contract at this point.
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We need to keep Ennis for when we eventually trade JC. If we can get even 75% of the production of JC for only a fraction of JC's contract, you have to do it. Even if it's a gamble, it wouldn't be an expensive one. If $3M is what it takes to keep him, I'd do it.

People were ecstatic over signing JC to a $12.5M per year contract as if it was some bargain. I didn't agree then and now after a full season I feel more strongly about it. It's more in the "fair to slight overpay" range. Ennis is even 2 years younger than JC. The fanbase seems to be penny wise, pound foolish.

If FO wants to be aggressive, I think JC and Randle should be moved this summer. They both have value but Randle will not be worth what he is due to get. Ennis will be a nice backup. It seems he has found the right fit for his game to flourish.


I tend to agree. I think Clarkson is a borderline starter and Rsndle may be a future near star or star, but they don't fit stylistically.


Agree. I think JC is pretty close to his ceiling. He's a serviceable player, just a bit too ball dominant for what we're trying to run. His porous defense is what prevents him from being a starter in this league. It's a similar situation to Monta Ellis in Golden State. Got a 2nd round steal, but I think time to move on. Ennis can step into JC's role right away, at a much cheaper contract and 2 years younger.


JC is a much better player than Ennis, and his contract is still considered a value around the league.....that is why so many teams call about him. I think Ennis has played well, and I am not opposed to moving Clarkson if it improves the team, but I am not moving Clarkson because I feel Tyler Ennis can fill his shoes....because at this point, he simply can't.


I don't know about "much better". He doesn't have to fill JC's shoes. Like I said, if he's even 75% of JC at only 25% of the cost ($12.5M per vs. $3M), then you have to keep him. I never said he was equal or better than JC. I think he's close enough, and possibly on a much cheaper deal.

But I do believe he's a better fit if he can continue to shoot 38%+ from 3. I was in full on tank mode so I was frustrated watching this guy play as well as he did .
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:59 pm    Post subject:

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Tyler seemed to really, really want to be back and I think the feeling is mutual. Tyler is steady -- as time went on I became very, very comfortable when the ball was in his hands.

I hope he stays. I very, very much doubt he'd command a very big contract at this point.


This goes along with what I was saying earlier about Ennis staying with the Lakers instead of taking a potentially bigger contract elsewhere.

He said that Luke was the first NBA coach he has had who let him call his own plays. I am not sure he would give up the relative sure thing of playing time for the Lakers under Luke vs. the unknown of a new coach who may not even play him.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:00 pm    Post subject:

Ziggy wrote:
adkindo wrote:
Ziggy wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
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We need to keep Ennis for when we eventually trade JC. If we can get even 75% of the production of JC for only a fraction of JC's contract, you have to do it. Even if it's a gamble, it wouldn't be an expensive one. If $3M is what it takes to keep him, I'd do it.

People were ecstatic over signing JC to a $12.5M per year contract as if it was some bargain. I didn't agree then and now after a full season I feel more strongly about it. It's more in the "fair to slight overpay" range. Ennis is even 2 years younger than JC. The fanbase seems to be penny wise, pound foolish.

If FO wants to be aggressive, I think JC and Randle should be moved this summer. They both have value but Randle will not be worth what he is due to get. Ennis will be a nice backup. It seems he has found the right fit for his game to flourish.


I tend to agree. I think Clarkson is a borderline starter and Rsndle may be a future near star or star, but they don't fit stylistically.


Agree. I think JC is pretty close to his ceiling. He's a serviceable player, just a bit too ball dominant for what we're trying to run. His porous defense is what prevents him from being a starter in this league. It's a similar situation to Monta Ellis in Golden State. Got a 2nd round steal, but I think time to move on. Ennis can step into JC's role right away, at a much cheaper contract and 2 years younger.


JC is a much better player than Ennis, and his contract is still considered a value around the league.....that is why so many teams call about him. I think Ennis has played well, and I am not opposed to moving Clarkson if it improves the team, but I am not moving Clarkson because I feel Tyler Ennis can fill his shoes....because at this point, he simply can't.


I don't know about "much better". He doesn't have to fill JC's shoes. Like I said, if he's even 75% of JC at only 25% of the cost ($12.5M per vs. $3M), then you have to keep him. I never said he was equal or better than JC. I think he's close enough, and possibly on a much cheaper deal.

But I do believe he's a better fit if he can continue to shoot 38%+ from 3. I was in full on tank mode so I was frustrated watching this guy play as well as he did .


