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Don Draper
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 Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:19 pm Post subject: Bron Ball Candidates |
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It’s clear to me that the acquisition of Reggie Bullock marks the end of Rob and Magic’s plan to replace Bron Ball with their nebulous “too many playmakers to stop” philosophy.
What makes somebody a Bron Ball candidate?
To me, the best Bron Ball candidates have the following attributes:
- Good 3 point shooting
- Decent defending
- Willing to defer/ fall in line behind LeBron
Secondary Bron Ball candidates can also have this attribute:
- An ability to create their own offense. Not in the level of a Kyrie, but at least something to take the focus off LeBron on some possessions
All that said, what are some good Bron Ball candidates on the market? Any unknowns? Anbody we could get for peanuts? Any low-tier stars who may fit the mold?
Somebody that comes to mind for me is Jeremy Lin. Perhaps TJ Warren. |
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AllorNothing
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| We still only one playmaker under Magic and Pelinka. |
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drae
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In a league which increasingly emphasises the ability to shoot the 3 ball and defend, you categorize Lebron ball as having the ability to shoot the 3 and defend?
... *looks at Rockets* STOP PLAYING LEBRON BALL! |
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activeverb
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| Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:38 pm Post subject: Re: Bron Ball Candidates |
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| Don Draper wrote: | It’s clear to me that the acquisition of Reggie Bullock marks the end of Rob and Magic’s plan to replace Bron Ball with their nebulous “too many playmakers to stop” philosophy.
What makes somebody a Bron Ball candidate?
To me, the best Bron Ball candidates have the following attributes:
- Good 3 point shooting
- Decent defending
- Willing to defer/ fall in line behind LeBron
Secondary Bron Ball candidates can also have this attribute:
- An ability to create their own offense. Not in the level of a Kyrie, but at least something to take the focus off LeBron on some possessions
All that said, what are some good Bron Ball candidates on the market? Any unknowns? Anbody we could get for peanuts? Any low-tier stars who may fit the mold?
Somebody that comes to mind for me is Jeremy Lin. Perhaps TJ Warren. |
What team in the league doesn't want 3-and-d guys?
And virtually every player in the league is going to defer to a superstar. |
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alleyoop
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| Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Lin would be a nice get, but KCP won't want to go to Atlanta, sadly. We could get him in July, though |
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Don Draper
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| Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:02 pm Post subject: Re: Bron Ball Candidates |
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| activeverb wrote: | | Don Draper wrote: | It’s clear to me that the acquisition of Reggie Bullock marks the end of Rob and Magic’s plan to replace Bron Ball with their nebulous “too many playmakers to stop” philosophy.
What makes somebody a Bron Ball candidate?
To me, the best Bron Ball candidates have the following attributes:
- Good 3 point shooting
- Decent defending
- Willing to defer/ fall in line behind LeBron
Secondary Bron Ball candidates can also have this attribute:
- An ability to create their own offense. Not in the level of a Kyrie, but at least something to take the focus off LeBron on some possessions
All that said, what are some good Bron Ball candidates on the market? Any unknowns? Anbody we could get for peanuts? Any low-tier stars who may fit the mold?
Somebody that comes to mind for me is Jeremy Lin. Perhaps TJ Warren. |
What team in the league doesn't want 3-and-d guys?
And virtually every player in the league is going to defer to a superstar. |
Activeverb. Always snarky. Can’t remember a single time you’ve responded positively to my posts. Few people make me want to avoid LG, but sometimes the negativity leveled at simple questions/topics here is unbearable.
Anyways, if you want to take away the “Bron Ball” moniker, then yes, these are 3D guys who you think will mesh well with LeBron, or guys who could become 3D players and mesh well with LeBron. I’m asking because I personally am not sure about who might be available.
Also, think you are wrong on your second point; deferring requires you to put your ego aside, which some guys, even less talented ones, aren’t willing to do. Also, some just aren’t smart enough to defer properly. |
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YSong
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| Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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TJ Warren!
Dolla Dame! |
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activeverb
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| Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:38 pm Post subject: Re: Bron Ball Candidates |
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| Don Draper wrote: | | activeverb wrote: | | Don Draper wrote: | It’s clear to me that the acquisition of Reggie Bullock marks the end of Rob and Magic’s plan to replace Bron Ball with their nebulous “too many playmakers to stop” philosophy.
