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Definitely a big sigh of relief that Jim Buss will no longer taint the Lakers name. Good riddance.
Here's to finally moving on from years of mismanagement. |
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Johnny is still a trustee, and from what I have read, he is the one that is a little "off" |
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_________________ A banana is killed every time a terrible thread or post is made. Save the bananas. Stop creating terrible posts! |
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OK Phil, time to come home. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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why would anyone want Phil after the mess he created in NY |
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NO PHIL. NO PHIL. |
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jodeke Retired Number
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pmacla wrote: | why would anyone want Phil after the mess he created in NY |
If this is referring to my post. LINK _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
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jodeke wrote: | pmacla wrote: | why would anyone want Phil after the mess he created in NY |
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pmacla Star Player
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so in essence what does all this mean for the Lakers ? |
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It means any setbacks from now on will fall clearly on Jeanie's head.
Conversely, any benefits will be hers to reap.
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pmacla wrote: | so in essence what does all this mean for the Lakers ? |
Basketball decisions will be made by basketball minds. I wish Mitch were still here. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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Good result, however achieved. While I'm not a fan of Jeanie, a divided house is worse than either. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel |
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jodeke wrote: | pmacla wrote: | so in essence what does all this mean for the Lakers ? |
Basketball decisions will be made by basketball minds. I wish Mitch were still here. |
If only I felt this was true.
I continue to have the sinking feeling that Magic and Jeanie are just clearing the way for the impatient "blockbuster move" they have in mind for the Lakers this summer. No matter the cost.
Hope they prove me wrong and I am concerned for no reason. I just see a business/ marketing move of bringing in an All-Star to build around will be the highest priority. |
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Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | jodeke wrote: | pmacla wrote: | so in essence what does all this mean for the Lakers ? |
Basketball decisions will be made by basketball minds. I wish Mitch were still here. |
If only I felt this was true.
I continue to have the sinking feeling that Magic and Jeanie are just clearing the way for the impatient "blockbuster move" they have in mind for the Lakers this summer. No matter the cost.
Hope they prove me wrong and I am concerned for no reason. I just see a business/ marketing move of bringing in an All-Star to build around will be the highest priority. |
Its funny you said that because I had that feeling with Mitch/Jim, considering they even tried to trade Ingram and DLO for Cousins.
But exact opposite feeling with Magic/Jeanie. _________________ Darvin Scam: https://media.tenor.com/images/3c15249955860a4b16b59e8ae035fb75/tenor.gif |
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Its funny you said that because I had that feeling with Mitch/Jim, considering they even tried to trade Ingram and DLO for Cousins.
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If they had actually tried that, Cousins would be playing for the Lakers. |
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jodeke wrote: | pmacla wrote: | so in essence what does all this mean for the Lakers ? |
Basketball decisions will be made by basketball minds. I wish Mitch were still here. |
This is going to bear close watching to see how the dynamics change. According to Mitch and Jim, and with no substantive evidence from anyone to the contrary, Jim had veto power but never used it, and that meant that Mitch ultimately made the calls either on his own or with Jim's agreement. How much of a collaborative team they were is unknown.
This is going to matter at the draft, since it was mitch and Mitch alone who sifted through the staff analysis and made the picks. There was possibly a lot of consensus on picks, but you gotta think the farther down the draft, the more divergence, and so they are going to have to replace mitch's mastery there. Neither Magic nor Pelinka strikes me as that guy, yet one or both are going to ultimately have to decide, no matter how collaborative they make the process. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel |
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Megaton wrote: | Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | jodeke wrote: | pmacla wrote: | so in essence what does all this mean for the Lakers ? |
Basketball decisions will be made by basketball minds. I wish Mitch were still here. |
If only I felt this was true.
I continue to have the sinking feeling that Magic and Jeanie are just clearing the way for the impatient "blockbuster move" they have in mind for the Lakers this summer. No matter the cost.
Hope they prove me wrong and I am concerned for no reason. I just see a business/ marketing move of bringing in an All-Star to build around will be the highest priority. |
Its funny you said that because I had that feeling with Mitch/Jim, considering they even tried to trade Ingram and DLO for Cousins.
But exact opposite feeling with Magic/Jeanie. |
I don't believe that was something Mitch wanted to do. I think that was Jim's decision and Mitch had little to do except go along. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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Megaton wrote: | Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | jodeke wrote: | pmacla wrote: | so in essence what does all this mean for the Lakers ? |
Basketball decisions will be made by basketball minds. I wish Mitch were still here. |
If only I felt this was true.
I continue to have the sinking feeling that Magic and Jeanie are just clearing the way for the impatient "blockbuster move" they have in mind for the Lakers this summer. No matter the cost.
Hope they prove me wrong and I am concerned for no reason. I just see a business/ marketing move of bringing in an All-Star to build around will be the highest priority. |
Its funny you said that because I had that feeling with Mitch/Jim, considering they even tried to trade Ingram and DLO for Cousins.
But exact opposite feeling with Magic/Jeanie. |
I guess we all have our own interpretations and concerns.
Whether we agree with the strategy or not Kupchak and Buss have acquired assets with the bottom dwelling. Now the Lakers are at that fork in the road of decision making. Continue on that path and develop the young core or start making trades with those players for marquee names to market. One is a basketball decision, the other a business decision if done impatiently. Not sure I trust Magic and Jeanie to be patient.
I have seen the rumored trade scenario too. But it was unsubstantiated. If true, why wouldn't the Kings take that over the Heild package? I have my doubts that was the package. Maybe one and fillers, but both?
All I know is I am so thrilled the Lakers did not make that trade. I want nothing to do with Cousins. |
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jodeke wrote: | Megaton wrote: | Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | jodeke wrote: | pmacla wrote: | so in essence what does all this mean for the Lakers ? |
Basketball decisions will be made by basketball minds. I wish Mitch were still here. |
If only I felt this was true.