Agreed. I wasn't a big fan of his at the start, but he just kept on playing better and better the more he got comfortable with his role. Definitely would like to see him back -- will give us cheap flexibility to enable the FO to think about cashing in other assets like JC to plug other roster holes.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:21 pm    Post subject:

One of the things I think that is really underrated about his game is, he's capable of initiating an offense, yet, the ball moves in the halfcourt set. He's not particularly ball dominant really.

That kind of guard is complementary to DAR's skill set.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:16 pm    Post subject:

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Ennis was 39% from three during his time with the Lakers will he be able to keep that up next year if he resgisn?


Probably not, but he's worth another flyer. We can't sign him for a lot, so a two or more year contract with a team option would be ideal.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:13 pm    Post subject:

Tyler Ennis' LA Future Still Uncertain Depending on Draft Lottery Results



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Ennis is set to become an unrestricted free agent this summer after the Rockets opted out of their team option this season as part of his rookie-scale deal. There are rumors that the Lakers could re-sign him in the offseason if the team fails to land a top point guard in this year's draft.



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:53 am    Post subject:

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Tyler Ennis' LA Future Still Uncertain Depending on Draft Lottery Results



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Ennis is set to become an unrestricted free agent this summer after the Rockets opted out of their team option this season as part of his rookie-scale deal. There are rumors that the Lakers could re-sign him in the offseason if the team fails to land a top point guard in this year's draft.



http://www.isportstimes.com/articles/27895/20170416/lakers-rumors-tyler-ennis-la-future-still-uncertain-depending-draft.htm


Stupid article, Ennis would be our back up PG, so why would it matter if we drafted a top point guard or not. You resign him anyway because we have no other back up PG on the roster.
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Dr. Funkbot wrote:
pio2u wrote:
Tyler Ennis' LA Future Still Uncertain Depending on Draft Lottery Results



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Ennis is set to become an unrestricted free agent this summer after the Rockets opted out of their team option this season as part of his rookie-scale deal. There are rumors that the Lakers could re-sign him in the offseason if the team fails to land a top point guard in this year's draft.



http://www.isportstimes.com/articles/27895/20170416/lakers-rumors-tyler-ennis-la-future-still-uncertain-depending-draft.htm


Stupid article, Ennis would be our back up PG, so why would it matter if we drafted a top point guard or not. You resign him anyway because we have no other back up PG on the roster.


No doubt about it IMO
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:12 pm    Post subject:

ch3cky0selff00 wrote:
Tyler seemed to really, really want to be back and I think the feeling is mutual. Tyler is steady -- as time went on I became very, very comfortable when the ball was in his hands.

I hope he stays. I very, very much doubt he'd command a very big contract at this point.


Tyler reminds me of Jordan Farmar. Not that they are similar players, but I feel Ennis could fill similar role as a bench player.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:32 am    Post subject:

mhan00 wrote:
Dilla_ wrote:
Ennis was 39% from three during his time with the Lakers will he be able to keep that up next year if he resgisn?


Probably not, but he's worth another flyer. We can't sign him for a lot, so a two or more year contract with a team option would be ideal.


A small 2 year contract with a 2nd year team option would be ideal.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:20 am    Post subject:

Tyler 'Patty Mills' Ennis
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:23 am    Post subject:

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Tyler 'Patty Mills' Ennis


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oldschool32 wrote:
mhan00 wrote:
Dilla_ wrote:
Ennis was 39% from three during his time with the Lakers will he be able to keep that up next year if he resgisn?


Probably not, but he's worth another flyer. We can't sign him for a lot, so a two or more year contract with a team option would be ideal.


A small 2 year contract with a 2nd year team option would be ideal.


I will give him a 3 year /10m deal with a mutual 3rd year option. He showed he can run the offense in a similar way the starting unit runs it. That exactly was our problem this year when the injuries came and the 2-teams-in-1 we had in the 1st 20 games lost 8/9 in a row. Luke insist in gaving the 11,12,13,14 roster players starting temporary spots so he can mantain the 2nd unit.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:54 pm    Post subject:

We need shooters and playmakers; Ennis does both. He's also the right age - he can grow with the young core. I hope FO knows what they're doing.
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lakerican wrote:
oldschool32 wrote:
mhan00 wrote:
Dilla_ wrote:
Ennis was 39% from three during his time with the Lakers will he be able to keep that up next year if he resgisn?


