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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 7:27 am    Post subject: 32 games left, predict record with 19/32 at home

Not a Lakers fan but Lakers are truly sitting pretty good even at 25 "all" due to fact have home heavy schedule ahead. (Reverse of last year)

Despite some tough losses lately and barring an injury to Kobe see them winning 19-22 of the remaining 32 with any kinid of decent play by the rest of the team.

Go with 20/32 for 45 and 37 should get them into the playoffs but getting to 46 wins would be safer. This would take wining a little over 5 of every 8 games which the Lakers should be able to do at home - again barring major injury.

Right now locks are Spurs, Mavs, Suns, Clippers and one team - probably Denver from that sadly downtrodden divison.

Fight to the finish then between Grizz, Utah, MN, NOK, LAL and potentially Sactown who are improving with Artest. Houston has a brutal schedule and too many losses unless go on a surreal roll beginning right away.

(I am going right now with 6-8 being Memphis, LAL, and in a surprise and a great story NOK. Garnett will be very frustrated again sitting on the outside 2 years in a row.) Sactown is the darkhorse to watch out for to slip into the 8th instead of NOK or MN and would be a scary team with Artest for any first round opponent (but would probably go down in 6 or so).

Finally, the Jazz with Boozer back are deeper and not to be ruled out. Lakers ideally should try to jump to 6 as as being at 7, would avoid playing either the Spurs or Mavs but could face a tough match up against the Suns - getting to the 6th could make them much more probable threats get to the 2nd round - which would be a heck of an accoplishment.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 7:30 am    Post subject:

.500 the rest of the way. They've been really disappointing this month. .
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 7:57 am    Post subject:

I think 44,45,46 wins is realistic. I like your breakdown, although Id love a crack at Dallas in the playoffs.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:02 am    Post subject:

we really need to go 19-13 the whole way if we want 44 wins.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:06 am    Post subject:

Also as strange as it sounds the next 2 games at home against Utah and Atlanta before the break are big. Win those and were 2 over 500 going into the ASB, making two less wins on the other side we need to reach our goal
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:06 am    Post subject:

This team will finish around .500. 44 wins at the most. Could see them winning 36, 37 though. They are really playing poorly.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:14 am    Post subject:

You guys forget Phils teams always get better over time. He'll focus on certain guys to try and work on occasionally (apparently he just had a talk with Kwame and look at last night), eventually bringing the entire level of play up by the end of the season and come playoff time. I expect at least SOMEONE will become a more consistent option, and our defense will be there most nights instead of once a week. Id say 44 wins is very realistic, and Im lookin in the area of 46,47,48
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:26 am    Post subject:

Unfortunately, this roster is a .500 ball club. It may or may not be enough for the 8th seed. Utah is healthy and they’ll be tough now that they’re at full strength. Monday’s game will show if the Lakers can hold off Utah.

This is a young team. If they fall out of the 8th seed, it’ll be interesting to see how they respond. Hopefully, the wheels will not fly off like they did at the end of last season once things got tough.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:27 am    Post subject:

Lionel says we're going to make a trade that will make us better. So I'll say we get 47 wins and the 7th seed. Play Suns in the first round. I rather get the 8th seed and play dallas, but its going to be too close for comfort between SA and Dallas for that first seed.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:34 am    Post subject:

this team is hard to predict right now...we've been losing too many games considered winnable...the next 8 games or so are supposed to be winnable games. We may win then all, but then again we may lose them all...I want to believe we'll win them all, just for the sake of being optimistic. So, the Lakers go 8-0 the next 8 games...with players in question developing some balls to go with some brains.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:35 am    Post subject:

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Lionel says we're going to make a trade that will make us better. So I'll say we get 47 wins and the 7th seed. Play Suns in the first round. I rather get the 8th seed and play dallas, but its going to be too close for comfort between SA and Dallas for that first seed.