What makes somebody a Bron Ball candidate?
To me, the best Bron Ball candidates have the following attributes:
- Good 3 point shooting
- Decent defending
- Willing to defer/ fall in line behind LeBron
Secondary Bron Ball candidates can also have this attribute:
- An ability to create their own offense. Not in the level of a Kyrie, but at least something to take the focus off LeBron on some possessions
All that said, what are some good Bron Ball candidates on the market? Any unknowns? Anbody we could get for peanuts? Any low-tier stars who may fit the mold?
Somebody that comes to mind for me is Jeremy Lin. Perhaps TJ Warren. |
What team in the league doesn't want 3-and-d guys?
And virtually every player in the league is going to defer to a superstar. |
Activeverb. Always snarky. Can’t remember a single time you’ve responded positively to my posts. Few people make me want to avoid LG, but sometimes the negativity leveled at simple questions/topics here is unbearable.
Anyways, if you want to take away the “Bron Ball” moniker, then yes, these are 3D guys who you think will mesh well with LeBron, or guys who could become 3D players and mesh well with LeBron. I’m asking because I personally am not sure about who might be available.
Also, think you are wrong on your second point; deferring requires you to put your ego aside, which some guys, even less talented ones, aren’t willing to do. Also, some just aren’t smart enough to defer properly. |
I have no idea why my response pushed your buttons. But they're your buttons, and I don't feel responsible for them.
I can be snarky, but I think snarky is fun, so I don't apologize for that either,
On your third point, I think virtually any 3-and-d guy in the league who wasn't a star would be happy to defer to Lebron. Because you're taking about the Danny Greens, and Trevor Arizas. They know they're place. |
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AirKobe8
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The plan to build around LeBron is pretty much common sense 15 years in:
LeBron + Second scoring star + Rebounding big + two shooters.
Everyone must be a good enough defender and the bench must contain veterans, rebounders and more shooters + one playmaker.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:18 am Post subject: |
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| AirKobe8 wrote: | The plan to build around LeBron is pretty much common sense 15 years in:
LeBron + Second scoring star + Rebounding big + two shooters.
Everyone must be a good enough defender and the bench must contain veterans, rebounders and more shooters + one playmaker. |
Don't know what Luke was thinking about being a run and gun team with 34yrs old Lebron. Bron ball has always been about controlling the game with his tempo. Roster was poorly constructed from the get go. |
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AirKobe8
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| miggz23 wrote: | | AirKobe8 wrote: | The plan to build around LeBron is pretty much common sense 15 years in:
LeBron + Second scoring star + Rebounding big + two shooters.
Everyone must be a good enough defender and the bench must contain veterans, rebounders and more shooters + one playmaker. |
Don't know what Luke was thinking about being a run and gun team with 34yrs old Lebron. Bron ball has always been about controlling the game with his tempo. Roster was poorly constructed from the get go. |
Yes, LeBron has never been a run and gun type.
We also had the silly "LeBron will play Center" BS when the season begun.
But mostly I blame the FO with this ridiculous signings than Luke.
It wasn't that difficult. Yes, you can still sign McGee, but keep Brook Lopez too. He's the perfect big to play with guys like LeBron (and Ingram, who really misses him).
Yes, sign Rondo, but don't sign Lance and Beasley. We could've gotten guys like Wayne Ellington or Shabazz Napier for example.
Also, what's the point with signing Isaac Bonga to a 3 year deal? Dude is raw AF, give him a two way and put him in the G-League.
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miggz23
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:42 am Post subject: |
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| AirKobe8 wrote: | | miggz23 wrote: | | AirKobe8 wrote: | The plan to build around LeBron is pretty much common sense 15 years in:
LeBron + Second scoring star + Rebounding big + two shooters.
Everyone must be a good enough defender and the bench must contain veterans, rebounders and more shooters + one playmaker. |
Don't know what Luke was thinking about being a run and gun team with 34yrs old Lebron. Bron ball has always been about controlling the game with his tempo. Roster was poorly constructed from the get go. |
Yes, LeBron has never been a run and gun type.