Probably not, but he's worth another flyer. We can't sign him for a lot, so a two or more year contract with a team option would be ideal.


A small 2 year contract with a 2nd year team option would be ideal.


I will give him a 3 year /10m deal with a mutual 3rd year option. He showed he can run the offense in a similar way the starting unit runs it. That exactly was our problem this year when the injuries came and the 2-teams-in-1 we had in the 1st 20 games lost 8/9 in a row. Luke insist in gaving the 11,12,13,14 roster players starting temporary spots so he can mantain the 2nd unit.


You can't give him that contract.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:43 am    Post subject:

Omar Little wrote:
lakerican wrote:
oldschool32 wrote:
mhan00 wrote:
Dilla_ wrote:
Ennis was 39% from three during his time with the Lakers will he be able to keep that up next year if he resgisn?


Probably not, but he's worth another flyer. We can't sign him for a lot, so a two or more year contract with a team option would be ideal.


A small 2 year contract with a 2nd year team option would be ideal.


I will give him a 3 year /10m deal with a mutual 3rd year option. He showed he can run the offense in a similar way the starting unit runs it. That exactly was our problem this year when the injuries came and the 2-teams-in-1 we had in the 1st 20 games lost 8/9 in a row. Luke insist in gaving the 11,12,13,14 roster players starting temporary spots so he can mantain the 2nd unit.


You can't give him that contract.
Why is that, Omar?
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lakerican wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
lakerican wrote:
oldschool32 wrote:
mhan00 wrote:
Dilla_ wrote:
Ennis was 39% from three during his time with the Lakers will he be able to keep that up next year if he resgisn?


Probably not, but he's worth another flyer. We can't sign him for a lot, so a two or more year contract with a team option would be ideal.


A small 2 year contract with a 2nd year team option would be ideal.


I will give him a 3 year /10m deal with a mutual 3rd year option. He showed he can run the offense in a similar way the starting unit runs it. That exactly was our problem this year when the injuries came and the 2-teams-in-1 we had in the 1st 20 games lost 8/9 in a row. Luke insist in gaving the 11,12,13,14 roster players starting temporary spots so he can mantain the 2nd unit.


You can't give him that contract.
Why is that, Omar?


It has to be either a team or player option afaik.

Also, it's too small of a sample size to commit multiple years to him. He's been fairly underwhelming before this.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 6:14 am    Post subject:

lakerican wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
lakerican wrote:
oldschool32 wrote:
mhan00 wrote:
Dilla_ wrote:
Ennis was 39% from three during his time with the Lakers will he be able to keep that up next year if he resgisn?


Probably not, but he's worth another flyer. We can't sign him for a lot, so a two or more year contract with a team option would be ideal.


A small 2 year contract with a 2nd year team option would be ideal.


I will give him a 3 year /10m deal with a mutual 3rd year option. He showed he can run the offense in a similar way the starting unit runs it. That exactly was our problem this year when the injuries came and the 2-teams-in-1 we had in the 1st 20 games lost 8/9 in a row. Luke insist in gaving the 11,12,13,14 roster players starting temporary spots so he can mantain the 2nd unit.


You can't give him that contract.
Why is that, Omar?


Due to a CBA peculiarity the Lakers are capped at 2.6m as the most they can offer. Other teams can offer more. It had to do with the Rox declining an option on him.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:43 am    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
lakerican wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
lakerican wrote:
oldschool32 wrote:
mhan00 wrote:
Dilla_ wrote:
Ennis was 39% from three during his time with the Lakers will he be able to keep that up next year if he resgisn?


Probably not, but he's worth another flyer. We can't sign him for a lot, so a two or more year contract with a team option would be ideal.


A small 2 year contract with a 2nd year team option would be ideal.


I will give him a 3 year /10m deal with a mutual 3rd year option. He showed he can run the offense in a similar way the starting unit runs it. That exactly was our problem this year when the injuries came and the 2-teams-in-1 we had in the 1st 20 games lost 8/9 in a row. Luke insist in gaving the 11,12,13,14 roster players starting temporary spots so he can mantain the 2nd unit.


You can't give him that contract.
Why is that, Omar?


Due to a CBA peculiarity the Lakers are capped at 2.6m as the most they can offer. Other teams can offer more. It had to do with the Rox declining an option on him.


Correct. This is to keep teams from declining to pay one of the rookie scale years in order to pay a young guy more sooner. And it carries through in the trade.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:17 am    Post subject:

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