I want 6th seed and Denver...
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:35 am    Post subject:

Looking at the remaining schedule blows me away. The Lakers could easily be 10 games above 500 in the end. We should have won the Memphis game, but on record they did have a slightly better record than we did going in. The Lakers are facing 20 teams with the same or worse records from here on out.

Here is possibly the best case scenario (not at all out of the question):
2/13/06 HOME Jazz (25-25 ) WIN
2/15/06 HOME Hawks (15-33 ) WIN
2/21/06 HOME Trail Blazers (17-31 ) WIN
2/23/06 HOME Kings (22-28 ) WIN
2/24/06 AWAY Clippers (30-18 ) LOSS
2/26/06 HOME Celtics (19-31 ) WIN
2/28/06 HOME Magic (19-29 ) WIN
3/01/06 AWAY Trail Blazers (17-31 ) WIN
3/03/06 AWAY Warriors (23-27 ) LOSS
3/04/06 HOME Pistons (41-8 ) LOSS
3/06/06 HOME Spurs (39-10 ) WIN (upset - home game)
3/08/06 AWAY Hornets (14-38 ) WIN
3/10/06 AWAY Spurs (39-10 ) LOSS
3/12/06 HOME Supersonics (30-30 ) WIN
3/14/06 AWAY Kings (22-28 ) WIN
3/15/06 HOME Timberwolves (22-28 ) WIN
3/17/06 AWAY Nets (26-22 ) LOSS
3/19/06 AWAY Cavaliers (29-21 ) WIN (upset - Lebron?)
3/20/06 AWAY Celtics (19-31 ) WIN
3/22/06 HOME Kings (22-28 ) WIN
3/24/06 HOME Bucks (26-23 ) WIN (upset - home game)
3/26/06 HOME Hornets (14-38 ) WIN
3/30/06 HOME Spurs (39-10 ) LOSS (two upsets ? probably not)
3/31/06 AWAY Supersonics (30-30 ) WIN
4/02/06 HOME Rockets (20-30 ) WIN
4/06/06 AWAY Nuggets (27-25 ) WIN (upset)
4/07/06 AWAY Suns (33-17 ) LOSS
4/09/06 HOME Clippers (30-18 ) WIN (upset - home pride)
4/11/06 HOME Warriors (23-27 ) WIN
4/14/06 HOME Trail Blazers (17-31 ) WIN
4/16/06 HOME Suns (33-17 ) WIN (upset - Suns resting)
4/19/06 HOME Hornets (14-38 ) WIN

I have just 5 upset wins (above) according the the oppositions record and the reasons why I think the win is reasonable. It is in the Lakers hands have a record any where from a glittering record of 50-32 and as bad as just 45-37, definitely a post season seeding.

The fact is a 25-7 is absolutely NOT out of the question with just 5 upset wins.

For the rest of the schedule the Lakers have 20 out of 32 HOME games. Not only that, also 20 out of the 32 have records of 500 or less.

If the Lakers just simply win according the the records they would still be 20-12 for the remainder of the season, which would likely put them at no less than 6th seed and possibly 5th seed in the playoffs.

So I think that it is not a stretch by any means to conclude the Lakers will (or should) be some where around 10 games above 500 at the end of the season.

I think I can safely predict a 21-11 record, thus the Lakers finish the season with 46-36, amazingly that would be good enough for a 5th seed in the West.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:38 am    Post subject:

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Looking at the remaining schedule blows me away. The Lakers could easily be 10 games above 500 in the end. We should have won the Memphis game, but on record they did have a slightly better record than we did going in. The Lakers are facing 20 teams with the same or worse records from here on out.