We also had the silly "LeBron will play Center" BS when the season begun.
But mostly I blame the FO with this ridiculous signings than Luke.
It wasn't that difficult. Yes, you can still sign McGee, but keep Brook Lopez too. He's the perfect big to play with guys like LeBron (and Ingram, who really misses him).
Yes, sign Rondo, but don't sign Lance and Beasley. We could've gotten guys like Wayne Ellington or Shabazz Napier for example.
Also, what's the point with signing Isaac Bonga to a 3 year deal? Dude is raw AF, give him a two way and put him in the G-League. |
Yea I was really surprise when they didn't keep Lopez. Then turned around and signed Rondo and Stephenson. |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:35 am Post subject: |
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| AirKobe8 wrote: | | miggz23 wrote: | | AirKobe8 wrote: | The plan to build around LeBron is pretty much common sense 15 years in:
LeBron + Second scoring star + Rebounding big + two shooters.
Everyone must be a good enough defender and the bench must contain veterans, rebounders and more shooters + one playmaker. |
Don't know what Luke was thinking about being a run and gun team with 34yrs old Lebron. Bron ball has always been about controlling the game with his tempo. Roster was poorly constructed from the get go. |
Yes, LeBron has never been a run and gun type.
We also had the silly "LeBron will play Center" BS when the season begun.
But mostly I blame the FO with this ridiculous signings than Luke.
It wasn't that difficult. Yes, you can still sign McGee, but keep Brook Lopez too. He's the perfect big to play with guys like LeBron (and Ingram, who really misses him).
Yes, sign Rondo, but don't sign Lance and Beasley. We could've gotten guys like Wayne Ellington or Shabazz Napier for example.
Also, what's the point with signing Isaac Bonga to a 3 year deal? Dude is raw AF, give him a two way and put him in the G-League. |
I guess you can't sign a drafted player as a 2-way, unless you waive him first.
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Bron Ball candidates??!! je,je
Over the hill,almost out of the league veterans.
Melo
JMeeks
NYoung
JTerry
JRSmith
WMathews
Monta
JJack
Spot the corner 3, Brick the Shot & after the game go to LG to laugh out loud all the rants.  |
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miggz23
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| lakerican wrote: | Bron Ball candidates??!! je,je
Over the hill,almost out of the league veterans.
Melo
JMeeks
NYoung
JTerry
JRSmith
WMathews
Monta
JJack
Spot the corner 3, Brick the Shot & after the game go to LG to laugh out loud all the rants. |
Would really love Matthews... With Bullock... They will be taking away time from Hart and Lance. |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:29 am Post subject: |
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| miggz23 wrote: | | AirKobe8 wrote: | The plan to build around LeBron is pretty much common sense 15 years in:
LeBron + Second scoring star + Rebounding big + two shooters.
Everyone must be a good enough defender and the bench must contain veterans, rebounders and more shooters + one playmaker. |
Don't know what Luke was thinking about being a run and gun team with 34yrs old Lebron. Bron ball has always been about controlling the game with his tempo. Roster was poorly constructed from the get go. |
Walton was thinking they had the makings of a fast paced unselfish team on offense and a hard working multi position team on defense. Depth and effort combined with the patience to allow 20 year olds to become professionals and a couple key free agent additions.
Walton had them trending in the right direction. Then the FO signed James and all must defer. Players coaches and FO alike. |
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TrueBlueLakers
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| It's funny when people rave about our young talent and coach, but forget that we won only 35 games last year. There is nothing great or exciting about that. We needed LeBron to come and we also need at least another big game player in order to compete for a championship. LeBron with our young people will never be enough to defeat the GSW. |
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| TrueBlueLakers wrote: | | It's funny when people rave about our young talent and coach, but forget that we won only 35 games last year. There is nothing great or exciting about that. We needed LeBron to come and we also need at least another big game player in order to compete for a championship. LeBron with our young people will never be enough to defeat the GSW. |
Not forgetting it, just acknowledging that it was trending in the right direction. With smart additions and continued development you have a solid deep team gaining traction in the standings. This season had promise of improvement instead of the disappointing chaos we are seeing now.
Considering the disinterest and lack of any team chemistry we saw against Indy are you so sure they win 35 games this season with James? |
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