I continue to have the sinking feeling that Magic and Jeanie are just clearing the way for the impatient "blockbuster move" they have in mind for the Lakers this summer. No matter the cost.
Hope they prove me wrong and I am concerned for no reason. I just see a business/ marketing move of bringing in an All-Star to build around will be the highest priority. |
Its funny you said that because I had that feeling with Mitch/Jim, considering they even tried to trade Ingram and DLO for Cousins.
But exact opposite feeling with Magic/Jeanie. |
I don't believe that was something Mitch wanted to do. I think that was Jim's decision and Mitch had little to do except go along. |
The fact it was even considered showed complete ineptitude regardless.
I just find it funny how Magic/Pelinka make the movesame that show tanking/rebuilding (trading Lou Will for a pick, tried trading Young) and moves Mitch/Jim that showed the opposite (signing old Mozgov/Deng to terrible contracts and almost butchered the young core for a locker room cancer), yet some here are more worried about Magic being the impatient one. _________________ Darvin Scam: https://media.tenor.com/images/3c15249955860a4b16b59e8ae035fb75/tenor.gif |
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jodeke wrote: | Megaton wrote: | Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | jodeke wrote: | pmacla wrote: | so in essence what does all this mean for the Lakers ? |
Basketball decisions will be made by basketball minds. I wish Mitch were still here. |
If only I felt this was true.
I continue to have the sinking feeling that Magic and Jeanie are just clearing the way for the impatient "blockbuster move" they have in mind for the Lakers this summer. No matter the cost.
Hope they prove me wrong and I am concerned for no reason. I just see a business/ marketing move of bringing in an All-Star to build around will be the highest priority. |
Its funny you said that because I had that feeling with Mitch/Jim, considering they even tried to trade Ingram and DLO for Cousins.
But exact opposite feeling with Magic/Jeanie. |
I don't believe that was something Mitch wanted to do. I think that was Jim's decision and Mitch had little to do except go along. |
That was my understanding from everything I've read as well. On another note, the poster above noted how it was Mitch who made the final decision as far as the draft pick after factoring in the feedback from the scouting staff.
I sure hope our new management does the same because the draft is the one area we've flourished despite our record. |
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Megaton wrote: | jodeke wrote: | Megaton wrote: | Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | jodeke wrote: | pmacla wrote: | so in essence what does all this mean for the Lakers ? |
Basketball decisions will be made by basketball minds. I wish Mitch were still here. |
If only I felt this was true.
I continue to have the sinking feeling that Magic and Jeanie are just clearing the way for the impatient "blockbuster move" they have in mind for the Lakers this summer. No matter the cost.
Hope they prove me wrong and I am concerned for no reason. I just see a business/ marketing move of bringing in an All-Star to build around will be the highest priority. |
Its funny you said that because I had that feeling with Mitch/Jim, considering they even tried to trade Ingram and DLO for Cousins.
But exact opposite feeling with Magic/Jeanie. |
I don't believe that was something Mitch wanted to do. I think that was Jim's decision and Mitch had little to do except go along. |
The fact it was even considered showed complete ineptitude regardless.
I just find it funny how Magic/Pelinka make the movesame that show tanking/rebuilding (trading Lou Will for a pick, tried trading Young) and moves Mitch/Jim that showed the opposite (signing old Mozgov/Deng to terrible contracts and almost butchered the young core for a locker room cancer), yet some here are more worried about Magic being the impatient one. |
Why do you believe that story? It had been reported earlier that the Lakers turned down the trade because the Kings wanted Ingram. It was reported last year that the Lakers turned down a Cousins trade with the Kings because the Kings wanted DLO. Who knows with certainty what's true, but one thing is clearly true: The Kings wouldn't have turned down DLO and Ingram and settled for Buddy Hield. |
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Megaton wrote: | jodeke wrote: | Megaton wrote: | Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | jodeke wrote: | pmacla wrote: | so in essence what does all this mean for the Lakers ? |
Basketball decisions will be made by basketball minds. I wish Mitch were still here. |
If only I felt this was true.
I continue to have the sinking feeling that Magic and Jeanie are just clearing the way for the impatient "blockbuster move" they have in mind for the Lakers this summer. No matter the cost.
Hope they prove me wrong and I am concerned for no reason. I just see a business/ marketing move of bringing in an All-Star to build around will be the highest priority. |
Its funny you said that because I had that feeling with Mitch/Jim, considering they even tried to trade Ingram and DLO for Cousins.
But exact opposite feeling with Magic/Jeanie. |
I don't believe that was something Mitch wanted to do. I think that was Jim's decision and Mitch had little to do except go along. |
The fact it was even considered showed complete ineptitude regardless.
I just find it funny how Magic/Pelinka make the movesame that show tanking/rebuilding (trading Lou Will for a pick, tried trading Young) and moves Mitch/Jim that showed the opposite (signing old Mozgov/Deng to terrible contracts and almost butchered the young core for a locker room cancer), yet some here are more worried about Magic being the impatient one. |
that narrative never made sense to me.
-Jeanie and magic wanted cousins (trade youth for proven superstar) and are impatient for a big name to join.
-Jeanie/magic never informed.
-Jim wanted to trade our youth but the trade never got done.
IMHO everyone's up for trade but the won't package dlo/ingram together for a single player. But either can be packaged with anyone. Jim/Mitch failed to sell that (for no apparent reason considering the resulting trade) and they are just claiming ignorance of the whole thing to get the roster on their side.
So back to the start where they want 2 out of dlo/ingram/star where the star is priority of the three. I hope the second part is they'll give the entire roster if we can keep randle. _________________ KOBE!!! |
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