Here is possibly the best case scenario (not at all out of the question):
2/13/06 HOME Jazz (25-25) WIN
2/15/06 HOME Hawks (15-33) WIN
2/21/06 HOME Trail Blazers (17-31) WIN
2/23/06 HOME Kings (22-28) WIN
2/24/06 AWAY Clippers (30-18) LOSS
2/26/06 HOME Celtics (19-31) WIN
2/28/06 HOME Magic (19-29) WIN
3/01/06 AWAY Trail Blazers (17-31) WIN
3/03/06 AWAY Warriors (23-27) LOSS
3/04/06 HOME Pistons (41-8) LOSS
3/06/06 HOME Spurs (39-10) WIN (upset - home game)
3/08/06 AWAY Hornets (14-38) WIN
3/10/06 AWAY Spurs (39-10) LOSS
3/12/06 HOME Supersonics (30-30) WIN
3/14/06 AWAY Kings (22-28) WIN
3/15/06 HOME Timberwolves (22-28) WIN
3/17/06 AWAY Nets (26-22) LOSS
3/19/06 AWAY Cavaliers (29-21) WIN (upset - Lebron?)
3/20/06 AWAY Celtics (19-31) WIN
3/22/06 HOME Kings (22-28) WIN
3/24/06 HOME Bucks (26-23) WIN (upset - home game)
3/26/06 HOME Hornets (14-38) WIN
3/30/06 HOME Spurs (39-10) LOSS (two upsets ? probably not)
3/31/06 AWAY Supersonics (30-30) WIN
4/02/06 HOME Rockets (20-30) WIN
4/06/06 AWAY Nuggets (27-25) WIN (upset)
4/07/06 AWAY Suns (33-17) LOSS
4/09/06 HOME Clippers (30-18) WIN (upset - home pride)
4/11/06 HOME Warriors (23-27) WIN
4/14/06 HOME Trail Blazers (17-31) WIN
4/16/06 HOME Suns (33-17) WIN (upset - Suns resting)
4/19/06 HOME Hornets (14-38) WIN

I have just 5 upset wins (above) according the the oppositions record and the reasons why I think the win is reasonable. It is in the Lakers hands have a record any where from a glittering record of 50-32 and as bad as just 45-37, definitely a post season seeding.

The fact is a 25-7 is absolutely NOT out of the question with just 5 upset wins.

For the rest of the schedule the Lakers have 20 out of 32 [B]HOME games. Not only that, also 20 out of the 32 have records of 500 or less
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If the Lakers just simply win according the the records they would still be 20-12 for the remainder of the season, which would likely put them at no less than 6th seed and possibly 5th seed in the playoffs.

So I think that it is not a stretch by any means to conclude the Lakers will (or should) be some where around 10 games above 500 at the end of the season.

I think I can safely predict a 21-11 record, thus the Lakers finish the season with 46-36, amazingly that would be good enough for a 5th seed in the West.


Unless we make a trade to get significant pieces, you're dreaming. This squad is good enough to do what you say. They just aren't smart enough. They don't have the discipline to close out tough, close games. They take nights off frequently, and some players are actually getting worse as the season progresses (see Luke Walton and Lamar Odom).
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:40 am    Post subject:

great job Rule, but NO not 5th seed and the Clips...6th seed and Denver is better...
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:46 am    Post subject:

I love the optimism. A .500 team is going to bust out for a 25-7 finish. I didn't know Kevin Garnett was a Laker all of a sudden.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:47 am    Post subject:

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great job Rule, but NO not 5th seed and the Clips...6th seed and Denver is better...


There is only 7 teams above 500 in the West, if the Lakers could end up 50-32 as I surmised is possible, definitely 5th seed.

Even if the Lakers just end up 20-12 they would have a record of 45-37 which should be the worst they would end up. This would be 8 games above 500. There are only 4 teams in the West that are 8 games above 500.

Makes sense to me....

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:55 am    Post subject:

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I love the optimism. A .500 team is going to bust out for a 25-7 finish. I didn't know Kevin Garnett was a Laker all of a sudden.


Where's the optomism guys...

Actually I absolutely disagree with your premise.

The Lakers are 500 as you say. They are facing 20 out of the 32 with the same or worse records. Also 20 games at home. Which is what I said in the original post.

Why shouldn't the Lakers win those games most of which are at home?

I made it clear that 25-7 is best case scenario and I would agree that a 25-7 isn't as likely.

But a record of 46-36 is very probably, imo. Instead of focusing on the extreme 25-7 I think we should be happy to say that the Lakers have an excellent chance to be 10 games above 500 in the end.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:57 am    Post subject:

19-13.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:04 am    Post subject:

My prediction at the beginning of the year was 43-39. However, after seeing this team through 50 games, we are no better than a .500 team at best. This team can't win games at the end and their defense is absolutely terrible. This team has not progressed at all, and I think that we will miss out on the playoffs. This team needs to make a trade before the deadline to improve the roster, but I don't think we will unfortunately. I must admit that I'm frustrated with this team at the present time, and I don't have too much trust in the Laker braintrust (I use that term loosely). That's just my opinion.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:08 am    Post subject:

No game is an automatic W with this team. We have alot of home games left but we don't play well at home. Philip teams always get better but this season is more than half way over and this team is still brainless. Mitchell will make a trade which should give this team a shot in the arm.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:15 am    Post subject:



that's a breath of fresh air Lionel...I hope it comes through...about time.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:29 am    Post subject:

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.500 the rest of the way. They've been really disappointing this month.


Even if the Lakers do as badly on the road as 3-9. I think you would agree that they should not be any worse than that.

The Lakers would then have to go 13-7 at home to end up 500 for the season. On the face of it that does not seem out of the question except for the teams they will face at home.

But I think that this would be a worst case scenario (same as the 3-9 record on the road).

HOME GAMES worst case scenario (considering the Lakers are NOT a losing team):
2/13/06 Jazz (25-25 ) lose
2/15/06 Hawks (15-33 ) WIN
2/21/06 Trail Blazers (17-31 ) WIN
2/23/06 Kings (22-28 ) WIN
2/26/06 Celtics (19-31 ) WIN
2/28/06 Magic (19-29 ) WIN
3/04/06 Pistons (41-8 ) lose
3/06/06 Spurs (39-10 ) lose
3/12/06 Supersonics (30-30 ) lose
3/15/06 Timberwolves (22-28 ) WIN
3/22/06 Kings (22-28 ) WIN
3/24/06 Bucks (26-23 ) WIN
3/26/06 Hornets (14-38 ) WIN
3/30/06 Spurs (39-10 ) lose
4/02/06 Rockets (20-30 ) WIN
4/09/06 Clippers (30-18 ) lose
4/11/06 Warriors (23-27 ) WIN
4/14/06 Trail Blazers (17-31 ) WIN
4/16/06 Suns (33-17 ) lose
4/19/06 Hornets (14-38 ) WIN

I just don't think in terms of WORST CASE scenario as far as the Lakers ending the season.

Thus I am much more optomistic than an expectation of a 500 record in the end.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:42 am    Post subject:

Oops, I just noticed I had 6 upsets instead of 5, maybe a little to optimistic.

So I'll give into all of you "realists" a bit and correct my scenarios to:

"A record any where from a glittering record of 49-33 and as bad as just 44-38... (one less win). But I still say good enough for between 5th or 6th seed as compared to the current records in the West.

Thus I will revise my prediction down one game, but will stand by this:

I (still) think I can (safely) predict a 20-12 record, thus the Lakers finish the season with 45-37, amazingly that would (maybe) be good enough for a 5th seed in the West (admitedly more likely 6th seed or 7th seed for sure).

Of course I'm the one that predicted over 50 wins last year. :roll:

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:46 am    Post subject:

16-16, this team is not very good and even if we get into the playoffs its most definately a 1st round exit. I sure hope there is some sort of plan to get talent in here,. IMO if the main goal of this team is to just reach the playoffs (as stated by mitch and co) they should lower ticket prices. Give us a break until 2007 as well
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 10:06 am    Post subject:

I don't know about wins, but I predict 6th spot for Lakers
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